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Forgot to take my novoeapid

Discussion in 'General Messageboard' started by ScrewRM, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. ScrewRM

    ScrewRM Active Member

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    Can anyone answer this : I forgot to take my novorapid I’m hoping that this isn’t uncommon for newly diagnosed to forget? I’ve eaten my meal and blood levels have gone from 5.1 to 18.5 less than 2 hours after my meal, I did have a small piece of chocolate afterwards. I’m going to see the DN tomorrow but any other experiences similar?
     
  2. Thebearcametoo

    Thebearcametoo Well-Known Member

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    Have you had some now? If you forget when you eat you can bolus (have the novorapid) when you test. The meter will give you what dose you need if you press bolus advice, you don’t need to add any carbs.
     
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  3. TheClockworkDodo

    TheClockworkDodo Well-Known Member

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    It's not uncommon for any insulin-user to forget their injection occasionally, newly diagnosed or not! But it just shows that you definitely are diabetic - your level would not have gone up so much if you weren't.

    And as @Thebearcametoo says, if you realise after a meal that you've forgotten to have your insulin with it, you can always have the insulin afterwards. If it happens in the evening I wouldn't have the full dose you would have had with the meal, but I'd certainly have some.
     
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  4. ScrewRM

    ScrewRM Active Member

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    Okay, I will take some novorapid now, as my next o jection isn’t until the morning and my reading is 21+
     
  5. ScrewRM

    ScrewRM Active Member

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    Is there a chance they may have mistaken me type 1? Could I possibly have type 2? I’m 25 I think I’m about 12/13 stone... not much to me although I have a little belly, although it’s not noticed... (daddy bod)
     
  6. everydayupsanddowns

    everydayupsanddowns Moderator

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    Half of people are diagnosed with T1 when older than 18, so 25 is not at all unusual. Classification of which type people are is often best done on clinical factors of the presentation - speed of onset, weight loss, presence of ketones as well as family history and a host of other things. There are antibody and c-peptide checks that can be undertaken to confirm cases, but these are rarely clear cut in themselves.
     
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  7. Thebearcametoo

    Thebearcametoo Well-Known Member

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    Talk to your DSN about the tests they do to determine whether type 1 or not. There are various factors they take into account that confirm the diagnosis. Type 1 isn’t about something you did lifestyle wise or something you can prevent or overturn. I know it’s a shock. I know it’s hard to get your head round but with numbers like that you need insulin. It’s a steep learning curve but it will become second nature to you within a few months.

    It may help to ask for a referral to a psychologist on your team to talk through everything. I don’t know how much support you got with the diagnosis but I get the feeling that adult teams are less hands on than our paediatric team who gave us loads of support and information in the first couple of months.
     
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  8. Kaylz

    Kaylz Well-Known Member

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    I highly doubt it, Type 1 & Type 2 are completely different, Type 1's don't produce any insulin of their own which your incident seems to lean towards, a Type 2 still produces insulin their body just doesn't use it as well as it should so rather than keep rising a Type 2 would generally spike but come back down again

    I was a week away from 25th birthday when I ended up in the hospital and diagnosed with Type 1 and there are quite a few of the members here that have been diagnosed Type 1 much later than 25

    xx
     
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  9. Ljc

    Ljc Well-Known Member

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    Your BGs going up to 18.5 from 5.1 in less than 2 hours proves you definitely have diabetes .

    Please forgive me as I do not wish to cause offence in any way. You seem to be worried that you may have been mis diagnosed with T1 instead of with T2, May I ask why. You see if we knew why we may be able to help you better.
     
  10. ScrewRM

    ScrewRM Active Member

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    Hi I just wonder wether I have type 2 because I know I’m my head it’s reversible and I’ve not got use to it yet, I’m sure it will come... I’m taking incilin 3 Times a day and blood G level 4 times a day.
    Sorry if I have not given as much information as you would like
     
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  11. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member

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    Yes, some people with Type 2 manage to reverse it, but I take my hat off to them, it's not at all easy! They have to keep constantly on top of it, and it seems to me that many of them have a far more restricted life and diet than I do with Type 1. You’ll get used to the routine of using insulin, and it will become second nature, I’d no more forget an insulin injection than I’d forget to clean my teeth now, although in the early days, I did forget, and it took a while to get ingrained into the routine. Nowadays I carry a vast store of info about carb content and insulin ratios round in my brain with me, and it's got a lot easier.
     
  12. Ljc

    Ljc Well-Known Member

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    Reversal of T2 is atm quite rare, nremission is possible for some folks but both requires an awful lot of determination and hard work .

    T2 is often mistakenly thought be as less severe than T1, in one respect it can be as it can be more forgiving initially but it sure does catch up on one.

    I have been on MDI (multiple daily injections) for a couple of years now and to be honest it has made my life easier in many ways , one of them is that I feel so much better in myself. TBH its Much better than the ever increasing diabetes tablets that I used to have.

    I know it is going to take time for you to get your head around your diagnosis and we know you will get there just like we all have , yep I bet many of us whatever type we have have railed against it , denied it , buried our heads in the sand etc.

    Strange as it may seem,Their are some good things that come with a diagnosis of diabetes .
    All those extra health checks that non diabetics don’t get.
    Quite a few of us have become healthier and fitter than we were.
    But this is al very early days and it’s hard for you right now.
     
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  13. everydayupsanddowns

    everydayupsanddowns Moderator

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    Hope your levels have returned to a bit more of an even keel today @ScrewRM
     
  14. SB2015

    SB2015 Well-Known Member

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    The increase in levels that you experienced by forgetting your Novorapid seem to confirm the diagnosis. I got myself up to 18 the other day when I failed to deliver my insulin after a test. It is easy to do, and also to wonder whether you did it or not once it becomes automatic. Nowadays some of the pens have a timer on them telling you how long ago it is since your last injection. Good that you spotted the problem with glucose test and have now corrected it.

    You definitely need insulin and it will get easier to work things out, and it will become part of your new ‘normal’ life. As you are finding this difficult to accept I think it would be worth talking to your DSN. As others have said it is quite common now to be diagnosed with T1 as an adult, but it is still a shock.
     
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  15. TheClockworkDodo

    TheClockworkDodo Well-Known Member

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    I have also been wondering about why you seem to think it would be better to have type 2, as it seems to me that having type 1 is a lot easier than having type 2!

    The disadvantage of having type 1 rather than type 2 is obviously that you have to give yourself injections, most type 2s don't (though some do).

    But the advantages of having type 1 rather than type 2 are:
    You don't have to make major changes to your diet if you have type 1, you just have to make small changes and then balance your insulin with your food - if you have type 2 you have to drastically cut the carbs you eat if you want to get your blood sugar levels down and keep them there.
    You don't have to take meds with nasty side effects if you have type 1 - if you have type 2 there's a good chance you'll be given Metformin, which has a reputation for causing stomach upsets.
    Type 2s are often given a diagnosis and then told "take these pills, cut out sugar, and come back in a year" and given no further help, while type 1s have access to experts in the field, such as diabetes consultants, diabetes specialist nurses, dieticians, and lots of helpful technology.

    It's true that some type 2s can get their blood sugar down to healthy levels again, with a lot of hard work and diet changes and a bit of luck - but they have to keep on with the hard work to keep them there. The illness can go into remission but it can't be cured, any more than type 1 can be.
     
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  16. ScrewRM

    ScrewRM Active Member

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    Thanks for your detailed comments really helpful, I have been to see my DN this afternoon. I have to now take novarapid before each meal.
    Again thanks very much slowly getting my head around it all
     
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  17. SB2015

    SB2015 Well-Known Member

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    That makes perfect sense. In time you will get used to adjusting your doses to suit the number of carbs you are about to eat.
    Off to deliver insulin for a 30.5g meal. I know I said that I like to aim for 30g at each meal but OH has really come up trumps this week!
     
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  18. Kaylz

    Kaylz Well-Known Member

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    mind sharing what your having and the recipe? LOL, I tend to have around 30g for my tea too xx
     
  19. ScrewRM

    ScrewRM Active Member

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    Hi,
    It was 9.0 when I woke up, was lower at dinner time but I actually haven’t been eating breakfast.. struggling to know what to eat for breakfast
     
  20. Ljc

    Ljc Well-Known Member

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    What would you like to have for your breakfast ?
     
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