Has anyone been diagnosed with N.A.F.L.D. caused by diabetes

[peter poppet]

Hi all, I have had a very rocky road health wise over the last 5 months. I started to gain weight at a rapid speed going from 17 stones up to 20 stones within 3 months , I went to see my GP at least 3 or 4 times when this was happening and my GP just said the problem was bowel impaction and put me on movical for over 2 months. During this time of 3 months my stomach was getting massive, and I was getting really worried, I was looking on the net to see if i could find out what the problem was and I self diagnosed that I had ascites , I knew the GP was wrong in their diagnosis . After 3 months to cut a long story short , I managed to have a CT scan of my stomach and they diagnosed me having N.A.F.L.D. ( non alcoholic fatty liver disease } I am now having further tests to reveal how bad my liver is and they told me I don't have ascites . I have learned that this N.A.F.L.D. could have been caused by diabetes and I am just wondering if anyone else has had the same problems. I had high blood pressure for months along with not nice diabetes readings.
After being diagnosed with this disease , I have been on a strict diet and excercise routine for the last 5 weeks and I have some good results showing up.
I have cut out all salt, all sugar and fats from my diet, I have also cut my intake of carbs down and the result is amazing in such a short time. My blood pressure is now regularly between 118/84 to 130/ 72 or round about those readings. My diabetes is now down to anything between 5.6 and 7.5 in the morning, it was anything in double figures at one point with about 29 being the highest. My weight has also reduced down now to 19 stones from 20.

So it would be interesting to hear off anyone else who has had similar problems .

 

[mikeyB]

Hello Peter, welcome to this friendly and helpful forum.

I don’t have a fatty liver, but you do demonstrate the known association between what Americans and some physicians here call metabolic syndrome, that is, obesity, hypertension, diabetes and ? Hyperlipidaemia. That’s the link with diabetes.

You are setting about this in the best way. Reducing fat intake, getting the diabetes sorted, and getting your blood pressure down. Remember, fatty liver disease is entirely reversible, so you need to keep losing weight.

The alternative, as I’m sure you’ve been told, is eventual cirrhosis and a considerably higher risk of liver cancer. That would keep my mind focussed for sure.

But as I said, you are doing really well. Keep up the excellent work, and keep in touch, let us know how you get on, and if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask.

 

[peter poppet]

Hi Mike, thanks for your reply. Yes I feel like i have been to hell and back over the last few months, I am quite an active guy , I play golf regularly about 3 times a week and so this massive sudden weight gain came as a complete shock. My GP surgery has been absolutely useless, it was only after putting a bit of pressure on them and getting them to refer me to a consultant that I started to get the proper answers that I needed. If this problem had gone on much longer then I was advised that it could have been fatal for me.

At one point after self diagnosing , I was of the opinion that my time left was very limited . The other problem i forgot to mention is that I have c.o.p.d., pleural plaque and Asthma and the size of my stomach was pressing against my diaphram causing it to obstruct my breathing .

 

[mikeyB]

Aye, Peter. Your breathing problems will improve massively when there is less of you to oxygenate. The pleural plaque will ever be there, though no disablement arises from that - it’s just an X-ray finding.

As I said, keep up the good work. Everybody is time limited, but you can get down to the average with a good run at it.🙂

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Sounds like you are making great progress so far. Well done!

 

[mikeyB]

I should add, cos I forgot, that clinically there is no difference between alcoholic and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, and the advice about drinking is the same in both - don’t. That’s for general information, I’m sure you know that already Peter.

 

[peter poppet]

There may be some truth in what you are saying mike to a degree, Non alcoholic fatty liver disease though will produce a lot more fat at a rapid speed where as alcoholic liver disease mainly just rots the liver and is a disease that occurs over years of alcohol abuse { hence the wording Alcoholic } . N.A.F.L.D. can occur because of many different reasons , i won't deny that I like a drink and I was drinking quite heavy for the 3 months that i was trying to find out what was wrong with me as I was waking up most nights struggling for breath because of the pressure against my lungs and also with the thought that I had ascites . The relief when I found out what the cause of my rapid weight gain was incredible, this was about 5 weeks ago and that is when my life changed. The drinking stopped straight away and the diet began first of all with the excercise mainly starting over the last week. I check my diabetes at least twice a day , sometimes 3 times. I check my blood pressure once or twice a day , the results are starting to show now , I expect it is going to be a hard 12 months coming up but I am determined to win. I play golf on a very hilly course and today was my first game in months where i have walked instead of having a buggy and i noticed the difference, it was not easy but is the start of my massive recovery.

 

[Bloden]

Sounds like you’re off to a flying start, Peter Poppet. Good for you!🙂

 

[Mark Parrott]

I wasn't actually diagnosed with fatty liver disease, but when diagnosed with diabetes, I was told I had a fatty liver. After cutting the carbs (I did not cut down on fat) my liver is now normal & healthy.🙂

 

[Grannylorraine]

I was diagnosed with fatty liver disease about 6 months before my diabetes diagnosis. I do not receive any treatment for the liver, just diet to bring the levels down. Originally I was told to follow a low fat diet, but after being on here I discovered that is no good for diabetes as carbs affect my bg levels.

 

[Davein]

I was diagnosed with fatty liver disease about 6 months before my diabetes diagnosis. I do not receive any treatment for the liver, just diet to bring the levels down. Originally I was told to follow a low fat diet, but after being on here I discovered that is no good for diabetes as carbs affect my bg levels.

Are you feeling any better today Lorraine?

 

[Grannylorraine]

I am feeling better today thank you, although my bg has gone up again. Anyway I have my diabetic review on 6th March, so see what that throws up.

 

[Drummer]

After almost 2 years of a cholesterol lowering diet - which did not work, I had a waist measurement of over 50 inches. I could not use the lower half of the fridge or cupboards as I went dizzy bending over.
As soon as I was diagnosed and went back to low carb my waist began to shrink and soften - I can now wrap the kilts I made twice around my waist and can use all the shelves in the kitchen.
I am pretty certain that my rock hard 'bay window' was fatty liver, but was never diagnosed - nor was my diabetes, which I am sure I have had for quite some time.
I do not cut out fats, only carbs - though I do not add much fat or oil but use the fats which are on the meat or fish I cook

 

[mikeyB]

That’s a great story, Drummer. I’m sure Peter will gain inspiration from it, that it can be done. Whether he would wish to add Morris dancing to his golf is, I suppose, up to him🙂

 

[trophywench]

I love to watch Morris dancing and like any dancing 'in patterns' - so square dancing, country dancing, maypole dancing, some forms of Spanish dance, formation dancing, troupes like the Tiller Girls and Television Toppers (lesser to Betty Boothroyd & co) has always been fascinating to my eyes.

 

[peter poppet]

Thanks everyone for your messages and inspiration , I went golf ing again today , the third time this week although i had a buggy on the first time , I have walked round on the last two games, although its winter rules here and we only play 12 holes a game , the normal golf resumes next week 1st March, my golf course is very hilly and it is hard going when you stop playing for a few months, probably 6 months in my case. Its also a lot harder having to carry an extra 2 stone around on your belly as well. I am determined to beat this N.A.F.L.D. though. I checked my diabetes this morning and it was 6.7 this morning and and this afternoon i checked it and it had gone down to 4.8 , thats the lowest its been for a long time so things are looking good. The only thing that slightly concerns me now though is my blood pressure seems to be getting slightly lower and lower, it was 125/69 with pulse rate at 90 , this is unreal for me , before last christmas it would rarely drop below the 130s / 75 .
I guess it is all trial and error. I guess i could say I am Dancing .

 

[peter poppet]

I was diagnosed with fatty liver disease about 6 months before my diabetes diagnosis. I do not receive any treatment for the liver, just diet to bring the levels down. Originally I was told to follow a low fat diet, but after being on here I discovered that is no good for diabetes as carbs affect my bg levels.[Hi Lorraine, I am led to believe that the only way to be rid of fatty liver disease is to diet and do loads of exercise but it also depends on how badly damaged the liver is . There is no medical cure or treatment for the liver other than a liver transplant or part transplant. Anyway good luck and stick to the diet if you can.]