I am in remission from Type 2 and defined as At Risk. I find that readings taken in the morning after fasting are actually higher than readings less than 2 hours after food. Has anybody else experienced this and if so did they ever get an explanation as to why?
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harbottle
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Dawn Phenomenon/Foot on Floor Syndrome, very common in people with T2 diabetes.
en.wikipedia.org
Hormones that are secreted in the early hours of the morning trigger the liver to produce glucose and also counter the effects of insulin. People with T2 don't tend to generate the insulin to counter this rise.
Dawn phenomenon - Wikipedia
Hormones that are secreted in the early hours of the morning trigger the liver to produce glucose and also counter the effects of insulin. People with T2 don't tend to generate the insulin to counter this rise.
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Hi and welcome.
Well done on attaining remission. the higher levels in the morning before food are due to what is called Dawn Phenomenon or its more sociable sibling Foot on the Floor Syndrome.
Basically, the liver pumps out glucose in the morning to give us energy for the day ahead. It may stem back to prehistoric times when we had to hunt or forage for our first meal of the day and if you didn't have a burst of glucose to give you energy, you might not have a successful hunt and obviously that can mean you simply don't survive. With our current lifestyles of kitchens with cupboards and fridges we really don't need that glucose surge because getting out of bed and walking to the kitchen to get breakfast doesn't really need any, and then the food provides energy after that so this spare glucose can be a bit of a nuisance. In a non diabetic person, the body produces insulin promptly to deal with it, but those of us who have a compromised insulin response, see our levels rise in the morning. Mine can rise by as much as 6mmols in an hour but thankfully I have insulin which I inject the moment I wake up to deal with it. Sometimes eating something straight away sends a signal to the liver to stop releasing the glucose, or exercise the night before can sometimes help to reduce it because the muscles suck glucose out of the blood stream to replenish their stores whilst we sleep after exercise, so as the liver releases more glucose the muscles take it up.
Anyway, that is the explanation for it. Hope that helps.
Well done on attaining remission. the higher levels in the morning before food are due to what is called Dawn Phenomenon or its more sociable sibling Foot on the Floor Syndrome.
Basically, the liver pumps out glucose in the morning to give us energy for the day ahead. It may stem back to prehistoric times when we had to hunt or forage for our first meal of the day and if you didn't have a burst of glucose to give you energy, you might not have a successful hunt and obviously that can mean you simply don't survive. With our current lifestyles of kitchens with cupboards and fridges we really don't need that glucose surge because getting out of bed and walking to the kitchen to get breakfast doesn't really need any, and then the food provides energy after that so this spare glucose can be a bit of a nuisance. In a non diabetic person, the body produces insulin promptly to deal with it, but those of us who have a compromised insulin response, see our levels rise in the morning. Mine can rise by as much as 6mmols in an hour but thankfully I have insulin which I inject the moment I wake up to deal with it. Sometimes eating something straight away sends a signal to the liver to stop releasing the glucose, or exercise the night before can sometimes help to reduce it because the muscles suck glucose out of the blood stream to replenish their stores whilst we sleep after exercise, so as the liver releases more glucose the muscles take it up.
Anyway, that is the explanation for it. Hope that helps.
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Welcome to the forum @casejm
Congratulations on reaching remission from your T2. Did you aim for weight loss or carb reduction to achieve it?
We have a remission section, where you can exchange experiences with others if that would be helpful?
Congratulations on reaching remission from your T2. Did you aim for weight loss or carb reduction to achieve it?
We have a remission section, where you can exchange experiences with others if that would be helpful?
Thanks for that. Very useful.
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I’m recently diagnosed asT2. I cut out carbs and bought a glucose monitor and I have found my readings after food are normal but my morning readings are high. I recently Saw an iridologist who told me he couldn’t see any problems with my pancreas but felt my liver needed a little support. He suggested I drink lemon water and kept hydrated. He said I could take milk thistle but didn’t think I really needed to. I tend to eat quite late so Im now trying to eat before 8.00pm and will monitor how it goes
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