Enough Carbs

[Jodee]

Hi All

I just did the Desmond course and recall that we should have no more than 30 - 40 grams of carbs each meal.

I just at 2 Rye Crispbreads at only 6.7 grams of carbs each, a thin spread of soft goats cheese on each, 1 tomato and 4 slices of cucumber. Would you say that is sufficient to have at lunch time alone with a cup of tea with milk and glass of water?

Many thanks for help.

I am type II, controlled with diet and exercise (no diabetes meds at this time)

 

[Kaylz]

It really is up to you how many carbs you have per meal and what works for you x

 

[Jodee]

Thanks Kaylz - I really thought it was a requirement to have carbs when its diet controlled

 

[Stitch147]

You will get lots of different responses to this one Jodee, there are some people that will have 40g of carbs in a day. I personally have between 100-150g of carbs a day, some times less. You have to find what works for you at the end of the day. Some people can tolerate carbs some cant. There isn't any one size fits all, unfortunately.

 

[Jodee]

Thanks Stitch, I guess a lot would depend on how active we are each day as well, what the body needs are.

 

[Stitch147]

Thanks Stitch, I guess a lot would depend on how active we are each day as well, what the body needs are.

Definitely. The best way to know is by testing, but a lot of gp's don't supply testing kits etc to type 2's.

 

[Jodee]

No I don't get the test kits. Its the strips apparently that are very expensive. I think only those on insulin are prescribed them.
x x

 

[Stitch147]

Im on medication that can cause hypo's so I do get them from my gp.

 

[pav]

When I did the EXPERT course the saying was to have 135g of carbs a day to feed the brain, this is now out dated and even some of the professionals have told me that the 135g of carbs is too many a day.

There appears to be a very different opinions even within the professionals which is the right way to go with carbs. If I was to have that amount of carbs a day i would be having bigger problems with my weight than I already have.

As Stitch has already said using a meter is the way forward, unfortunately many people can't get test strips on prescription, for those who feel that or want to self fund testing the SD code free meter is the most popular as the test strips are around £8 for a pot of 50.

If you want to self fund the meter and strips are available on the link below, remember to select the I am a diabetic option as this takes the VAT off and meter type option mmoll as thats' the UK measurement system

https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

 

[Derek Stubbs]

Yes, it's all down to your own body & how it reacts to carbs & exercise, they is no real guide for this, only testing will give you knowledge.

Everybody reacts differently.

I think a good idea is to reduce carbs completely, replace with fats & proteins & if your body can digest them properly, you should be fine.
If you feel very weak after trying this diet for a few weeks, then start adding in some slow release carbs & then monitor you Blood sugar & also
if you have more energy.
Some people just can't have excess sugars, but carbs are fine, provided you are fairly active.

It's all down to trial & error

 

[Jodee]

its good you can check Stitch 🙂

 

[Jodee]

When I did the EXPERT course the saying was to have 135g of carbs a day to feed the brain, this is now out dated and even some of the professionals have told me that the 135g of carbs is too many a day.

There appears to be a very different opinions even within the professionals which is the right way to go with carbs. If I was to have that amount of carbs a day i would be having bigger problems with my weight than I already have.

As Stitch has already said using a meter is the way forward, unfortunately many people can't get test strips on prescription, for those who feel that or want to self fund testing the SD code free meter is the most popular as the test strips are around £8 for a pot of 50.

If you want to self fund the meter and strips are available on the link below, remember to select the I am a diabetic option as this takes the VAT off and meter type option mmoll as thats' the UK measurement system

https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

Many Many thanks Pav

 

[Jodee]

Thanks Derek

 

[Martin Canty]

a requirement to have carbs

Absolutely not.... It's personal choice... The body can manufacture all the glucose the body needs without resorting to dietary carbs, something that the nutritionists ignore when dispensing dietary advice. How many carbs per meal/day is entirely up to you; personally I have gone down the Low Carb route as it works for me.

 

[Bill Stewardson]

Yes, it's all down to your own body & how it reacts to carbs & exercise, they is no real guide for this, only testing will give you knowledge.

Everybody reacts differently.

I think a good idea is to reduce carbs completely, replace with fats & proteins & if your body can digest them properly, you should be fine.
If you feel very weak after trying this diet for a few weeks, then start adding in some slow release carbs & then monitor you Blood sugar & also
if you have more energy.
Some people just can't have excess sugars, but carbs are fine, provided you are fairly active.

It's all down to trial & error

I need to take issue here, I removed carbs completely and it made me ill, sure it reduced my numbers, I am NOT giving instructions here just an example. Maybe such large steps should be taken by degree.

TEST TEST TEST TEST

 

[Derek Stubbs]

I need to take issue here, I removed carbs completely and it made me ill, sure it reduced my numbers, I am NOT giving instructions here just an example. Maybe such large steps should be taken by degree.

TEST TEST TEST TEST

This is what I mean Bill, try it, if it doesn't work, add more carbs back until you reach an energy level you are happy with along with good testing numbers.

I personally believe I am better with more carbs rather than none, as long as I stay active.

It always says on food the average needed per day is 260g, now that is for non diabetic.

I have been doing less than 50g & felt quite weak despite increasing fats & proteins, although I am waiting for tests on my pancreas as it doesn't seem to like to digest fats.

So, I am now trying somewhere between 50-100g of carbs per day concentrating on the slower release carbs, & I am a little less tired but it all takes time for the body to get used to changes.

Before being diagnosed in April T2, I would estimate I was eating around the average of 260g, but on top I was eating quite a lot of sugary sweet things, which probably made the 260g, more like 500g.

 

[Sally71]

There's no doubt that the carbs you eat make your blood sugar go up, and therefore the less carbs you eat the easier it is to control the blood sugar. But you have to find a level that you are able to sustain long term, and changes that are too drastic can be bad for you. There's no point having perfect blood sugars all the time if you are utterly miserable. So maybe the best plan is to reduce the carbs gradually, and maybe balance the carbs that you do eat with some exercise, and see how it goes. You won't know how well you are doing unless you can test though, any doctor who says that you don't need to test unless you are on insulin is an idiot!

 

[Paula68]

I make my own granary bread. 1 level desrtspn salt, 150g strong white bread flour, 350g granary flour, 14g yeast, 60 ml olive oil just under 300ml warm water. my partner loves it. so do I but how can I judge how many carbs are in this 2lb loaf of bread.

 

[Martin Canty]

judge how many carbs are in this 2lb loaf of bread.

Total the carbs in each of the components and then divide by the number of slices you expect to yield. Should get you in the ballpark.

 

[Lydia1960]

Think I've been overloading on carbs. Just went and ordered the SD codefree meter and strips so now I can take more control over my condition. Not realised just how serious this disease is. The doctors haven't really given me any advice on this. Been left to seek out information..