Continuing poor balance and falls after period of hypos

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I have been a Type 1 diabetic since 1996. I went into hospital on Nov 25th 2016 for what I was told was a ‘routine’ removal of a minor cancerous tumour on my kidney. That was performed successfully. However, while in the recovery room, I had the first of two cardiac arrests and I suffered some sort of‘ neurological incident’. No-one can explain what the incident was indeed but immediately after my wife was called (at 21:00 – to say that my heart had stopped and that I had been taken to Intensive Care Unit). She was asked to come to the hospital as soon as possible. The Consultant explained that the operation had gone well but they were unable to get me to respond to pain afterwards. Their first “working diagnosis” was a bleed somewhere and they were trying to find it. A first CT scan revealed nothing extraordinary. They had consulted the Neurology Dept at another hospital, and on their (latter’s) suggestion, another CT was done focussing on a specific area of the neck. This came back clear. They kept working down a list of possible candidates to explain what they were seeing in me.


The clinical staff told my wife that my blood pressure and heart rate were going up and down erratically, and that my limbs were thrashing about. At this juncture they had ruled out an epileptic episode.


When my wife finally did see me, I was hooked up to a large number of monitors and I was intubated. A sea of serious faces dressed in surgical scrubs stared at her. Before she could say anything, my limbs started thrashing around. She says that it was horrible, watching me hitting and kicking myself. At this gathering of eight to ten doctors, all in scrubs, discussing possible scenarios, one of the medicos actually said “WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS VERY SERIOUS


For the next month - 11 days in the Intensive Care Unit, mostly in a coma or barely aware of my surroundings and where I had my second cardiac arrest and a further 17 days in a ward, my feet continued to kick out and I had severe tremors. They still do. Sometimes very violently.


From my best recollection I received insulin twice whilst I was in the ward (once 1 hour and 40 minutes before a meal – I am unsure what dosage they gave me – certainly they made no reference to my blood glucose chart which records dosage – I still have the sheet. This early dose meant that I went into a hypo - BG 2.4). I had to ask for blood tests to be performed, which they were on several (!) occasions. They were not done routinely, or before meals as they should have been.


I strongly suspect that I suffered several undetected hypoglycaemic episodes and during which my brain was starved of oxygen.


I spent January to April this year having frequent hypos. In February my diabetic clinic changed my insulin (from Levemir 50 i/u twice a day) to Toujeo (80 i/u once a day). They left the Novorapid at 22 i/u before breakfast, 14 i/u before lunch and 20 i/u before dinner. The frequent hypos continued. Then in April I was hospitalised with a severe chest complaint/borderline pneumonia and the Diabetic Department came to my help. I am now on (60 i/u Toujeo once a day, 6 i/u Novorapid before breakfast, 3 i/u of Novorapid before lunch and a further 6 i/u before dinner. Not surprisingly the hypos have stopped.


I was sent home from hospital on 23rd December with the advice (from a consultant, no less) that I have a second banister fitted to the stairs in our home. (Really? Two days before Christmas? In Ireland?). It is a well known fact that consultants live in a different world from we mere mortals.


Now at home I fall frequently (50 to 60 times in the first five months of this year.) I have been to Accident and Emergency several times and I still cannot walk properly without a stick (good days) or a stroller or zimmer walking frame (usually). Outside I must be taken in a wheelchair.


Sometimes even with the stroller it is all that I can do to make baby steps – two or three inches at a time. Slow but laborious.


My physio says that after five months hard work my legs are stronger but my balance is no better than it was in January.


I have lost almost three stone and my waist (belt) has shrunk by six or seven notches. None of my clothes fits!


My last visit to the neurosurgeon (February) cost €400, told me nothing that I hadn’t already been told before in the ward, save that he didn’t know what was wrong with me. His report acknowledged that I had deteriorated since leaving the hospital. He suggested that I go away for six months to see if I improve. I haven’t. I still fall over and can’t walk properly.


I am convinced that poor diabetic control whilst in the hospital is at least a contributory cause of my problems. Proof is the big thing. The hospital has delayed providing my records for four months, despite the best efforts of my solicitor. I am sure that the lack of proper BG monitoring will be evident, as will the lackadaisical attitude to hypos, insulin and proper diabetes control.


Has anyone else suffered tremors/falls after a series of hypos or a period of unsupervised/uncontrolled blood glucose?

 
Robert,

You've had a rough time for sure - let's hope things start looking up for you and you get to the bottom of what's been happening and reprimand those accountable and in due course get an apology and remedy etc

Best of Luck,

Sean
 
Hello and welcome 🙂
I'm afraid I can't help you as I'm fairly new to the game, but I hope someone more experienced and knowledgeable will come along to help you.
 
Goodness ! So sorry this has happened Robert. Unfortunately I've absolutely no idea of how things work generally outside the NHS - where as a hospital inpatient on any ward where patients require Obs to be done - BG monitoring is one of the standard things they do for everyone - not just diabetics. (eg my non-D husband had his cancerous prostate removed a couple of years ago - BP, temperature and BG were standard every couple of hours, plus the specific ones for the Urinary ward on top of that.)

The NHS may be in a right mess - but overall it's still fantastic and has inbuilt systems for patient safety that seem somewhat better generally than the hospital you were lumbered with. Yep, mistakes do still happen sometimes of course - to err is a human trait, after all !

Also - we all now carb count and adjust mealtime insulin doses based on the exact amount of carbs we are about to consume - and have courses we go on to get us up and running on that. Even though some of us were taught to carb count way back when - we weren't taught properly how to adjust the doses then, since the insulins used in those days weren't designed to do that with. Do they not have these things in your part of the world?

I wonder ....... have you ever heard of - or been encouraged to do any 'Basal testing' ? It might not be a bad idea to have a go at that - and then do the Online carb-counting course (free! LOL) provided by Bournemouth Diabetes and Endocrinology centre. I'm thinking, just maybe ..... if you're going lower than you want to be at any time of the day or night - which could be contributing to some of the falls and/or your overall recovery.

Here are the links
Basal testing http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/info/?page_id=120
Carb counting https://www.bertieonline.org.uk/
 
Thanks for the info Jenny
The diabetic scene is somewhat patchy here in Ireland. as I said

"In February my diabetic clinic changed my insulin (from Levemir 50 i/u twice a day) to Toujeo (80 i/u once a day). They left the Novorapid at 22 i/u before breakfast, 14 i/u before lunch and 20 i/u before dinner. The frequent hypos continued. Then in April I was hospitalised with a severe chest complaint/borderline pneumonia and the Diabetic Department came to my help. I am now on (60 i/u Toujeo once a day, 6 i/u Novorapid before breakfast, 3 i/u of Novorapid before lunch and a further 6 i/u before dinner. ".

My insulin levels have crept up a little since April (9/6/10) which seems to be suiting me. It really is a case of suck it and see, rather than rely completely on the professionals.

I shall continue to fight - testing, estimating doses etc.

Thanks again for taking the time to write. I do appreciate it.

Robert
T1 since 1996.
 
Welcome to the forum Robert Wilson Thomas. Are you looking for advice about improving your balance? Or are you seeking legal redress from the hospital where you suffered your neurological event? If the latter, anecdotes won't help your case. You'll need a medical expert willing to give evidence in your civil law case. In UK, only doctors on an approved list of medico-legal experts can do this. Obviously, I'm not sure about Republic of Ireland law and practice.
Best of luck in finding answers.
 
Hi Copepod,
Thanks for your response.

The answer is both. At present we have not got a diagnosis, let alone a prognosis or game plan of action for recovery. I have effectively been abandoned by the 'so-called' experts.

The medical profession in Ireland clams up at the mere mention of litigation. After four months we are still trying to get a copy of my medical records.

Our next step (absent anyone who knows about what we think is Lance-Adams syndrome - a neurological condition that seems to match my history and current condition) is to seek confirmation of this and advice at a neurological centre of excellence in the UK.

The search continues.

Robert WT
 
Good luck with your search for someone who can help. UK is probably a good place to start, but specialists in other European countries may also be able to help, albeit with language translation needed.
 
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