Hancock at it again

mikeydt1

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this man is really something mustn't have any soul wanting to take away family bubbles. for me i have no bubbles left but this would be a disaster in waiting.

and don't get me even started about police state.
 

Bruce Stephens

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this man is really something mustn't have any soul wanting to take away family bubbles.
From the government's perspective they have few levers to pull, and most of the others cost lots of money.

(I'm not suggesting it would be a good idea. Seems more likely that it'll have marginal effect except to really hurt people, and that they really need to spend more money (some combination of supporting more businesses to close, trying to force more offices to have their employees work from home, supporting people who are asked to isolate). It feels like it's the Treasury (likely representing the Conservative party quite well) that really doesn't want to spend more money on this.)
 

Vonny

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Me, I don't mind a police state, cos I work down the local nick! ;) Just a shame the bobbies don't socially distance but at least they are wearing masks this time round - they didn't last March. I only pop in to pick up my GP letters (I'm NHS admin) and I dread it.

They surely can't break up support bubbles can they? If they try I'll set my 93 year old dad who I care for onto them, that'll show em.
 

trophywench

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The title of this thread always makes me chuckle remembering the Blood Donor and the chap who lived at 5 Railway Cuttings, East Cheam. ie Tony, rather than Matt !
 

mikeydt1

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Hancock has apparently decided to u-turn on what he said the bloody monster. also seems bojo was caught breaking his own rules what was it 7 miles and then on radio 2 the police have withdrawn fining the 2 ladies who travelled 5 miles sort of sums up how one half making the rules think they don't even apply to them but yet they want to make our lives hell.
 

nonethewiser

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Hancock has apparently decided to u-turn on what he said the bloody monster. also seems bojo was caught breaking his own rules what was it 7 miles and then on radio 2 the police have withdrawn fining the 2 ladies who travelled 5 miles sort of sums up how one half making the rules think they don't even apply to them but yet they want to make our lives hell.

Bit different to 2 friends sharing same space in car than someone cycling solo, know which is safest of 2.

At least vaccination programme is gathering momentum as promised, not before time.
 

helli

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My reading of it is a threat - "do as you have been asked and help keep the numbers down otherwise we may need to lockdown the public even more."
Despite numbers rising incredible fast and hospitals struggling, some people think it is a great idea to hold a rave, house party or run a gambling den. Unfortunately, I don't think the threat is very meaningful to those guys. It's like banning someone from driving after they have been caught joy riding.

I have also read about people abusing their support bubbles by changing who is in their bubble by the hour as they go on a "bubble crawl" from friend to friend. At any given time, they only have one friend in their bubble (according to government rules/guidelines) but they mix with 4 or 5 people in a day. I don't know how they cut down on this - do we have to have a formal declaration who is in our bubble?
 
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Robin

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My reading of it is a threat - "do as you have been asked and help keep the numbers down otherwise we may need to lockdown the public even more."
Despite numbers rising incredible fast and hospitals struggling, some people think it is a great idea to hold a rave, house party or run a gambling den. Unfortunately, I don't think the threat is very meaningful to those guys. It's like banning someone from driving after they have been caught joy riding.

I have also read about people abusing their support bubbles by changing who is in their bubble by the hour as they go on a "bubble crawl" from friend to friend. At any given time, they only have one friend in their bubble (according to government rules/guidelines) but they mix with 4 or 5 people in a day. I don't know how they cut down on this - do we have to have a formal declaration who is in our bubble?
I agree, I think the meeting on Sunday, (from where all the media reports of what they were or weren’t going to do originated) was a 'what do we do if none of the current rules work?' And obviously, nothing was off the table for discussion at that meeting.
People in our area generally seem to be careful and are obeying the rules, and lo and behold, the numbers have already come down, so it will be galling if we have to be subjected to more draconian regulations just because some people can’t be bothered to change their behaviour to protect others.
 

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Hancock has apparently decided to u-turn on what he said the bloody monster. also seems bojo was caught breaking his own rules what was it 7 miles and then on radio 2 the police have withdrawn fining the 2 ladies who travelled 5 miles sort of sums up how one half making the rules think they don't even apply to them but yet they want to make our lives hell.
The two ladies in Derbyshire travelled in separate cars, you are allowed to meet up with one other person outside, and they only went to the beauty spot because they thought there would be less people than if they just walked the streets near their homes. So they were actually trying to be sensible, I’m glad their fines have been cancelled.
Regarding Boris, well my hubby enjoys cycling as his form of exercise, he sets off from home, cycles for a while and then turns round and comes back. He’s quite fit and can easily travel 10 miles out and 10 miles back, and isn’t really in close contact with anyone else, is that wrong too then? Is he supposed to just do laps round the block instead? I think the problem is that nobody has bothered to define what “local” means. Or “stay in your area” - does that mean my town, county, tier (although that doesn’t apply at the moment) etc etc.
And how do we know that Boris wasn’t cycling to work or for some essential reason instead of using other transport, I’m no fan of Boris but I think people are too quick to judge sometimes
 

Docb

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I am afraid that the problem with the Boris bike ride is one of credibility and the reluctance to provide anything other than double speak in answer to questions.

Simple question is, did he ride to the park or was he driven to the park to ride. Not being able to get a straight answer to that simple question speaks volumes. Does not really matter what the truth is, it is the reluctance to provide it that is the problem. If somebody cannot be straight over something so simple, you can have no faith in anything they say.
 

Northerner

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The title of this thread always makes me chuckle remembering the Blood Donor and the chap who lived at 5 Railway Cuttings, East Cheam. ie Tony, rather than Matt !
Tony would have done a better job :)

Totally agree with @Docb - this is a third-rate government :( There is not one single minister who has the skillset to enable them to do their job properly and inspire trust and confidence. When things go wrong, as they often do, they just look for someone else to blame or Boris covers their backs. Classic was Gove saying that he often goes for a drive to test his eyesight... :( They are all nodding dogs :( Johnson can't reshuffle the Cabinet because he kicked out all the experienced moderate Tories over Brexit :(
 

mikeydt1

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blame game now take it out on us but in the end the conservatives over 10 years wrecked the NHS and now it has bitten them big time.

we lost wards to a a+e department and now only 1 to cover a vast area and they expect the NHS cope. Nightingales were the biggest con of the cons in history, mouth balled them.
 
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