Hello everyone, I have type 2 diabetes. As well as half dozen other auto immune disorders. I am struggling with foods as well as watching the diabetes side im also having to make sure it's gluten free due to having coeliac. Many tears have been shed. The last few years my blood test numbers have been all over the place. I'm trying so hard but my ketones keep rising 0.7 today. End up making veg curries and rice, yes im vegetarian. I joined so I could get support and maybe offer support. I've also signed up to do the one million steps challenge this year. My first challenge ever. Hope you're all well and thank you for excepting me on the group. X
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IrvineHimself
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Hi @Jay13, and welcome.
You need to rethink this part of your diet, not the vegetarian part, I have cut back drastically on red meat and other carnivorous delights. My diet now consist largely of: plant based meat substitutes Tofu, oily fish, halloumi and other cheeses. ... etc. Although because of the fat content, I can justify the occasional burger on Ryvita Traditional Crackers, (they have the lowest carb content, per portion, for any bread substitute I have found so far)
The problem is the rice, it has the highest carb content of any of the main bulk foods, second only to pasta.
For guidance on diet, I have this prepared text:
The general advice is to cut back on carbs, they all get converted to sugar. My Doctor gave me a target for a daily carb allowance. Since cutting back too quickly on the carbs can lead to complications, this initial target will, along with your medical history, depend on your previous eating habits. The most important thing to note is that you have to reduce your carb intake in stages.
Get into the habit of looking at the nutritional info on prepared foods, snacks etc and don't be fooled by labels that say: "Healthy Option". They may be healthy, but they can also have very high carb content. If, like me, you lack the discipline to just have one chocolate digestive, then it is probably best to avoid high sugar biscuits completely. Ditto with packets of crisps, tortillas and the like. Sugar is another no-no: Avoid sugary drinks and, if you can stomach them , use saccharine or some other sweetener in tea and coffee. If not, drink your morning cuppa unsweetened. With respect to soft drinks, note that there is a difference between "sugar free" and "no added sugar". It is the latter which should be your beverage of choice.
In general, you should only have very small, tiny daily portions of high carb veg, grains and cereals. Basically, cut back drastically on: pasta. potatoes, rice, bread... Another thing to avoid is "most" tropical fruits as they have a high sugar content. Apples and berries have a much lower sugar content, as does fruit which is not fully ripened.
For snacking, tree nuts:, almonds, walnuts, hazelnuts.... are all good. On the other hand dried fruit like raisins and sultanas are full of sugar. (That is why grapes are used to make great wine)
There is a meal planner here in the main DiabetesUK domain, which may be of use. Along with a search box, the page also has a navigation bar that will allow you to browse a large number of good quality articles on suitable foods, recipes ... etc, etc.
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I don't know how having coeliac will affect your diet or the diabetes itself, but I know for a fact other members, (@Pumper_Sue for one,) have the same condition and will know doubt be a long shortly, (by the way mentioning her in the thread like that was a shout out, I hope she doesn't mind.)
You need to rethink this part of your diet, not the vegetarian part, I have cut back drastically on red meat and other carnivorous delights. My diet now consist largely of: plant based meat substitutes Tofu, oily fish, halloumi and other cheeses. ... etc. Although because of the fat content, I can justify the occasional burger on Ryvita Traditional Crackers, (they have the lowest carb content, per portion, for any bread substitute I have found so far)
The problem is the rice, it has the highest carb content of any of the main bulk foods, second only to pasta.
For guidance on diet, I have this prepared text:
The general advice is to cut back on carbs, they all get converted to sugar. My Doctor gave me a target for a daily carb allowance. Since cutting back too quickly on the carbs can lead to complications, this initial target will, along with your medical history, depend on your previous eating habits. The most important thing to note is that you have to reduce your carb intake in stages.
Get into the habit of looking at the nutritional info on prepared foods, snacks etc and don't be fooled by labels that say: "Healthy Option". They may be healthy, but they can also have very high carb content. If, like me, you lack the discipline to just have one chocolate digestive, then it is probably best to avoid high sugar biscuits completely. Ditto with packets of crisps, tortillas and the like. Sugar is another no-no: Avoid sugary drinks and, if you can stomach them , use saccharine or some other sweetener in tea and coffee. If not, drink your morning cuppa unsweetened. With respect to soft drinks, note that there is a difference between "sugar free" and "no added sugar". It is the latter which should be your beverage of choice.
In general, you should only have very small, tiny daily portions of high carb veg, grains and cereals. Basically, cut back drastically on: pasta. potatoes, rice, bread... Another thing to avoid is "most" tropical fruits as they have a high sugar content. Apples and berries have a much lower sugar content, as does fruit which is not fully ripened.
For snacking, tree nuts:, almonds, walnuts, hazelnuts.... are all good. On the other hand dried fruit like raisins and sultanas are full of sugar. (That is why grapes are used to make great wine)
There is a meal planner here in the main DiabetesUK domain, which may be of use. Along with a search box, the page also has a navigation bar that will allow you to browse a large number of good quality articles on suitable foods, recipes ... etc, etc.
End prepared text
I don't know how having coeliac will affect your diet or the diabetes itself, but I know for a fact other members, (@Pumper_Sue for one,) have the same condition and will know doubt be a long shortly, (by the way mentioning her in the thread like that was a shout out, I hope she doesn't mind.)
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Welcome to the forum
As you have some autoimmune conditions I would want to be sure that it is Type 2 diabetes that you have, as Type 1 or LADA being an autoimmune conditions can go hand in hand.
There are tests available to confirm your type and if you have not had those it might be wise to ask for them (C-peptide and GAD antibodies).
There are quite a few people who are vegetarian and in the Food forum there are veggie recipes which you could try or do an internet search for low carb or keto veggie recipes.
Edamame or black bean pasta is gluten free so that may be an option for you and is low carb.
People use cauliflower rice with their curries or in stirfrys.
As you have some autoimmune conditions I would want to be sure that it is Type 2 diabetes that you have, as Type 1 or LADA being an autoimmune conditions can go hand in hand.
There are tests available to confirm your type and if you have not had those it might be wise to ask for them (C-peptide and GAD antibodies).
There are quite a few people who are vegetarian and in the Food forum there are veggie recipes which you could try or do an internet search for low carb or keto veggie recipes.
Edamame or black bean pasta is gluten free so that may be an option for you and is low carb.
People use cauliflower rice with their curries or in stirfrys.
Hi @Jay13 and welcome to the forum
Diabetes is hard for vegetarians (and much worse for vegans) I assume you will eat eggs and cheese , both of which are good sources of both Protein and Fat. You will need to eat more protein and more fat to make up for the calories you will be missing by cutting down on carbohydrates.
Personally I still eat curries, but for home made ones I use ground up cauliflower as a substitute for rice and when eating out I order a low carb veg dish such as saag (saag paneer last time) instead of rice.
Diabetes is hard for vegetarians (and much worse for vegans) I assume you will eat eggs and cheese , both of which are good sources of both Protein and Fat. You will need to eat more protein and more fat to make up for the calories you will be missing by cutting down on carbohydrates.
Personally I still eat curries, but for home made ones I use ground up cauliflower as a substitute for rice and when eating out I order a low carb veg dish such as saag (saag paneer last time) instead of rice.
Hello I got diagnosed about 8 years ago x
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It would still be worth asking for the tests as it is a bit more recognised now that there may be a link if you have other autoimmune conditions.
Thank you for your advice. I have an appt on 20th May x
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Let us know how the appointment goes @Jay13
Have you been taking meds for your T2 over the years? And have they generally worked as expected? Or have you needed to add more or different meds as time has gone on?
LADA can be a tricky beast, as it can respond to T2 meds initially while you still have a reasonable amount of beta cells remaining, but as the gradual destruction continues, there can be a tipping point where there aren’t enough beta cells to be encouraged into action by the meds.
Which meds do you take?
Have you been taking meds for your T2 over the years? And have they generally worked as expected? Or have you needed to add more or different meds as time has gone on?
LADA can be a tricky beast, as it can respond to T2 meds initially while you still have a reasonable amount of beta cells remaining, but as the gradual destruction continues, there can be a tipping point where there aren’t enough beta cells to be encouraged into action by the meds.
Which meds do you take?
Hello, what is LADA? I used to be on metformin tablets then liquid metformin, but I kept having hypos even tho the doctors argued it doesn't cause hypo. I was told to take when I eat but I had a very bad eating disorder back then hardly ate. In the end I just stopped taking it. I felt alone moved from Scotland to England docs didn't care what I was feeling. Eventually got put on Gliclazide 40mg and 80mg as well as empagliflozine at nite. As well as other meds thyroxine 150mg, calci chew D3, sertraline, Amitryptaline, co-codamol 30/500, folic acid to name a few. Xx
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LADA is Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adulthood, it’s a more gradually-developing form of T1 where the beta cells in the pancreas are lost more gradually and later in life.
I think WHO is now suggesting it is referred to as ‘slowly evolving immune-mediated diabetes’, but I suspect it’ll be a while before that catches on!
I think WHO is now suggesting it is referred to as ‘slowly evolving immune-mediated diabetes’, but I suspect it’ll be a while before that catches on!
IrvineHimself
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Thank you for explaining what Lada is. X
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