Does meat cause diabetes?

[Satan’s little helper]

Don't get it mate sorry.

Not to worry. My impression whilst watching “what the health” was is this a spoof? I’m familiar with the “Jackass” prank & stunt crew. The show used to be on getting back from a night out. When he popped up to give soundbites on what the health. I thought they were tipping a wink that the film was a dead pan wind up. Even the presenter seemed monotone & disinterested? Though Diane Morgan does satire better with her character, “Philomena Cunk.”

 

[Inka]

Thanks @Eddy Edson The title of this thread is too short IMO. Having a burger won’t suddenly give anyone diabetes. However, people who eat meat are at increased risk of developing diabetes as a number of studies have concluded, eg. this recent one:

https://ajcn.nutrition.org/article/S0002-9165(23)66119-2/abstract

Eating more whole food plant-based meals is a sensible option IMO. I’m not vegan but I do think the scorn and mockery poured on vegans is wrong.

 

[Dragonheart]

Thanks @Eddy Edson The title of this thread is too short IMO. Having a burger won’t suddenly give anyone diabetes. However, people who eat meat aren’t increased risk of developing diabetes as a number of studies have concluded, eg. this recent one:

https://ajcn.nutrition.org/article/S0002-9165(23)66119-2/abstract

Eating more whole food plant-based meals is a sensible option IMO. I’m not vegan but I do think the scorn and mockery poured on vegans is wrong.

I have no scorn or mockery for choosing a diet that fits your personal ethics. I do for some of the fantastical justifications that are used in the evangelical attempt to convince others to do likewise.

I also have family that choose to be vegetarian, vegan or pescatarian. They do it for taste preferences, religious or morality based reasons not cherry picked “science”

 

[Inka]

My comment wasn’t aimed at you @Dragonheart 🙂

 

[Inka]

I wonder if that was intended to read "My comment wasn't aimed at you @Dragonheart"

Otherwise it sounds a but harsh!

Thanks @rebrascora ! Yes, it was meant to read that! Just corrected it!

 

[Dragonheart]

Thanks @rebrascora ! Yes, it was meant to read that! Just corrected it!

It’s ok. I only saw it after the amendment.

 

[beating_my_betes]

Potatoes make you fat,

They don't

Meat makes you fat

It doesn't

Obesity causes type 2 diabetes but even thin people can have insulin resistance and get it.

Roy Taylor has presented a very compelling idea that we each have a personal fat threshold, related to the amount of fat that can be stored naturally and in the natural places. What differs between people is where this threshold ends and where fat starts to be stored ectopically i.e where it shouldn't be e.g liver, where it contributes to insulin-resistance. Fo some it can take being hugely overweight before fat gets stored where it shoudn't be, but it seems to work the other way also. This explains why even those who are not visibly overweight can begin to store fat in the liver etc. They would just seem to have their threshold at a much lower level of excess fat...or so the theory goes.

Are we fat because our bodies don't work so well so it's harder to be active and as we are hungry we are more likely to eat quick and easy meals?

This is a much deeper and very nuanced conversation to have. Perhaps in a another thread.

I think it's all about not blaming

Perhaps it feels like that, and in some cases maybe it is. But we are all constantly learning about this and other health issues, and how much we should be expected to control vs how much we learn about why control, in many circumstances, is seemingly impossible.

 

[Nayshiftin]

They don't

It doesn't

Roy Taylor has presented a very compelling idea that we each have a personal fat threshold, related to the amount of fat that can be stored naturally and in the natural places. What differs between people is where this threshold ends and where fat starts to be stored ectopically i.e where it shouldn't be e.g liver, where it contributes to insulin-resistance. Fo some it can take being hugely overweight before fat gets stored where it shoudn't be, but it seems to work the other way also. This explains why even those who are not visibly overweight can begin to store fat in the liver etc. They would just seem to have their threshold at a much lower level of excess fat...or so the theory goes.

This is a much deeper and very nuanced conversation to have. Perhaps in a another thread.

Perhaps it feels like that, and in some cases maybe it is. But we are all constantly learning about this and other health issues, and how much we should be expected to control vs how much we learn about why control, in many circumstances, is seemingly impossible.

Yes you take it so literally beat someone else up.

 

[beating_my_betes]

Yes you take it so literally beat someone else up.

Not sure what I said that has made you react this way. I certainly am not trying to beat anybody.