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squidge63

squidge63

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Had a latte in Starbucks and read my paper, went to the cake shop next door and treated myself to a cream doughnut... took 50u of novorapid as I was about 11 or 12 when I got up.. I feel fine not tired no headache etc.. took my BS reading before supper and my reading was 27.4...😱 so ended up taking another 50u of novorapid.. hopefully it will bring it down, but I bet by not much. I was 18 before I went to bed yesterday so I took 24u and that only took it down to the 11 or 12 that I was this morning...

I was thinking the other day ( yes it was hard to do and smoke was pouring out my ears lol), that the only time that I feel well with my diabetes is whenever I have been in hospital for an operation and have been on an actrapid infusion, and my BS are great...
 
awww that sucks they are so high =( I hope they do come down.
 
Hey Squidge, it must be so difficult trying to work out a dose when you are so insulin resistant. If I took 50 units of NR I'd never wake up! Hypos are rubbish, but I reckon highs are worse any day - hope things can get sorted and you can get down within range. Astonishing that a cream doughnut could do that to you.😱
 
Northerner said:
Hey Squidge, it must be so difficult trying to work out a dose when you are so insulin resistant. If I took 50 units of NR I'd never wake up! Hypos are rubbish, but I reckon highs are worse any day - hope things can get sorted and you can get down within range. Astonishing that a cream doughnut could do that to you.😱
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I know, unless of course I have something brewing and don't know about it, mind you 5 grapes can do that to me as well... :confused: some days I think yep I have got a grip of this and then I get days where I haven't a clue what it going on, even with carb counting it is not that easy...

Do they put type 2's on insulin pumps??
 
squidge63 said:
I know, unless of course I have something brewing and don't know about it, mind you 5 grapes can do that to me as well... :confused: some days I think yep I have got a grip of this and then I get days where I haven't a clue what it going on, even with carb counting it is not that easy...

Do they put type 2's on insulin pumps??
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That's something I've always wondered, but I'm not aware of any Type 2 pumpers. Something to broach with your team perhaps, or maybe John Davis at Input could tell you - he'dbe the person to know! http://www.input.me.uk/
 
I'm on about the same dosage of Levemir as you, but my GP hasn't even suggested fast acting insulin. The only way I can control my sugars is by avoiding most carbs, so a cream donut would be out of the question. I'm just about at the end of a period of having a kit kat or 2 after lunch and that is increasing my levemir dosage, who would have thought. Point of interest my diet is 70 gram cereal + milk for breakfast, cold roast chicken and salad with packet of crisps for lunch, cooked dinner with a couple of spuds. My GP likes me to be at 8 before bed so I can sometimes have a packet of crisps to keep me going. What do you eat? cause you sound in a worse way than me. I freak out if my reading hits 10 at any time. Hba1c was 6.5 last time.
 
Just checked sugars after an hour and it's only come down to 26.4.. but it's going in the right direction...

Vic, I carb count my meals and adjust my insulin.. I weigh my rice and pasta and now eat more vegetables, occasionally I have a slip up with chocolate or like today with the cream doughnut..

As I said in my initial post the only time I ever felt good and had good readings is when I have been in hospital on an insulin infusion.
 
Squidge.
I don't know much about type 2 but in my ignorance, it seems you need to be on fast acting. You seem to have the symptoms of a type 1 and may be better treated like a type 1. I have no experience of this at all but i wonder how a hospital decides whether a patient is type 1 or type 2 when they are diagnosed say at the age of about 30 - 40 years. Do you or does anybody here know the answer?:confused:
 
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I am on Novorapid which is my fast acting one and then Levemir in the morning and night.. when I was diagnosed they just said I was type 2 so I have always followed that treatment, from diet and exercise, then tablets, then two types of tablets, and when that didn't work I went on to a mixed insulin twice a day and then onto the 5 injections that I am on now.. although the consultant said for someone your age I am surprised you lasted on tablets so long!!! I just don't seem to be able to work my diabetes out, I see my DSN in a couple of weeks so shall speak to her.

2 hours after my high I just tested again and it has gone up to 27.6 and I have only had a cup of tea and water in that time... I really don't understand my diabetes.
 
Squidge,
That just doesn't sound right. I mean i don't know how old you were when you were diagnosed but surely there has to be sound medical evidence behind such a diagnosis. It can't simply be the case that when you're diagnosed at 29 you must be type 1 and when you're diagnosed at 30 you must be type 2?
I wish you luck at your next meeting. I should get to the bottom of it and demand an answer.
I was diagnosed type 1 but my medical records still say i'm type 2 !!!!!!What a load of ........ Hope you get those levels down soon. If you see an improvement when your regime is changed, as when you're in hospital - there's got to be a reason which can be used to your long- -term advantage.
 
Rawtalent
I went into A&E with chest pains, so they did a load of blood tests and when they sent me off for a test they gave me my notes and I saw my glucose was 9.3 or thereabouts.. and thought hold on I'm not a diabetic.. they tested me a couple of times on the ward and I was 11. something one day so they said I had to have a GTT.. went for that, gave them my urine sample and they did the first blood test, they got that result came out and said "you are definitely diabetic your urine sample was off the scale with sugar and your blood test showed you were as well" so they sent me home to see my GP... was then referred to diabetic unit and have always been treated as type 2... I was 36 when diagnosed.
 
3 hours after I am now down to 19.3 so hopefully it will continue going down overnight... hope I don't get a hypo at 2am like I did last week...!!! Am happy it's coming down now.
 
Squidge,
I really hope you get the help you need and deserve.

I think it's important to find out about the correct diagnosis and whether or not the treatment offered is completely appropriate.
36 is quite young for a type 2 i would say. The vast majority of type 2's will be a lot older than you at diagnosis.

Glad to hear it's coming down now. Have a good evening.🙂
 
Northerner said:
That's something I've always wondered, but I'm not aware of any Type 2 pumpers. Something to broach with your team perhaps, or maybe John Davis at Input could tell you - he'dbe the person to know! http://www.input.me.uk/
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Sorry to butt in, and as a D&E controlled T2 I know nothing about pumps, but having had a look at the Input website (linked by Northerner), they say "our focus is on Type 1 initially, but will include Type 2 in the longer term". Looks like T2's not precluded. Worth a follow up?
 
Well I was 8.2 when I got up, think I will stay away from cream doughnuts or just give a shed load of insulin with it...

Just been looking at the tudiabetes site that was mentioned in a thread, I know it is American but they have quite a few Type 2's who use pumps.. I will mention it to my DSN when I see her.
 
rawtalent said:
Squidge.
I don't know much about type 2 but in my ignorance, it seems you need to be on fast acting. You seem to have the symptoms of a type 1 and may be better treated like a type 1. I have no experience of this at all but i wonder how a hospital decides whether a patient is type 1 or type 2 when they are diagnosed say at the age of about 30 - 40 years. Do you or does anybody here know the answer?:confused:
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There are sppecific blood tests that can be done to diagnose correctly if you are type 1 or type 2. Otherwise like you mention they are just guessing your dianosis and treating you accordingly. I was initially diagnosed type two as I was 41, however I am a type 1 and had the c-peptide test to prove it.
 
rawtalent said:
Squidge,
I really hope you get the help you need and deserve.

I think it's important to find out about the correct diagnosis and whether or not the treatment offered is completely appropriate.
36 is quite young for a type 2 i would say. The vast majority of type 2's will be a lot older than you at diagnosis.

Glad to hear it's coming down now. Have a good evening.🙂
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Personally I dont think age comes into it. Yes mostly it is children who are diagnosed type 1, but also a lot of adults, me for one. With type 2, there are also a lot of young adults and even children being diagnosed too. I agree you need to know to get the right treatment though.
 
Hello tracey w,
I was really just interested to know how a hospital diagnoses whether a person is type 1 or 2?

My specialist (diabtetes specialist - not my gp) doctor has always told me when we chat generally that as a rule people with type 2 will have the maturity onset type 2 and type 1 is mostly much younger people. I am interested therefore how a diagnosis is made when someone is in that 'middle age group' when they can easily be type 1 or type 2.

If a simple bloodtest can determine this then that may be the answer. But i remain a little synical about most things in life and doctors are not infalable; they are by definition general practitioners which means they don't know everything about anything!
As an example, 3 years ago i had a really nasty bang on my head, after which i didn't fall unconcious. However, during the ensuing few months i started to get very tired and depressed and there were times when i simply thought i was going to fall over and was unable to walk straight. I went to my gp on 3 separate occasions and explained what had happened. Eventually, i had to pay privately to see a nurologist, because i was aware the problem was something to do with my head.

He diagnosed the problem and treatment in about 5 minutes of time with me.

I'm always questioning things because it's the only way we can improve what we do and the treatment we get. I'm learning new things every day.🙂
 
rawtalent said:
Hello tracey w,
I was really just interested to know how a hospital diagnoses whether a person is type 1 or 2?

My specialist (diabtetes specialist - not my gp) doctor has always told me when we chat generally that as a rule people with type 2 will have the maturity onset type 2 and type 1 is mostly much younger people. I am interested therefore how a diagnosis is made when someone is in that 'middle age group' when they can easily be type 1 or type 2.

If a simple bloodtest can determine this then that may be the answer. But i remain a little synical about most things in life and doctors are not infalable; they are by definition general practitioners which means they don't know everything about anything!
As an example, 3 years ago i had a really nasty bang on my head, after which i didn't fall unconcious. However, during the ensuing few months i started to get very tired and depressed and there were times when i simply thought i was going to fall over and was unable to walk straight. I went to my gp on 3 separate occasions and explained what had happened. Eventually, i had to pay privately to see a nurologist, because i was aware the problem was something to do with my head.

He diagnosed the problem and treatment in about 5 minutes of time with me.

I'm always questioning things because it's the only way we can improve what we do and the treatment we get. I'm learning new things every day.🙂
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Completely agree with the whole gp and general thing. Dont even get me started on my misdiagnosis. I too question everything the gp says and do my research before i get there if i need anything! yes its as simple as a blood test, unfortunately they dont offer it matter of fact and i had to push the consultant for mine, wit the the reply of "well we believe you are a type one so the result is irrelevant", but i wanted to know, is my body after all.

Others on here can go in to the technical details, but as i understand it the test shows if you have the antibodies in your blood that show your body has killed off your insulin producing cells in the pancreas, by assessing the amount of c-peptide protein in your blood. This test can give a definitive type 1 diagnosis, if negative then you are type 2 and insulin resistant etc. there are other tests i believe for mody and lada but im not well up on those either.

Unfortunately as you say most gps will diagnose purely on age from my experience and that of others but this is wrong. Even though i was presenting with typical type 1 symptoms i was sent away with tablets purely because of my age, just plain wrong. 😡
 
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