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Hi joined while back but didn't venture further as often doing other things to spend time typing this out.
Was pre then over then got down below again and not sure what it is now? as getting info from Quacks and medical services pretty hit n miss.
Quacks referred me to exercise group at a gym place local and they ran a Dietician class weekly trouble is most wasn't any good if type 2 esp as contradicted what got told at Diabetic class from local hospital.
Which seems a huge issue with medical situations as one say's this and other tells you complete opposite which isn't helpful anyone.
 
All my NHS dieticians, doctors, nurses, physios, agreed.
I reversed my type 2 working with them.
What are they telling you to do?
 
Hi @Oscar and welcome back!
There are 2 basic methods for controlling T2 Diabetes:
Either Eat Low Carb or Lose weight.
Now it's hard to lose weight by exercising more because additional exercise makes you hungry. So it all boils down to what you eat and how much of it.
Even those who go the weight loss route tend to cut down on the carbs because they cut down on the calories so much.
I went the Low Carb route since I didn't have much weight I felt I could afford to lose, and I don't like being hungry. SO Low Carb, higher Protein and more fat than most people currently eat. But zero hunger, eat as much as I want , no additional exercise!
 
Well when they found my pituitary tumour one was saying one thing and other i saw (as seemed this one this time other one next like a rota?)would say the complete opposite!
Prolactinomas have an effect on Type 2 etc as had very high Prolactin levels.
Mind stuck me on T HRT no one checked or acknowledged risks blood was too thick so had clots so had a stroke luckily in many respects not so physical but effected mental side with memory etc then had another clot in lungs 2 year ago so now on warfarin.
But all of that effects mobility add lockdown.
Did a class on line run by local diabetic hospital clinic which was ok if could understand as trying to watch and listen to a phone isn't so easy and take it.
But had Quacks/nurse and dietician at gym group tell me opposite stuff.
Have HB1 test done quacks never want to tell you then when ask blurt out "if your panicking" it's x. I never panic but if know it's high/lower know if i'm doing right or wrong things and insight to try harder.
whereas if you don't know you just plod along then one day they squeal your BS's are way too high etc etc.
Just like friend Quacks told him Pre he managed with food or thought! Was having bad issues with feet etc when rang GP told him want to see him in person. Turned out wasn't a regular one came from maybe hospital etc? Asked what med's he take?none.Who said your Pre? All did here.Well you have been diabetic all the time and just off having a heart attack/Stroke as BP is sky high. so now on type 2 meds BP pills and Statins!

I managed to get mine down below to Pre with foods etc. Have full fat milk vintage cheese Rye bread kept away from pasta/rice/white/packet breads etc checked labels as not just sugars but hidden sugars like rice starch/Corn starch etc.
And balanced things out if have this don't eat this and this was doing ok lost weight then they came along eat this this and this and cut fat no blue milk so now feel crap and put weight on!.
 
Welcome to the forum @Oscar

Sorry to hear you feel you have been getting contradictory messages from different healthcare professionals. Diabetes can be confusing and multi-faceted, and while it can be well managed and is generally a fairly slow moving foe, it does carry with it significant risks, and potentially devastating consequences.

So I guess, depending on which risks the different HCPs were focussing on, you may have got a slightly different 'steer'.

Eg many of the complications associated with diabetes relate to glucose disregulation - and the amount of carbohydrate in your diet is most likely to be the factor that most impacts your BG levels. So one may have advocated a lower carb approach. Red meat and fats have little impact on blood glucose.

However diabetes also increases heart disease risk. And there is research which shows that too much red meat and saturated fat can negatively impact heart health. So you may have been advocated a low fat diet, with 'whole grains' which have been shown to have benefits for heart health.

So I can completely understand why you might have got seemingly opposing and contradictory suggestions!

For me, that doesn't mean that either or both of those suggestions are necessarily wrong, it just means you need to find a balance somewhere in the middle, and try not to focus too much on only one source of risk.

There‘s a downloadable guide which covers some of the basics to bear in mind when aiming to create a diabetes-friendly menu you can enjoy here:
 
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