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I have a chunk of cheese with my cox's apple to slow it down a bit but to be honest I would rather have a short spike from fruit as the 8+ hours spike I get from grain based wholemeal carbs which outlasts my quick acting insulin. I have recently experimented with precooked wholewheat pasta and after 3 days, despite weighing the pasta each day and injecting the correct amount of NovoRapid and increasing my basal insulin, my BG got progressively higher. I cut out the grain based carbs yesterday and reduced my basal insulin again and my BG steadily returned to the normal range. I woke up to a lovely 5.1 this morning ..... so I am happy to get my carbs from fruit and veg from now on and go back to avoiding the wheat based stuff particularly.
Apples never seem to spike me, I have at least one a day, sometimes two. You know an apple a day keeps the doctor away? 🙂
I love blueberries, but they can get expensive and I prefer to not get them from too far away, what with my carbon footprint and all...😉
My Dad used to mash up a banana with cream and brown sugar, and then put a glace cherry or two on top (thankfully he was not diabetic!)
@Greymouser - have you got a garden (or even a balcony)? If so it might be worth investing in some blueberry bushes. They're a bit fussy about planting conditions (they need acid soil, and rainwater rather than tap) but are very easy other than that - we neglect ours and have more blueberries over the summer than we know what to do with 🙂
Just when I thought there was nothing more to be said, I got this message from the training organisation that gave the original information on when to eat fruit!
"Good afternoon xxxxxxxx and thank you so much for your enquiry.
Fruit is such an important food and provides so much important goodness for your body (fibre, vitamins and minerals and energy), however it is important to remember that fruit is a source of carbohydrate and will therefore cause a rise in blood glucose. This doesn't mean that you cannot eat fruit but when you do choose to eat fruit we would like you to be aware that it does contain carbohydrates and will therefore have an impact on your blood glucose.
Years and years ago people with Diabetes were provided with lists of foods that they could eat and foods that they couldn't or lists that stated good foods versus bad foods. Fruit always appeared on the can eat/good foods and correctly so but this doesn't explain the full story. Fruit is good for you but will push up ones blood glucose. If we think something is good for us (as these old lists indicated) then there is often the assumption that we can eat as much of that food as we like. We found people with Type 2 Diabetes most frustrated because they had been 'so good', eating lots and lots of fruit but didn't see any improvements in their diabetes.
We understand food so much better now and know that a simple list of good versus bad foods is not enough or accurate. We now aim to give people just like you the knowledge to be able to put together a meal that is good for you but also doesn't push up your blood glucose too much.
As you correctly pointed out one of the videos suggests not eating fruit after a main meal; this may be just one of the ways to control the amount of carbohydrate eaten at a meal time. But that choice is yours, if all you had at lunch was a tuna salad then having a piece of fruit after that meal is going to provide you with your only source of carbohydrate at that meal. If however you had fish and chips or lasagne and garlic bread or a sandwich and crisps, you would have already eaten a fair amount of carbohydrate and so having fruit (an additional source of carbohydrate) would push up your blood glucose even further.
Fruit remains an excellent food to include and if you are looking for something sweet after a meal and 1 piece of fruit is enough to help with that urge then that is a better choice than a sticky toffee pudding or 2 to 3 biscuits, the same principle applies if looking for a snack.
So be honest with yourself, be mindful of your food choices and watch your portions. Even though something may be healthy it doesn't mean that it will not affect your diabetes control."
My initial reaction was no diabetic who was serious about controlling their blood glucose would eat fish 'n chips, lasagne, garlic bread, sandwiches, sticky toffee pudding and crisps (OK I do have the occasional smallest packet of crisps). The second was that of course a salad contains carbs - all veggies do - so fruit after is not the only source of carbs, just adding to them! But the summary line was spot on. And I hope this really is the end!!!
That actually sounds like a very sensible message to me, much better than the things they told you initially (and a good explanation of what they told you initially too - you could have done with that at the time). And I know that diabetics who are both knowledgeable about their diabetes and making an effort to control their blood sugar wouldn't eat something like lasagne with garlic bread followed by sticky toffee pudding - but sadly a lot of diabetics are either not knowledgeable about how diabetes works or not seriously trying to control their blood sugar or both, and really would eat that sort of meal. My cousin's husband has type 2 and as far as I can make out, he thinks that because he is taking Metformin he can eat anything he likes
Btw, you might want to edit your post to remove your name, if that's your real name, and if you mind it being on the internet.
In fact we already have one bush in its third year which has produced loads this summer, though they never get the chance to get to a bowl, I have snacked everytime I passed. 🙂 I keep threatening to get some more, but keep missing them. I should be able to find some about now though I guess.
In fact we already have one bush in its third year which has produced loads this summer, though they never get the chance to get to a bowl, I have snacked everytime I passed. 🙂 I keep threatening to get some more, but keep missing them. I should be able to find some about now though I guess.
That actually sounds like a very sensible message to me, much better than the things they told you initially (and a good explanation of what they told you initially too - you could have done with that at the time). And I know that diabetics who are both knowledgeable about their diabetes and making an effort to control their blood sugar wouldn't eat something like lasagne with garlic bread followed by sticky toffee pudding - but sadly a lot of diabetics are either not knowledgeable about how diabetes works or not seriously trying to control their blood sugar or both, and really would eat that sort of meal. My cousin's husband has type 2 and as far as I can make out, he thinks that because he is taking Metformin he can eat anything he likes
Btw, you might want to edit your post to remove your name, if that's your real name, and if you mind it being on the internet.
Thanks - it was my maiden name and it's now gone - I wasn't thinking. I normally use a number of aliases, like Felinia my cat's name. At least thanks to another bit of advice I removed the training company's name!
Since diagnosis (July 2018) I have only had a handful of blueberries in my morning porridge and in my evening yogurt. Tonight we didn't have any blueberries so I chopped a strawberry and put that in my yogurt. It was way too sweet for me. Back in the day I used to eat them by the punnet. Ho hum.
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