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Feeling dreadful

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SlowRunner

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I've got no energy, keep getting hypo's quite suddenly & for no apparent reason, have lost half a stone in weight this week and had ++ ketones (8mmol) yesterday even though I was struggling to keep my blood sugar above 5. Is it the weather? I feel nearly as bad as pre-diagnosis :(
 
Sorry to hear this I can't offer any practical help, but I am sure someone will be along soon!
 
I've got no energy, keep getting hypo's quite suddenly & for no apparent reason, have lost half a stone in weight this week and had ++ ketones (8mmol) yesterday even though I was struggling to keep my blood sugar above 5. Is it the weather? I feel nearly as bad as pre-diagnosis :(
The weight loss and ketones are worrying :( Do you have a blood ketone monitor? Are you managing to eat OK? It's unusual to get ketones with low blood sugar levels, but it can still be problematic. Have you sought professional advice? Urine ketones only show a couple of hours after blood ketones would, so your BG levels won't be in sync with them. Do seek medical help if this continues through the weekend, it sounds worryingly like DKA :(

You may find this helpful:

http://www.uclh.nhs.uk/PandV/PIL/Pa...ick day rules – multiple daily injections.pdf
 
I do have a blood ketone meter but I don't have any strips left now. I have some urine ones but I haven't tested today. I am eating ok but I feel like I'm not digesting it properly , my stomach is in knots & I feel a bit queasy. I'll keep an eye on things & get medical advice if it doesn't improve
 
I do have a blood ketone meter but I don't have any strips left now. I have some urine ones but I haven't tested today. I am eating ok but I feel like I'm not digesting it properly , my stomach is in knots & I feel a bit queasy. I'll keep an eye on things & get medical advice if it doesn't improve
If you're not digesting stuff properly, that could be the cause of the hypos and the ketones - might be worth reducing your bolus (and possibly basal). Bl*8dy diabetes makes it so much trickier 😡 Hope you are feeling better very soon, take care - no running! 🙂
 
I've got no energy, keep getting hypo's quite suddenly & for no apparent reason, have lost half a stone in weight this week and had ++ ketones (8mmol) yesterday even though I was struggling to keep my blood sugar above 5. Is it the weather? I feel nearly as bad as pre-diagnosis :(
Any chance you have developed coeliac disease?
 
Oh heck, hope you're feeling a bit better soon Slowrunner :(
 
I've got no energy, keep getting hypo's quite suddenly & for no apparent reason, have lost half a stone in weight this week and had ++ ketones (8mmol) yesterday even though I was struggling to keep my blood sugar above 5. Is it the weather? I feel nearly as bad as pre-diagnosis :(


If I had posted this thread you would have been straight on my case to seek proper medical advice like all a bit sharpish. Forgive me then please if I implore you to seek proper medical advice like erm.....right now. Ketones make you feel crappy enough but ketones with normal blood sugar if you are not on a super high protein diet with very little carbs cannot ever be right. Please, please please see a doctor today 😱
 
I do have a blood ketone meter but I don't have any strips left now. I have some urine ones but I haven't tested today. I am eating ok but I feel like I'm not digesting it properly , my stomach is in knots & I feel a bit queasy. I'll keep an eye on things & get medical advice if it doesn't improve
You've said enough that makes me say that your priority must be seeking face to face medical advice, not asking on an internet support forum, however well trusted! Please post back AFTER you have seen a doctor in the most appropriate setting for your location over a wekend.
 
Thank you for your concern folks. I'm pleased to report that I'm not seriously ill - I'm just not eating enough. Emergency doc went through my food & exercise and concluded that I've been in negative calories at least 3 days last week (the days I went running) and my body is simply in overdrive trying to burn fat for fuel. So I've had my wrist slapped and been told to carb up for strenuous exercise and I'll feel much better!
 
Thank you for your concern folks. I'm pleased to report that I'm not seriously ill - I'm just not eating enough. Emergency doc went through my food & exercise and concluded that I've been in negative calories at least 3 days last week (the days I went running) and my body is simply in overdrive trying to burn fat for fuel. So I've had my wrist slapped and been told to carb up for strenuous exercise and I'll feel much better!

That really is fantastic news. We were all very worried about you. I know you have had the all clear but do you actually feel better too? I hope so 🙂
 
Glad it's nothing to worry about and that you are feeling better. X
 
That really is fantastic news. We were all very worried about you. I know you have had the all clear but do you actually feel better too? I hope so 🙂
Yes, I think I will be anyway. It's highlighted that I was beginning to have a bit of an issue with food, particularly carbs - I think I've been a bit afraid of them! So I need to concentrate a bit more on sorting out what my body actually needs rather than worrying so much about what my sugars will do (which is obviously still important). Learning curve & all that!
 
I was - mentally - not right and one of the things was I lost my appetite. I was still eating at every mealtime - but I literally could not manage to eat very much. I've always eaten the protein and veg in favour of the carbs since I was little and well before D reared it's head. It's supposed to be OK with dose adjustment, right?

Well - no actually, in my case. My BG wasn't behaving as it always had before, at all. None of my body was, and my brain certainly wasn't anyway - I knew that LOL - however I'd told myself it was all down to the mental thing and once I'd sorted that, I'd be fine again .... hey ho ... but that wasn't going to improve, whilst I wasn't eating properly, as it turned out.

It wasn't until my sister in Oz just made the comment -into the air - not to my face - one night whilst clearing the plates from dinner at their house - Well if you ask me Jen (nobody had???) you just aren't eating, anywhere near enough! - and walked into the kitchen - that I started to ask myself if that was true? it was, of course. (It was of course. Big sisters are like mothers really, once your mother's gone, LOL)

I think (but don't know for a fact and it doesn't really matter now) that possibly 'this' has just been part of your grieving process, following your diagnosis? However - if it is - kindly remember it - because maybe you might react similarly to any other grieving that happens? - and clearly it's not a really good idea to do it again in future!

Hope it starts to go better, and isn't it marvellous how some random person can see what's happening - when you can't - yet everyone has been assuring you all along that YOU are the expert, on YOU ! LOL
 
Thank you for your concern folks. I'm pleased to report that I'm not seriously ill - I'm just not eating enough. Emergency doc went through my food & exercise and concluded that I've been in negative calories at least 3 days last week (the days I went running) and my body is simply in overdrive trying to burn fat for fuel. So I've had my wrist slapped and been told to carb up for strenuous exercise and I'll feel much better!
It sounds like you ran out of glucose and hit the wall, without being fat adapted or ketoed up, Be one of the ketogenic athletes that run on fat 🙂
 
Thank you for your concern folks. I'm pleased to report that I'm not seriously ill - I'm just not eating enough. Emergency doc went through my food & exercise and concluded that I've been in negative calories at least 3 days last week (the days I went running) and my body is simply in overdrive trying to burn fat for fuel. So I've had my wrist slapped and been told to carb up for strenuous exercise and I'll feel much better!
Pleased for you ! (out come) There is always something that gets you o_O Good luck !
 
But where is the British - not American - ie the trusted advice - on adjusting your insulin doses in order to do this and totally avoid any likelihood of DKA ?

Remember if it isn't accepted by conventional wisdom in the UK - anyone doing this sort of thing here is likely to get very short shrift if it goes wrong - and of course - all of us need reliable advice from trusted sources whenever it goes tits up! How can we and why should we - expect an A&E department to sort us out after they scrape us up off the floor somewhere unless they are on all fours about this sort of thing. And I doubt very much if they would be .....

If it's a brilliant idea, whyever not link to whatever eg. Runsweet say about it, when you are talking to UK diabetic readers who are also runners, on a UK forum?
 
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