on the 15th jan i was diagnosed as diabetic..when i first went to dr. it was because i was depressed and feeling really terrible....she ran the blood tests on me and as i say it came back as diabeties..she said i could have had it for a while,,can i ask is this kind of feeling associated with diebeties ? or am i still suffering depression.?.i just cant shake the feeling..oh i have very high B.P.cholestrol..and am having heart tests...on top of that osteo arthritis...but apart from all that im gr8 lol...
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angel30eyes
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Depression
I have osteo arthritis and was very depressed and yes it is linked to the undiagnosed diabetes and once you get your sugars sorted you will find you aren't so angry/depressed, they reckon i was undiagnosed for 5 yrs or more and since going on insulin it has helped unless i am ill and my bs go too high and then i know becuase i start to feel ang and mad at the slightest thing, it does get better i promise
I have osteo arthritis and was very depressed and yes it is linked to the undiagnosed diabetes and once you get your sugars sorted you will find you aren't so angry/depressed, they reckon i was undiagnosed for 5 yrs or more and since going on insulin it has helped unless i am ill and my bs go too high and then i know becuase i start to feel ang and mad at the slightest thing, it does get better i promise
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Hi! depression unfortunately seems to be a running theme with diabetes, it does get you down sometimes, bt thats why these boards exist, so you can come and get support from people 🙂
Hi Jeannie. I was already suffering from depression when I was diagnosed T2 in Nov 08. Since then I have lost about half a stone in weight, and got my average blood-sugar levels down from 14 - 18, to between 8 - 11. I have been getting more exercise by borrowing a friends dogs, (had agoraphobic and panic attack problems).
I was starting to feel better after the initial shock of the diagnosis wore off (knocked me for six and really brought me down. Normal reaction I gather.). My practise Nurse and the Diabetic Nurse at the hospital had both said I was doing well and obviously trying my best. Even though I had not made dramatic differences, they praised me for making progress in the right direction. They boosted my mood and were very encouraging.
My Doctor has just destroyed all that. First gave me a hard time for not getting BG levels down lower and faster. Totally dismissed my protest that I thought the progress I've made with BG levels, weight, and exercise was fairly good. Not good enough apparently!! She then waded in about Cholesterol level being high. Turned out she was talking about a blood test taken in Nov 08., at the time my Diabetes was diagnosed. I protested that my changes in eating, exercise and weight might show a different figure now, and she grumpily arranged a new blood-test.
Then she started giving me a hard time about blood pressure! I don't have high blood pressure! I had a minor heart-attack in Nov 2005 (IMO caused by stress and no heart problem symptoms since). At the time the hospital sent me home on the minimum dose of a BP lowering drug, which has continued unchanged, and since then I have not registered a high BP figure.
By then I was starting to feel very pressured and almost bullied! So when she asked if I was still smoking (I am), I just rebelled and said something like " Are you surprised with hassle and pressure like this!!" She went ballistic! Started telling me all the stuff I already know (No need for any of you to tell me too, thank you). She asked if i wanted to die and I told her truthfully that I don't actually want to, but the way I feel about my life right now I don't really care much either way. What with trying to lose more weight, denying myself most of the foods I love (I am chocoholic), having to force myself to get out more when I really don't want to, I sometimes feel it's about the only pleasure I've got left.
So, here I am this morning, feeling very down, stressed and depressed. Smoking like a chimney. Having palpitations at the thought of going out. Feeling like having a cake binge (luckily none in the house). Back to square one.
Well done Doc!! Thanks a bunch for making me feel like this! Done me no end of good - NOT!!!!
I was starting to feel better after the initial shock of the diagnosis wore off (knocked me for six and really brought me down. Normal reaction I gather.). My practise Nurse and the Diabetic Nurse at the hospital had both said I was doing well and obviously trying my best. Even though I had not made dramatic differences, they praised me for making progress in the right direction. They boosted my mood and were very encouraging.
My Doctor has just destroyed all that. First gave me a hard time for not getting BG levels down lower and faster. Totally dismissed my protest that I thought the progress I've made with BG levels, weight, and exercise was fairly good. Not good enough apparently!! She then waded in about Cholesterol level being high. Turned out she was talking about a blood test taken in Nov 08., at the time my Diabetes was diagnosed. I protested that my changes in eating, exercise and weight might show a different figure now, and she grumpily arranged a new blood-test.
Then she started giving me a hard time about blood pressure! I don't have high blood pressure! I had a minor heart-attack in Nov 2005 (IMO caused by stress and no heart problem symptoms since). At the time the hospital sent me home on the minimum dose of a BP lowering drug, which has continued unchanged, and since then I have not registered a high BP figure.
By then I was starting to feel very pressured and almost bullied! So when she asked if I was still smoking (I am), I just rebelled and said something like " Are you surprised with hassle and pressure like this!!" She went ballistic! Started telling me all the stuff I already know (No need for any of you to tell me too, thank you). She asked if i wanted to die and I told her truthfully that I don't actually want to, but the way I feel about my life right now I don't really care much either way. What with trying to lose more weight, denying myself most of the foods I love (I am chocoholic), having to force myself to get out more when I really don't want to, I sometimes feel it's about the only pleasure I've got left.
So, here I am this morning, feeling very down, stressed and depressed. Smoking like a chimney. Having palpitations at the thought of going out. Feeling like having a cake binge (luckily none in the house). Back to square one.
Well done Doc!! Thanks a bunch for making me feel like this! Done me no end of good - NOT!!!!
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Hi Lynn,
Thought and typed various things, but I think all I can really say is STUNNED.
Best solution I find is to pick up the lead (dog attached at other end) put on wellies and coat and go for a good walk for a few hours - if I'm really in a bad mood the pipe comes with me! Oooh did I say that!
Dogs are the best listeners and usually the answer or peace comes from being with them!
David
Thought and typed various things, but I think all I can really say is STUNNED.
Best solution I find is to pick up the lead (dog attached at other end) put on wellies and coat and go for a good walk for a few hours - if I'm really in a bad mood the pipe comes with me! Oooh did I say that!
Dogs are the best listeners and usually the answer or peace comes from being with them!
David
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Hi Lynn,
All the advice in the world says try to change things one at a time to give yourself the best chance of succeeding so sounds like youve made a bloody good start to me! I should think trying to quit smoking on top of all the other changes youve implemented would have made it all seem impossible.
I think doctors can forget that there is a person behind the condition sometimes and we are more than just a list of blood results!
Keep it up and dont let one persons appauling insensitivity ruin all your hard work 🙂
All the advice in the world says try to change things one at a time to give yourself the best chance of succeeding so sounds like youve made a bloody good start to me! I should think trying to quit smoking on top of all the other changes youve implemented would have made it all seem impossible.
I think doctors can forget that there is a person behind the condition sometimes and we are more than just a list of blood results!
Keep it up and dont let one persons appauling insensitivity ruin all your hard work 🙂
Thank you Viki and Einstein. Nice to have people agree that she is a po-faced dragon of the first order!
Forgot to mention that her parting shot was that my outburst would seem to indicate that my anti-depressants are not working and the next thing to address will be a change to that medication! I think they must be working ok or I would not just have been pi**ed-off, I would have dissolved into a tearful heap on the floor!!!!!
Forgot to mention that her parting shot was that my outburst would seem to indicate that my anti-depressants are not working and the next thing to address will be a change to that medication! I think they must be working ok or I would not just have been pi**ed-off, I would have dissolved into a tearful heap on the floor!!!!!
Hi Lynn
I had a doctor like that. I went originally to get some antidepressants or maybe counselling since I was going through a lot of stress in my life. The doctor immediately started on me in the way you describe. By the end I was in floods of tears and incoherent. She told me to leave as I had exceeded the appointment time. Nobody from the practice helped me, it was left to another patient in the waiting room to console me. It makes me so angry thinking about it, i don't know where doctors get off treating people like this or how they expect it will help. I have some idea why it is though. On my DAFNE course doctors were talked of like minor deities. Whenever we had a question the nurses acted like they, with their experience, and we with years of living with diabetes, could not answer it, only the doctor knew the answers. The doctor graced us with her prescence for about half an hour in the whole week. If I have a problem I always ask my dietitian or nurse, I would never ask a doctor. I usually see the doctor for five minutes annually, I know the nurse and dietitian much better and they know me too.
I wish there was some way of simulating the experience of diabetes so these doctors know what it feels like and how hard it is to control sometimes. I think it would help for them to see things from our perspective.
I had a doctor like that. I went originally to get some antidepressants or maybe counselling since I was going through a lot of stress in my life. The doctor immediately started on me in the way you describe. By the end I was in floods of tears and incoherent. She told me to leave as I had exceeded the appointment time. Nobody from the practice helped me, it was left to another patient in the waiting room to console me. It makes me so angry thinking about it, i don't know where doctors get off treating people like this or how they expect it will help. I have some idea why it is though. On my DAFNE course doctors were talked of like minor deities. Whenever we had a question the nurses acted like they, with their experience, and we with years of living with diabetes, could not answer it, only the doctor knew the answers. The doctor graced us with her prescence for about half an hour in the whole week. If I have a problem I always ask my dietitian or nurse, I would never ask a doctor. I usually see the doctor for five minutes annually, I know the nurse and dietitian much better and they know me too.
I wish there was some way of simulating the experience of diabetes so these doctors know what it feels like and how hard it is to control sometimes. I think it would help for them to see things from our perspective.
Anthony Neve
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change your doctor! no one has to be treated like that! if they are incapable of doing their job properly, then demand to see someone else, at another practice if need be.
I think docs do just see stats sometimes, forgetting about the person- but then the doc isnt a diabetic and so doesnt realise the effects of the condition. yeah they can read about it in a book but so what?
find another doctor, your more important than the crap their giving you!
I think docs do just see stats sometimes, forgetting about the person- but then the doc isnt a diabetic and so doesnt realise the effects of the condition. yeah they can read about it in a book but so what?
find another doctor, your more important than the crap their giving you!
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