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What type of full fat yoghurt did you have? You need to read the labels and look for Natural unsweetened yoghurt. If it was a full fat, fruit or vanilla yoghurt it may well have had added or natural sugars from the fruit. Many of us here buy Milbona Creamy Greek yoghurt from Lidl. It comes in a litre bucket and only has 3.2g per 100g carbs. This is the lowest carb content yoghurt I have found so far and tastes yum!
It is very easy to make the wrong assumptions because carbs and calories and no added sugar etc are all very confusing.
Full fat milk actually has slightly less carbohydrates than skimmed or semi skimmed because fat does not contain carbohydrates and it is the fat which is skimmed off, so the less fat there is the higher the percentage of carbs and vice versa. Same with natural yoghurt. Once you buy anything which is flavoured (even with natural fruit) or has ingredients other than just milk, will have more carbs. Low fat natural yoghurt has more carbohydrates than creamy natural yoghurt.
It was full fat natural Greek yogurt, from Muller. I didn't keep the packaging so don't know what else was in it. I have a Lidl right by the pool where I go to Aquafit, so I'll look out for it. Perhaps just a small pot first and check the before and after readings. But at the moment it seems that I'm best sticking to just protein, leafy green veggies, salads, and home made thin soups. Everything I try seems to come with a "you shouldn't have put that in" attached to it. I stopped adding potato, pasta and starchy veggies to my home made turkey mince, soups and stews, having beans like haricot instead (thinking they contained protein), only to be told they too were full of carbs and to leave them out. If there was a suitable brick wall nearby, I'd bang my head against it!!! No doubt in a few months all will be under control and I'll wonder why I struggled.
Next time somebody tells you that "you shouldn't have put that in" tell them to go away because they are not being helpful. They key for me is keeping total cabohydrate under control so potato, starchy veg are OK but in smaller quantities than I used to have. Wheat flour based products are bad for me so those I avoid as much as possible but it maybe that you can get away with thin sliced lower carb bread, just don't eat doorsteps! Check packaging all the time. You will be amazed how much total carbohydrate varies for products that you might expect to be the same. Yoghourts are a right nightmare from that point of view. Ignore the big writing on the front of the packet, the only thing worth reading is the nutrition label on the back.
I target a total carb per day, and it is a target not a requirement, and I don't worry too much about where they come from. I just work on the idea that if I have something a bit carby then I have got to watch other things. Best example I can give is my chippie tea. I get a battered fish (lots of carbs from the batter) but have got the chippie to understand that I don't want a pile of chips (far too many carbs) and get him to give me a very small portion. Back at home I have some coleslaw and tartare sauce ready to eat with it. Fish and chips without hitting double figures, and, as an added bonus, smaller portions of chips don't go all soggy like big portions do.
Ironically the unhelpful person was my appointed training course dietician who I am sorry to say gave me such weird advice, I simply have no trust or confidence in her. She was the one to tell me never to have fruit of any kind with meals (including tomatoes), not to eat cereals (loaded with carbs), and not to take 2 of my GP prescribed items (loaded with sugar and media hype). I have been targeting a total carb of less than 90gm a day, and seem to be coming in around 75gm. But so far my monitoring suggests I spike to all carbs - even 2 small new potatoes caused a 3.5 rise. So the one bit of advice I am trying to stick to is to be very strict for 6 months and see how I've done.
I aim for 10-20g of carbs a day, I have plenty of stored fuel for energy . This has brought my BG right down to 4s and a few 5s 🙂 from HbA1c 86 mmol/mol (which is about 13.3 equivalent).
In my mind the theory is simple, carbs = glucose = BG level = Insulin production. Basically stopping carbs will lower BG levels which lowers Insulin levels and force my body to use stored fat instead.
Obviously putting it into practice is not necessarily easy . Dam you carbs, how I miss you! 😉
Ironically the unhelpful person was my appointed training course dietician who I am sorry to say gave me such weird advice, I simply have no trust or confidence in her. She was the one to tell me never to have fruit of any kind with meals (including tomatoes), not to eat cereals (loaded with carbs), and not to take 2 of my GP prescribed items (loaded with sugar and media hype). I have been targeting a total carb of less than 90gm a day, and seem to be coming in around 75gm. But so far my monitoring suggests I spike to all carbs - even 2 small new potatoes caused a 3.5 rise. So the one bit of advice I am trying to stick to is to be very strict for 6 months and see how I've done.
Great Felinia on two counts. First you are treating what you are told as advice rather than instruction. Second, you have got a plan. Important thing is that it is your plan and because of that, the chances of sticking to it are really good.
A little anecdote.... When I went to University (in the days when you went there to learn) I went into a Hall of Residence and on the first evening the newbies were addressed by the warden - a scotsman called Willy Neil. I can remember most of what he said because he did not say much. He simply referred to the list of hall rules and then said... "As far as I am concerned, rules are for the obeyance of fools but the guidence of wise men. I trust you are all wise men."
I aim for 10-20g of carbs a day, I have plenty of stored fuel for energy . This has brought my BG right down to 4s and a few 5s 🙂 from HbA1c 86 mmol/mol (which is about 13.3 equivalent).
In my mind the theory is simple, carbs = glucose = BG level = Insulin production. Basically stopping carbs will lower BG levels which lowers Insulin levels and force my body to use stored fat instead.
Obviously putting it into practice is not necessarily easy . Dam you carbs, how I miss you! 😉
I don't know how you do it!! Even a simple salad is more than 10gm carbs, as is my home made soup, my evening meal veggies and even my daily dairy. I thought I was doing well when I keep them between 60gm and 75gm each day. We must eat very differently, but I do have to have at least 30gm fibre for my Diverticular Disease.
Fibre doesn't automatically mean eating more digestible carbohydrate - you could add psyllium husk or flour to the salad - I find that adding it to water means that half of it is left behind in the glass glued to the sides.
The carbs from dairy are normally very low - and for things like soup I blend rather than thicken with starch.
I don't know how you do it!! Even a simple salad is more than 10gm carbs, as is my home made soup, my evening meal veggies and even my daily dairy. I thought I was doing well when I keep them between 60gm and 75gm each day. We must eat very differently, but I do have to have at least 30gm fibre for my Diverticular Disease.
Firstly I am lucky in that the only other issue is high blood pressure which I have meds and is likely to be related to being over weight etc. Having to deal with other issues will make things harder, I am sure.
Still waiting on liver scan results but again any issues are likely to be related to what I have done to myself bringing me to this diabetes place.
I have gone higher on carbs on a few days - but not high. I believe its better to have say 5 days super low then 2 days low. Partly depends on how hungry I feel and also what I have been cooking for the kids.
I am also going crazy low on calories (but not counting), no snacks of any type and keeping my coffee (my main source of carbs) to meal times only, even if 1 or 2 coffee is my meal.
Pretty much the only thing I eat - Eggs (boil up a bunch so can just have 1 or 2 if I am hungry at meal time), Chicken (cook up a bunch chicken breast so I have some to grab when I need), Bacon, Salmon, Tuna, Mushrooms.
Just had a piece of salmon with fried egg for lunch and now following that with a coffee - was very nice.
I don't have a set rigid plan, depends how I feel at the time.
Whilst it's not been totally easy, I had a shockingly bad diet before and I have adapted it by basically dropping almost all the carbs i previously had (90% which were really bad ones) and then keeping the other bits down. So far 4 weeks in BGs are looking very good and lost 17lbs.
We all must do what works for us and always interesting reading what others are doing which some times inspires us and some times we think omg I could never do that!😉
Fibre doesn't automatically mean eating more digestible carbohydrate - you could add psyllium husk or flour to the salad - I find that adding it to water means that half of it is left behind in the glass glued to the sides.
The carbs from dairy are normally very low - and for things like soup I blend rather than thicken with starch.
Firstly I am lucky in that the only other issue is high blood pressure which I have meds and is likely to be related to being over weight etc. Having to deal with other issues will make things harder, I am sure.
Still waiting on liver scan results but again any issues are likely to be related to what I have done to myself bringing me to this diabetes place.
I have gone higher on carbs on a few days - but not high. I believe its better to have say 5 days super low then 2 days low. Partly depends on how hungry I feel and also what I have been cooking for the kids.
I am also going crazy low on calories (but not counting), no snacks of any type and keeping my coffee (my main source of carbs) to meal times only, even if 1 or 2 coffee is my meal.
Pretty much the only thing I eat - Eggs (boil up a bunch so can just have 1 or 2 if I am hungry at meal time), Chicken (cook up a bunch chicken breast so I have some to grab when I need), Bacon, Salmon, Tuna, Mushrooms.
Just had a piece of salmon with fried egg for lunch and now following that with a coffee - was very nice.
I don't have a set rigid plan, depends how I feel at the time.
Whilst it's not been totally easy, I had a shockingly bad diet before and I have adapted it by basically dropping almost all the carbs i previously had (90% which were really bad ones) and then keeping the other bits down. So far 4 weeks in BGs are looking very good and lost 17lbs.
We all must do what works for us and always interesting reading what others are doing which some times inspires us and some times we think omg I could never do that!😉
I have psyllium husk daily - it has 1gm carbs and I chug it down before it thickens. My milk has 8.2gm carbs for 170ml. I only ever blend my soups - add no thickener. But reading your food list my initial thought was "what happened to 5+ a day?" I am seriously concerned that you are not getting the full spectrum of essential minerals and vitamins. I do hope you get regular blood tests that check you are not missing out, or are you taking supplements? So my reaction to your diet is - as you say - omg I could never do that! 😱
I have psyllium husk daily - it has 1gm carbs and I chug it down before it thickens. My milk has 8.2gm carbs for 170ml. I only ever blend my soups - add no thickener. But reading your food list my initial thought was "what happened to 5+ a day?" I am seriously concerned that you are not getting the full spectrum of essential minerals and vitamins. I do hope you get regular blood tests that check you are not missing out, or are you taking supplements? So my reaction to your diet is - as you say - omg I could never do that! 😱
5 a day lol, I have never had 5 a day in my life and I believe it was meant to be 7 or 10 a day but they thought that was too big a number to campaign on 🙂.
First off - yes my diet is not 'good' - it is only short term to 'fix' my BG and weight issues. I do have days when I eat a bit more and with a few more carbs and more variety.
So far I have only had 1 issue and that was missing heart beats (which is actually extra heart beats), which I believe was lack of potassium - fixed at the time with some peanut butter and some salmon but I did get some supplements that give me some more potassium, magnesium etc. I intend to come off these as soon as possible. I told my doctor after this happened, he checked my pulse and was happy 🙂.
I do take a few vitamin C tablets atm but its amazing how much good stuff there is in eggs.
I'm glad you are aware of potential issues and this is short term. I have always been close to vegetarian, having 8 - 10 portions a lot of the time, and am probably low on protein. I've always followed a reasonably healthy diet, just ate too much of a good thing. That's why I found it so unfair to be told my Diverticular Disease was due to eating rubbish, when it wasn't - it runs in the family, going back to the 1940's and 1950's when the diet was so much better. Medical people are now coming to accept that there is a genetic component as well. But you did give me a good idea - I had a mushroom omelette for lunch!!!
I'm glad you are aware of potential issues and this is short term. I have always been close to vegetarian, having 8 - 10 portions a lot of the time, and am probably low on protein. I've always followed a reasonably healthy diet, just ate too much of a good thing. That's why I found it so unfair to be told my Diverticular Disease was due to eating rubbish, when it wasn't - it runs in the family, going back to the 1940's and 1950's when the diet was so much better. Medical people are now coming to accept that there is a genetic component as well. But you did give me a good idea - I had a mushroom omelette for lunch!!!
Those pesky genetics 🙄. Even when things are not 'proved' genetic, we often eat how our parents and grand parents ate so even if not genetic this week diet related issues can be inherited other ways.
Mushroom omelette mmm always tasty especially with some bacon or tuna and tomatoes (but they do have carbs 🙂)
I have always been a meatetarian so some things come easy to me .
I have psyllium husk daily - it has 1gm carbs and I chug it down before it thickens. My milk has 8.2gm carbs for 170ml. I only ever blend my soups - add no thickener. But reading your food list my initial thought was "what happened to 5+ a day?" I am seriously concerned that you are not getting the full spectrum of essential minerals and vitamins. I do hope you get regular blood tests that check you are not missing out, or are you taking supplements? So my reaction to your diet is - as you say - omg I could never do that! 😱
I have a small bag of mixed salad, then add tomato cucumber celery radishes beetroot coleslaw lettuce and sweet pepper plus anything else in the fridge. In the evening I have mushrooms courgette aubergine cauliflower, more sweet pepper, small amounts of peas or runner beans with berries and cream a couple of times a week. I suspect that I eat a far more varied diet than many.
I do not drink milk - but put cream in my coffee.
My dr. is not at all interested - not seen him since diagnosis almost 3 years ago and he put NFA on my notes at 6 months from diagnosis. I can go in and ask for a blood test - I need one as I take Thyroxine and that ought to be checked annually, but it means going through the 'statins send me senile' argument each time.
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. This has brought my BG right down to 4s and a few 5s 
