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Sharron1

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Just learnt that I have Type 2 Diabetes, no real surprise as I both parents were also Type 2. Just wanted to talk to other people in a similar situation. To add to my cup of happiness I also have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome but hopefully that should be sorted in the next few weeks. Summer 2018 has been a torrid time...
 
Welcome to the forum.

Yes, despite what mass-media often portrays, Type 2 can often have a significant genetic component which is beyond your control. Do you have any diabetic grandparents?
 
No as far as I know only my parents - so it was really a given that I would end up with it. Can anyone also help me with the food issue, what on earth can I eat at lunchtime? I have managed to work out breakfast and supper from the various websites etc. Lunch is a bit of an issue. I usually have a piece of wholemeal bread toasted, two or three plain oat cakes and loads of salad. That fills me up for a while. Also a bit of plain cottage cheese. I think for the moment that is ok. i see the Diabetic Dr next week for 15 minutes! Need to get all my questions sorted out.
 
OK, the only reason I asked is if you have lots of family history, sometimes it turns out that it's a different form of diabetes called MODY...

For food, generally it's the carbohydrates that send your blood glucose high. You find those in bread, potatoes, rice, etc as well as the usual sugary suspects. I personally try to load my lunch with some form of protein (chicken, ham, beef, eggs, fish, etc) lots of salad and some cheese or nuts. I'm tending to avoid bread, but many find that low carb bread (such as Burgen) works ok for them. Standard wholemeal can be as carbohydrate laden as white bread!

Ultimately, it's easiest to figure what works for you by self-testing. I'm sure someone will be along soon with the appropriate links 🙂
 
Ta, all new for me. Need to get use to it! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 
Hi Sharron and welcome. Take a look at the links at the top of the newbies section and have a good read of the posts in the food section for ideas. The more you read, the clearer things will become! I’m 7 years down the line and still learning! This is a great forum full of support and ideas. Great to have you on board🙂 Katie
 
Protein is far better at keeping you 'full' for far longer than carbohydrates will, but keep the salad with it. For that one slice of bread you could have very nearly 3 Ryvitas instead - I can never manage 3 of them though anyway.
 
Hi,

Yet another question - probably made worse because it is a Sunday... all that thinking time! I have yet to see the dr so am trying out stuff on my own. Not sure about carbs etc, so what I have done after lots of reading the web etc, is had breakfast, whenI
 
Sorry about earlier half composed question PC froze never to move again! My question was while I have no idea about carbs. I had breakfast and later on when I felt a bit peckish I had a slice of wholemeal toast which seemed to do the job. I made lunch (wholegrain spaghetti, tuna and salad) and if I want something else later on I thought half a banana would sort out the problem. Most of this is guess work, any ideas. I am also incorporating portions of lentils and beans in the main meals. Must try out couscous...
 
Hi @Sharron1 you need to get yourself a carbs & calorie checker either in printed form or electronic form I personally use Nutracheck which you can get free for a week or so, download on iOS or Android, this lets you keep a food diary and also gives calorific values of each and any food you eat.
Your Lunch as described is still a bit heavy with carbs, was it a normal slice of wholemeal as they still carb heavy, wheat pasta is carb heavy too, bananas on top of that is adding more carbs.
Lentils and beans are also carb high so you really need one of these checkers so you can sort out what are high carb foods and which are not...
Cous Cous is wheat again and carb rich..
 
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There is an alternative to wheat pasta can be bought in Aldi described as Soy Bean Spaghetti, or in Tesco described as Soy Bean Noodles, has under 7g carbs per 50g product to wheat pastas 35g carbs per 50g product...
 
Martin9 said:
There is an alternative to wheat pasta can be bought in Aldi described as Soy Bean Spaghetti, or in Tesco described as Soy Bean Noodles, has under 7g carbs per 50g product to wheat pastas 35g carbs per 50g product...
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Many,many thanks. What a minefield this is, no wonder most of the questions revolve around food intake. I do appreciate your advice. I am sure I will have loads more to ask...
 
Many problems are caused by the concept of cheap to produce foods - usually high in carbs and similar to the foods used to fatten up farmyard animals. We are told that they are healthy.
As a type two I avoid bread pasta pizza, breakfast cereals, oats, rice, beans and most legumes, potatoes and other high carb vegetables and high carb fruits such as bananas.
By doing that I can keep my BG levels normal and don't need any medication - which can leave some people feeling very ill. I was suicidal after 5 weeks on Metformin and a statin.
Dropping your blood glucose can help with carpel tunnel - I know a lot of musicians and they can avoid problems which can cause them loss of income by watching what they eat and how it affects blood glucose.
 
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Many problems are caused by the concept of cheap to produce foods - usually high in carbs and similar to the foods used to fatten up farmyard animals. We are told that they are healthy.
As a type two I avoid bread pasta pizza, breakfast cereals, oats, rice, beans and most legumes, potatoes and other high carb vegetables and high carb fruits such as bananas.
By doing that I can keep my BG levels normal and don't need any medication - which can leave some people feeling very ill. I was suicidal after 5 weeks on Metformin and a statin.
Dropping your blood glucose can help with carpel tunnel - I know a lot of musicians and they can avoid problems which can cause them loss of income by watching what they eat and how it affects blood glucose.
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Interesting , is carpal tunnel linked to diabetes..?.
 
Martin9 said:
Interesting , is carpal tunnel linked to diabetes..?.
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Who knows, in fact there is very little known about CT but loads of people have it. Not too comforting to me but hey.
 
When I have discussed it with carpel tunnel sufferers I have had several look rather thoughtful and decide to go to see their doctor for bloodtests - the symptoms of type 2 seem familiar, and the equator rather than waistline seems to feature too. I do suspect that there is a link.
If the fluid in the eyes becomes highly sugary, the fluid which exists between the tendon and sheath could be similarly changed - I have noticed that the pains in my knee joints which had troubled me for a long time have now reduced to almost nothing. It was put down to my weight, my cycling, dancing etc - but sugar crystals are now high on my list of suspects.
 
Drummer said:
Many problems are caused by the concept of cheap to produce foods - usually high in carbs and similar to the foods used to fatten up farmyard animals. We are told that they are healthy.
As a type two I avoid bread pasta pizza, breakfast cereals, oats, rice, beans and most legumes, potatoes and other high carb vegetables and high carb fruits such as bananas.
By doing that I can keep my BG levels normal and don't need any medication - which can leave some people feeling very ill. I was suicidal after 5 weeks on Metformin and a statin.
Dropping your blood glucose can help with carpel tunnel - I know a lot of musicians and they can avoid problems which can cause them loss of income by watching what they eat and how it affects blood glucose.
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Hi, thanks for this - am fascinated to know what do you actually eat? While I understand the carbs thing surely it is about portion size and counting the carbs?
 
It's an interesting discussiion about CTS, but
Sharron1 said:
Hi, thanks for this - am fascinated to know what do you actually eat? While I understand the carbs thing surely it is about portion size and counting the carbs?
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ok meats , fish, cheese are good so have a chicken salad, have bacon & eggfor brekkie, if you do need carbs find very low carb bread, it's a totally different diet to what has been said to be healthy before, try get your head around itxx
 
The basic foods are any meat or fish, shellfish, eggs or cheese - and a limit of 10 percent carbs on what I add to them - so foods which are less than that I can eat quite freely as it is difficult to over eat. I also only eat twice a day, early and late - that makes going out for the day very simple as I don't need to worry about packing foods or finding them when out. A fast breakfast is scrambled eggs with grated cheese added when almost cooked, then thinly sliced tomato on top, I put the plate over the top of the mini wok I cook it in, and the tomato is just lightly warmed up - I do mushroom omelettes too, sausages with a high meat content, a mushroom sweet pepper and courgette stirfry - sometimes cooked meat from the dinner the evening before, or maybe a tuna salad, or eggs and cheese in a salad.
For dinner there are so many choices - I do cauliflower quite a lot, but also aubergine, celeriac, courgette, some already prepared stirfry stuff is low enough, it is just a matter of going through all the veges you can think of and checking the carb content. For dessert I usually have frozen berries and cream, but I do need to be firm about using a small bowl.
I have just - almost 2 years after diagnosis, begun to experiment with making bread adding in low carb fillers as normal bread is just so high carb. I would advise getting normal blood glucose levels and Hba1c before trying anything high carb, particularly if you need to lose weight as well.
When checking the carb content do take into account that the US sites include the fibre in the carb count, so it has to be deducted, but the UK ones do not, they list the net carbs, the digestible ones. There are also sugar alcohols, which we can't digest but our gut flora and fauna can - I avoid those, as my insides took some time to recover from the party that went on in there - I thought I was going to become geography I was so inflated from the gas they produced.
 
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