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It sounds like a big improvement, which is very welcome, but I'm still not holding my breath as I doubt the quality of life improvements I gain from the sensors will be a determining factor in prescribing 🙄

Also, can you imagine how helpful this would be as part of a new treatment approach for people with Type 2, to help educate them about their food tolerances? It would be a major step forward, and probably generate a lot more compliance if people didn't have to prick their fingers several times a day 🙂
 
It should at least be all new diagnosed Type 1's. As part of the basic set up.

I don't want a pump, I never have. I've read the requirements and I think I fit now, without the pump. Keep changing these goalposts.
 
This is excellent news, but I know that it will not mean that everyone who asks will get them.

The criteria I have looked at certainly don’t require anyone to be on a pump.
If anything I think you are less likely to get one if on a pump, as we still need to use quite a few test strips to talk to the pump.

One thing is sure that people won’t get these if they don’t ask.
 
Great news if your type 1, im on the same regime as type 1, but being type 2 my control is less important rant over
 
At least it is progress, any progress made will be small tiny steps. At least it is moving now 🙂 (and before anyone tries to have a pop, I've been self funding the libre for the last 2 years and am considerably poorer for it! - just think we need to appreciate the movement in the right direction!)
 
The Libre isn’t an automatic door to better diabetes control, any more then blood testing strips. It’s a bit of kit that spares you fingerpicking, unless you are capable of acting on the information it provides. Some are, some aren’t. The same argument applies to pumps.
 
Sprogladite said:
At least it is progress, any progress made will be small tiny steps. At least it is moving now 🙂 (and before anyone tries to have a pop, I've been self funding the libre for the last 2 years and am considerably poorer for it! - just think we need to appreciate the movement in the right direction!)
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I think your right. I assume it was the same when meters came out ( or any new bit of kit). My GP told me to go out and buy a meter, whereas later on I was just handed a new one at the hospital clinic.
 
mikeyB said:
The Libre isn’t an automatic door to better diabetes control, any more then blood testing strips. It’s a bit of kit that spares you fingerpicking, unless you are capable of acting on the information it provides. Some are, some aren’t. The same argument applies to pumps.
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Yes, but if they’d applied the same argument to meters, or insulin pens, 75% of us on here would still be boiling up our wee every morning and sharpening our syringe needle.
 
Sprogladite said:
At least it is progress, any progress made will be small tiny steps. At least it is moving now 🙂 (and before anyone tries to have a pop, I've been self funding the libre for the last 2 years and am considerably poorer for it! - just think we need to appreciate the movement in the right direction!)
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I tried to self fund, wouldn't sell me one, was having issues existing customers only
 
Ingressus said:
I tried to self fund, wouldn't sell me one, was having issues existing customers only
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I have been on list since September.
Many are saying on Facebook they don't think they will meet the criteria. Some of the reporting failed to mention the need to meet criteria.
 
Robin said:
Yes, but if they’d applied the same argument to meters, or insulin pens, 75% of us on here would still be boiling up our wee every morning and sharpening our syringe needle.
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Indeed, but those changes were relatively cheap. And we are a highly selected bunch, aren’t we? I can think of lots of folk on here who would benefit from the Libre, and I hope this relaxation will fix that. But diabetes is indiscriminate, there are some folk who couldn’t cope with the technology.
 
mikeyB said:
Indeed, but those changes were relatively cheap. And we are a highly selected bunch, aren’t we? I can think of lots of folk on here who would benefit from the Libre, and I hope this relaxation will fix that. But diabetes is indiscriminate, there are some folk who couldn’t cope with the technology.
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Some seem to be saying the criteria is training, and to prevent people needing pumps.
 
mikeyB said:
Indeed, but those changes were relatively cheap. And we are a highly selected bunch, aren’t we? I can think of lots of folk on here who would benefit from the Libre, and I hope this relaxation will fix that. But diabetes is indiscriminate, there are some folk who couldn’t cope with the technology.
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But for the people who would use it properly and benefit? I was just having a discussion with OH on this very point, about my Libre use. Is it essential, or does it just contribute to the smoother running of my life? Do I need to avoid the peaks and troughs that contributed to my good HbA1c, or will it help avoid complications? Do I need to be able to head off a hypo when I’m out for a long walk or should I just wait for hypo symptoms to appear, treat it, and hope I don’t lose awareness further down the line. I don’t know. The answers will probably only appear in 20 years time, which is of no concern to the bean counters now. Short answer is, with my current CCG criteria, I wouldn’t get it.
 
grovesy said:
Some seem to be saying the criteria is training, and to prevent people needing pumps.
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One of the criteria for getting it in our area is, if it would prevent the need for a pump. The reasoning being that it is cheaper than a pump!
 
Robin said:
But for the people who would use it properly and benefit? I was just having a discussion with OH on this very point, about my Libre use. Is it essential, or does it just contribute to the smoother running of my life? Do I need to avoid the peaks and troughs that contributed to my good HbA1c, or will it help avoid complications? Do I need to be able to head off a hypo when I’m out for a long walk or should I just wait for hypo symptoms to appear, treat it, and hope I don’t lose awareness further down the line. I don’t know. The answers will probably only appear in 20 years time, which is of no concern to the bean counters now. Short answer is, with my current CCG criteria, I wouldn’t get it.
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I'm in the same boat @Robin, but it really helps me with pre-empting hypos, insulin dose adjustments and timing, and overall quality of life. I won't hold my breath, but at least many more should now get them.
 
Robin said:
One of the criteria for getting it in our area is, if it would prevent the need for a pump. The reasoning being that it is cheaper than a pump!
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Another criterion is that the patient is likely to save 8 or more test strips a day. (At £15 for 50 (apparently the cost of Freestyle Optium test strips, which aren't the cheapest), 8-9 a day is the crossover.)

(They don't recommend using just the Libre for adjusting insulin. The Reader has a bolus calculator which just doesn't work without test strips.)
 
I use 4 test strips a day and quite happy to continue using them until told to change over to this new regime. I will let you all have one first.
 
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