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Hello My name is Ann and I am from Nottingham. I am 38 and have had type 1 diabetes for the last 20 years
Really struggling with diabetic gastroparesis for the last year and admitted to hospital with DKA frequently.
Anyone else had any experience of either please ?
 
Hi Ann, welcome to the forum 🙂 I had DKA at diagnosis, but not since. I had a stomach virus at the time and didn't know I was a slow-onset Type 1, but now I wouldn't be able to say whether it was the virus effects I was feeling or the DKA - or both. It was horrible, so I'm sorry to hear you have been suffering this more than once :( We do have members here with gastroparesis, so hopefully they will be able to share their experiences with you.

What insulin treatment are you on? I know one of our members finds using a pump has made things much easier for them.
 
Thanks for your reply.

I am on lantus twice daily (long acting insulin) and novorapid (short acting) with meals.

I would be really interested in getting a pump, but it has never been offered despite being hospitalised with DKA 11 times last year and a months stay on a feeding tube for gastroparesis.

Looking forward to hearing from other people, and thank you for your welcome

Ann
 
Ann, if you haven't already looked into pumps, have a look at the INPUT website:

http://input.me.uk/

They are really good at helping people put their case for a pump. It does sound to me like you would benefit from the better control and fine-tuning a pump can bring 🙂
 
Hi Ann

I've had gastroparesis four years and diabetes for 43years. The best things for my gastroparesis are domperidone, erythromyic and going onto a pump. My consultant wanted me to stop the erythromycin, because of potential side effects, and only have pureed foods but to me that wasn't living a life. I have reduced my dose of erythromycin and that is working. Since going onto the pump I've managed to get my HBA1C down to 6.8 and my highest BG has been 18 - but this is rare, BGs are usually in single figures.
 
Wow, I am liking the sound of the pump my last hb1 was 10.2 it just never has been offered to me. I take domperidone cyclazine and ondanzetron and an almost exclusively liquid diet. I shall certainly be talking to my gp about the possibility of a pump. Thank you
 
Hi Annie I also have had lower gastroperesis for about 17 years now and I take domperidone. I have been a type 1 for 36 years and I have never been offered a pump. I did ask about one but vaguely remember being told I was not suitable. I am wondering if that was a load of rubbish and I to am going to ask at next diabetic clinic.

Northener do you know why a type 1 would not be able to use a pump ?, I am a very brittle diabetic, or so I have been told.

AJ why does erythromycin help with gastrperesis ?, I have only ever been offered domperidone ? Sorry Ann I have hijacked your thread but you may be interested in any replies. I forgot to welcome you and say hello as well !! Its very nice to meet you and look forward to speaking to you. TinTin
 
..Northener do you know why a type 1 would not be able to use a pump ?, I am a very brittle diabetic, or so I have been told...

As far as I know, only an inability to use it correctly would make it unsuitable. We've had very few people here who have actually returned a pump and gone back to injections because they could not get on with it - the vast majority say that it has improved their control and quality of life considerably. I would have thought it was more suitable to a brittle diabetic than one or two injections of long-acting a day because you can tailor the basals more closely to the particular times of day or circumstances that cause you problems. The basic problem is that they are expensive, although by improving control they probably save money long-term by reducing risk of complications.
 
As far as I know, only an inability to use it correctly would make it unsuitable. We've had very few people here who have actually returned a pump and gone back to injections because they could not get on with it - the vast majority say that it has improved their control and quality of life considerably. I would have thought it was more suitable to a brittle diabetic than one or two injections of long-acting a day because you can tailor the basals more closely to the particular times of day or circumstances that cause you problems. The basic problem is that they are expensive, although by improving control they probably save money long-term by reducing risk of complications.

That makes feel quite sad. I was diagnosed at 12 didnt go to clinics until I was 19 and have never once been offered a pump and as I said when I brought it up admittedly many years ago I was made to feel in some way I was unsuitable so I have never asked again. Now I am in dire straits with complications. I feel quite strongly that a pump even 15-20 years ago could have made a massive difference to the outcome :(
 
Totally agree Tintin considering I am admitted to hospital roughly every 6 weeks with complications I have never been offered a pump, the only time it was mentioned was a diabetic nurse on the ward who said shame the pumps are only for children !!!!
Shall be asking serious questions now. Let me know how you get on asking for one
 
Pumps are most certainly not just for children. It's worth talking to the people at INPUT. I get the impression that it is only recently that access to pumps is being improved, many DSNs and even some consultants had little experience of them. A consultant told me he would put everyone on a pump who wanted one, but there is simply not the funding available so expectations are probably being 'managed' by putting off as many people as possible. A similar story to the restriction of test strips for Type 2s, the old mantra 'You don't need to test' - a short-term saving with longer-term consequences :(
 
Hi Annie I will let you know how I get on and you could do the same and let me know how it goes for you. I just have this horrible feeling they will say it is too late for me now as I have such terrible complications.

Thanks for explanation Northener, I guess there are a lot of type 1's who will suffer as a consequence of funding problems. It is widespread in every department, renal clinic is the same and cannot provide certain drugs and treatments because of cost. The test strips for type 2.s is another example of short sighted-ness by the NHS. I admit I did not think too much about patients suffering that much until it has directly affected me. I heard talk of patients dieing because of lack of drug treatments available but did not associate that with my circumstances, but now faced with the very real reality of possibly dieing from kidney failure due to diabetic complications I fell I have become a statistic in the lack of funding problem.
 
AJ why does erythromycin help with gastrperesis ?, I have only ever been offered domperidone ? Sorry Ann I have hijacked your thread but you may be interested in any replies. I forgot to welcome you and say hello as well !! Its very nice to meet you and look forward to speaking to you. TinTin
Hi TinTin Erythromycin helps because it relaxes the stomach muscles so that the food passes from the stomach into the gut more quickly. It's not perfect but it helps and, for me, is much better than just domperidone🙂
 
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Hi Annie, welcome to the forum!

It makes me so sad hearing the hoops that some people have to jump through to get pumps. Yes they are expensive but over a lifetime the problems they prevent/improve must save more money than the cost of the pump?

When my daughter was diagnosed, a trial was startng to compare pumps with MDI in newly diagnosed children, so the hospital were actively pushing for us to go on the trial (50% chance of getting pump if we agreed). We had to decide within 10 days of diagnosis, which is tough as we didn't have chance to get over the shock of the diagnosis and we knew nothing about insulin pumps then. We were started on fixed doses of Lantus and Novorapid, and BGs hardly ever fell into single figures (although it was very early days, dose would have eventually been adjusted better and they would have taught us carb counting but didn't want to overload us with too much info all at once). We got the pump 8 days after diagnosis and BG instantly fell into the normal range most of the time so my initial misgivings were blown away just like that!

So then we did have to learn all about carbs, but rather than one of these 5-day courses which adults seem to have to go on, we were just given a copy of the Carbs and Cals book, had half an hour with a dietician to make sure that we understood exactly what foods do and don't contain carbs, and then were left to get on with it and hope that we didn't make any disastrous mistakes! First couple of pump refills and set changes were supervised by pump rep and DSN, then we were on our own with that too, although we could always contact DSN if we got stuck.

It was total brain overload at first, for a few days if you'd asked what day it was I would probably have said "sausages" or some other ridiculous answer! And it is hard work to get pump set up properly and it seems to need almost constant adjustment, but we stuck with it and got through the hard first stages and have never looked back. Last HbA1c was 51 / 6.8% which i'm well pleased with. If anyone tries to take it off my daughter when she turns 18 they will have a fight on their hands!

My daughters basal rate on school days varies from 0.15 units/hour mid morning to 0.72 overnight, you can vary it by the hour if you like, you can't adjust Lantus like that! (The mind boggles how small 0.15 unit is, especially spread out over an hour!). We have a second basal rate set up for holidays which is higher because she is usually less active. Also I would have thought that pumps would be brilliant for people with digestive problems as you can do extended boluses, i.e. instead of whacking the insulin dose all in at once, you can have it delivered gradually over whatever period of time you specify, anywhere between 15 mins and 12 hours on ours!

Please please do push for a pump, the whole point of them is that you can tailor them exactly to your needs whatever your needs are, and unless your intelligence level is that of a slug then I can't see how they can say that anyone isn't suitable! If we can do it then anyone can!

Good luck 🙂
 
Hi Ann, Welcome ! to the forum. I am on a pump & would not go back to mdi. T1 for 48 yrs & still full time employment. Was at work till 10 last nt & normally finish at 5. No t , just reduced bolus to suit. Its the best gadget yet 🙂
 
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