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diabete,breastfeeding and formula milk

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grahams mum

grahams mum

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hi everybody one of my friend just had a baby and she told me that in one of the leafleat given at the hospital was saying that if you breastfeed there is less chances to developed diabetes in children so they suggest to not use formula as easy option so when she asked me what i thought i was hangry and upset because i didnot have any milk and my son end u😡p in special care unit and i have to start using formula what is your view on this?
 
grahams mum said:
hi everybody one of my friend just had a baby and she told me that in one of the leafleat given at the hospital was saying that if you breastfeed there is less chances to developed diabetes in children so they suggest to not use formula as easy option so when she asked me what i thought i was hangry and upset because i didnot have any milk and my son end u😡p in special care unit and i have to start using formula what is your view on this?
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Oh my goodness, what a horrible thing to be told, no wonder you feel upset. Given that they don't really know what causes diabetes in most cases, I'd be very surprised if there was anything more that anecdotal evidence to back the leaflet up. It's easy enough to say but please try not to be upset by it, there is so much still to learn about diabetes that I'd be surprised if there is anything more than some anecdotal evidence to back up any of these claims. Sadly the research seems to show that some people will be predisposed to developing diabetes and is made up of so many different factors that general statements like that aren't helpful to anyone.

I've had a little google on the subject and the only information I can seem to find is some very small studies suggesting breast fed babies may be less likely to become obese, which then may lower the risk of developing type 2 diabetes, and then there seems to be some question as to whether that is a medical reaction, or and extension of behavoural/environmental factors, very tenuous if you ask me!
 
Hi grahams mum,
Firstly please don't blame yourself.. I to could not breastfeed Nathan and he also ended up it special care, and was fed on formula. At now time when he was diagnosed did anyone suggest that because I never breast fed was a factor in him developing type1.. There are other major contributing factors such as Genetics, Environmental, Virus, Predisposition etc, of which I am sure you are already aware.
I also have a friend who is type 1, had 3 children, never breast fed..and as of now non are diabetic.
Hope this helps
Heidi
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Well, I was breast fed as a baby and I developed Type 1 later in life. I am sure there must be huge numbers of Type 1s who were breast fed, so the argument doesn't stand up. As others have said, there are many factors and you should never blame yourself for things beyond your control.
 
I'm the same as Norhterner. I was breastfed, and I've only JUST been diagnosed with Type 1. I have the feeling that since they don't know for definite what causes diabetes, they can say that just about anything COULD cause it.
 
i was breast fed and not long diagnosed
 
I was breast fed and diagnosed three years ago. My father and one of my uncles are of a generation where there were not too many other options than breast feeding and they are both diabetic. My husband was on formula milk and has osteoarthririts. If your going to become diabetic, i think you will no matter how you were fed as a baby.
 
As Graham's Mum said, the leaflet said "that if you breastfeed there is less chance to develop[ed] diabetes in children" . It doesn't say that if you breastfeed, your child definitely won't get diabetes (presumably they mean type 1, as they say "in children"), and by extrapolation, it doesn't mean that if you bottlefeed, your child will definitely get diabetes. However, it's fair to give women the information about all the possible advantages regarding breast feeding - that breast fed babies are less likely to develop diabetes. There will always be some women for whom breast feeding is not suitable.

Like many health stories, it's about changing the chances of an outcome. One of the strongest correlations is between smoking and lung cancer, but while the majority of people who get lung cancer are or have been smokers, there are some people who have never smoked who develop lung cancer, and there are some people who smoke who don't get lung cancer. Similarly, the majority (about 80%) of adults who develop type 2 diabetes are overweight at time of diagnosis, but not all overweight people get T2D, and not all people who get T2D are overweight. But, not being overweight greatly reduces you chances of getting T2D.
 
Posted a link on "in the News" about the IDF's special issue of women and diabetes magazine. Contains a number of articles on pre-conception and pregnancy that are relevant to this thread. Also seems to be some links between gestational diabetes and the risks of the baby developing Type 2 diabetes later in life

Fortunately we live in an age when alternatives to breast milk are available for those who are unable to breast feed for whatever reason. All of our choices have risks associated with them - we simply make the best decision we can that the time and circumstances allow - and health care publicity should be taken with a health warning of its own!

Yep - I'm definitely having a grump today!
 
grahams mum said:
hi everybody one of my friend just had a baby and she told me that in one of the leafleat given at the hospital was saying that if you breastfeed there is less chances to developed diabetes in children so they suggest to not use formula as easy option so when she asked me what i thought i was hangry and upset because i didnot have any milk and my son end u😡p in special care unit and i have to start using formula what is your view on this?
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I have heard this before, but there's a general view that breast is best, because that's what it's intended for, but what's far more impoirtant is the relaionship with, and love you have for your child. I was also breast-fed and was dignosed Type 1, 2 years ago. As others have also said, we are lucky in the West to have formula which many a healthy babuy has grown up on. So, don't feel bad at all. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason about what happens in life. Enjoy your time with Graham and don't let how you feed him interfere with this.
 
Hubby who is home at the moment loves his news. He was watching yesterday and said there was a piece about how more children are being diagnosed as type one and all the proffessionals are getting worried and looking for a link. Sorry I don't know too many details, but it is probably on the BBC website.
 
Child pverty

Sorry this subject in the uk really angers me!!!!
I am type 1 was breast fed and still got it.
Child poverty should not exsist here we have a welfare state that provides support it just means where people spend there money and anyone working will now it is hard to make ends meet but we have to give up our luxurys to support the children in our family. my mum ate 1 meal a day to ensure i and my sister had all we could need for eg food clothes and love. toys came at christmas and birthdays and we had a holiday every year, through her sacrificing herself for us after our dad died
 
tracyp said:
Sorry this subject in the uk really angers me!!!!
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I understand what you're saying Tracy, and I'm sure most parents at some time have had to give up luxuries to support their children. Your mother sounds like a strong person, and I have every respect for her, but she should not have to give up her meals, which are not luxuries. I guess I believe we all, not just parents, have a commitment to our future generations. I am only too well aware through my work, of how poverty can affect children, particularly where their parents are not as resourceful or as strong as your mother. I just think its a crime in a society that has a small group at the top growing ever richer while young families strive to make ends meet at the other extreme. We don't value children and families enough in this country, and after all, its the youth of today who will be providing our health services and home care in the future!

Looks like it's my turn to rant today - nothing personal Tracy!
 
tracyp said:
Sorry this subject in the uk really angers me!!!!
I am type 1 was breast fed and still got it.
Child poverty should not exsist here we have a welfare state that provides support it just means where people spend there money and anyone working will now it is hard to make ends meet but we have to give up our luxurys to support the children in our family. my mum ate 1 meal a day to ensure i and my sister had all we could need for eg food clothes and love. toys came at christmas and birthdays and we had a holiday every year, through her sacrificing herself for us after our dad died
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Hi tracyp

I was'nt breastfed, neither was Nathan...he although has become Tpye1
I agree child poverty should not exist, but in reality it does, in some cases.
Yes there is a welfare state that provides support, and some people milk the system for all it is worth, even though they do not need such help or a on the fiddle.
This welfare state/DSS, also have tight restrictions in place that you are not allowed any extra other than what the state says you are....if you get some as 1p more than that it is immediately taken off you.
Unfortunately I am in such position that i rely on the state...which i wish i didnt have to...I was married to Nathans dad, but he walked out when Nathan was 5..we divorced a year later...I have also medical conditions that prevent me from working... through no fault of my own, I have found myself in this circumstance.
However, all things considered, I do as I'm sure most other parents would do in the same situation, I dont go out, we dont have holidays, I live on toast n cornflakes mostly so nathan can have the best food etc, he always has clean clothes etc, save all year for christmas so he dose'nt go without,
he is number 1 and always will be.
Despite this..I feel truly lucky for the things we have, roof over our head, basic things.....But more important to any child and that no amount of money can buy, is LOVE and to be proud of who we are and where we come from.

Heidi
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I was breastfed and still got diabetes but i think it's cause i had a virus a couple of years ago so i wouldn't blame yourself because it's not been proven
 
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