Blackcat76
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- Relationship to Diabetes
- Type 1.5 LADA
Hi there ! I'm a type 1.5 lada lass who's a newbie at forums
Thank you so so much for your reply. Yes I am on 2g of Metformin that I take with evening meal. You've given me a lot of insight into things I'd not thought of trying thank you so much I will give these a try and see how the basal levels go xThat graph suggests that your evening Lantus is doing OK as you are in range through the night but the morning Lantus dose may not be holding you steady.... or your mealtime ratios need increasing. It is important to get the Lantus dose right before you mess with meal time ratios so it would be worth doing some basal testing through the day, by skipping a meal each day in rotation.... so skip breakfast one day and lunch the next and evening meal the next day and see what happens with your levels in the absence of food (and Fiasp of course) during those skipped meal periods. Your basal insulin should be holding you reasonably steady in the absence of food and meal time insulin. If levels appear to be rising when you skip a meal it suggests you may need more basal and if they are falling, you probably need less basal insulin (Lantus). It is important not to change anything until you have checked all 3 meal periods and then look at the overall trend over each meal period. If it is consistently rising, then a basal increase would be the way to tackle it. If it rises over part of the day and then falls the rest, then you might be best tackling it with a meal ratio change.
I will link more information re basal testing for you to read before starting it as my description above is just a very rough outline of the procedure. Obviously there is no need to finger prick when you have Libre to show you what is happening.
Basal Testing Made Easy
Here's a link for basal testing, which will hopefully clear up the myths for anyone starting on their pump journey http://diatribe.org/issues/13/learning-curve Plus this might help as well. http://diatribe.org/issues/26/thinking-like-a-pancreasforum.diabetes.org.uk
Our bodies are not as uniform in their needs as you might expect, so it may be that you need more Lantus in the morning and less at night. As an example, I need 22 units in the morning (as soon as I wake up) to keep my levels steady through the day, but only 2 units at night and sometimes none at night if I have done plenty of exercise like today. Obviously that is a big difference between daytime and nighttime needs. Yours may be much more similar, but with that graph steadily rising during the day, it suggests you may need more during the day and that increase may mean you need slightly less at night as there will be some overlap.
If you are not confident in adjusting your basal doses then do discuss it with your nurse although personally I am a firm believer in experimenting to see what works for yourself, but it should always be done with one eye very carefully on keeping yourself safe, so any adjustments should be small and give it a few days to see how things settle and then if you need to, make another small adjustment, until you start to see better results.
Out of curiosity, do you take Metformin or has it been suggested as an option because those basal doses suggest that you may be suffering from some insulin resistance and Metformin can help with that. Exercise can also help to reduce basal needs along with weight loss..... both of which I am currently tackling because my weight has been increasing a bit just recently. I don't know if any of those things are applicable to you, but just something to consider. It can be hard to lose weight when you are using insulin and you need to understand how to reduce your doses as you lose weight or increase exercise, but Metformin might help.
Another thought.... do you inject all 71 units in one go into one site? I find splitting my 22 units of basal insulin into 2 injections of 11 units (one into each buttock... same needle) gives me better and more even absorption, so trying that for your daytime dose might be worthwhile to see if that change alone helps with your daytime levels, but perhaps leave your nighttime dose as a single injection and just see if you notice any difference to your daytime levels.
By the way, you don't have to inject into your buttocks, your thighs or stomach or wherever you currently inject is fine as I appreciate that reaching to jab your bum can be challenging and you need a bit more flexibility and dexterity than other sites. It is just my preference for my basal insulin. I do it whilst lying in bed which makes it easier. 🙄
Anyway, those are just some things that occur to me and might be worth experimenting with to see if you can improve things a bit. Only change one thing at once and give it a few days before you change it again or change something else, otherwise it can all get very confusing.... and always keep hypo treatments close to hand wherever you are when you are particularly when adjusting insulin doses and especially by the bed.