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Doughnut eaters should pay for their prescriptions says tory MP (Type 2)

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Will they also charge heavy smokers, excessive drinkers, people who get in fights, lazy people, people who get bowel cancer through unhealthy diets....... the list is endless, WHY always pick on fat people and diabetics? There are plenty of illnesses people develop because of their lifestyle choices, will they be asked to pay too? And don't get me started on the junkies......................

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How does he have the time to represent his constituents and be a GP?

If I was in a better frame of mind I'd almost feel sorry for Nadine Dorries.
 
But but but....... You were all saying doctors are right when they contradict conservative policy, make your minds up lol:D
 
They failed with the pasty tax, I doubt they could make a doughnut tax stick :D
 
ypauly said:
But but but....... You were all saying doctors are right when they contradict conservative policy, make your minds up lol:D
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I'd feel just as outraged if Philip Lee was a Labour MP.

Incidentally, I paid a little visit to the GMC website and their Licensed Mediacal Practitioners Page.

Now, dear old Phil is the same age as me - 42 years.

He first studied anthropology at London Uni, then stayed on to take a Postgraduate degree.

Having had his studies subsidised by donut scoffing lardarses he decides to stay a school a little longer.

Six years longer in fact, while he studies medicine.

The age most medical students graduate at is 24 years. Note Phil was a spritely 29 years.

In fact Phil did not even qualify as a GP until he was 36 years old.

I hardly think this perpetual student has any right to tell the rest of us how to live our lives.

Please don't take this the wrong way. I don't begrudge anyone an education, after all I had a decent one. It's just people of my age, including Dr Lee, should be aware that it was a lifestyle choice paid for by people who didn't get that opportunity, just as diabetes drugs are being subsidised by the fit and healthy.

Rant over.
 
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I wonder how long he spent learning about diabetes? 🙄

Well said Nicky 🙂
 
I wasn't getting at Phillip Lee because of the colour of his rosette ...

I agree with you, the prevention and treatment of diabetes (of any persuation) shouldn't be a political football, which it has been.

My gripe with Dr Lee is that he made of lifestyle choice of taking 18 years to reach his vocation (medicine), funded by the taxpayer (i) some of whom would never make it to Uni in a million years and (ii) includes people whose lifestyles choice is one he chooses to criticise.

I forget what it costs to train a doctor but given the short period of time Dr Lee felt he should give over to the profession, surely even Ypauly must agree he is taking the ****.
 
The thing is though Paul, that it doesn't save money to provide poor care - it costs considerably more. 80% of the cost of treating diabetes is in treating complications. :(
 
The anger against Phillip Lee was never about which political party he belong to but against what he had said, when you make statements that type 2 diabetes is down to 'lifestyle choices' and that people beforehand were eating 'doughnuts for breakfast' you do have to question his ability to be a practising GP.
 
With the average numbers of diabetics in the population there has to be some MPs who are. Where are they - why aren't they talking for the rest of us. Bearing in mind that most ministers do not write/research their own speeches they are done by civil servants then almost certainly in his own department there will also be diabetics. Are they all so scared of losing their jobs if they speak out.
 
The thing that gets on my wick is, if you see a young chap who's lost a leg or both, you know there are many reasons why that could have happened, one of which might be that he went out with his mates, got nissed as a pewt and he then drove his car into a tree.

But the next bloke to him also in a wheelchair could have been got at by the Taliban.

I don't know what the majority is, accident or lifestyle choice?

You don't see people reviling all amputees because of the lifestyle choices of some of their band, do you?
 
I hope this doesn't detract from the message that some type 2's can do a lot for themselves if they DO alter their lifestyle.

If someone is diagnosed with type 2 and is overweight, the single best thing that they can do for themselves is to lose the weight. I know it's easier to say than do, but that doesn't make it any less true.

Idiots like this MP appears to be don't help!
 
ypauly said:
. Thepoint of my posts above was to try and stop the pre-occupation with the "tory" headline as even the shadow health secretary believes type 2 diabetes is a lifestyle disease. lol

The original interview with The Dr, I watched most of that and maybe it has been edited out but I didn't hear doughnuts mentioned. http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/tory-mp-says-diabetic-sufferers-should.html
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There is no "pre-occupation" with a "tory headline". Nobody is bothered which party this MP belongs to just that he is a Doctor with radical opinions.
You have introduced the party political dimension to this thread.

As for the doughnuts it WAS in his original speech ...

"Patients with diseases caused by their lifestyle must pay for health care, a Tory MP urged yesterday.

Dr Phillip Lee said sufferers of type 2 diabetes and similar illnesses should lose their right to free prescriptions to save the NHS from collapse, the Daily Mirror reported.

He told an Institute of Economic Affairs briefing: “If you want to have doughnuts for breakfast, fine, but there is a cost implication down the line.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dr-phillip-lee-conservative-mp-1458840

His siuggestion that Doctors surgeries might dispense some prescriptions actually deserves discussion - if something like metformin is prescribed why shouldn't it just come out the cupboard at the surgery ?
 
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Ggrrrrrhhhhh...........😡:(😡😡
 
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