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lesley from Chelmsford

lesley from Chelmsford

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Morning all..just want to know how long after eating should I test my blood to see if it affects my BG readings...as I'm trying to see what I can and can't have that suits me.
 
It also depends on what you had on the toast. Butter would make it slightly lower GI. From my experience I usually spike about 1 hour afterwards. It is not so much the GI but the GL.
 
Mark T said:
What I've worked to is that you want the difference between before and after to be less than 4. Given you were quite high anyway I suspect it might spike higher than this.
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Yes very high this is why I'm trying to see what's best to eat as I'm struggling with this at the moment
 
Lilian said:
It also depends on what you had on the toast. Butter would make it slightly lower GI. From my experience I usually spike about 1 hour afterwards. It is not so much the GI but the GL.
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I shall do it after an hour thank you for your reply
 
Lilian said:
It also depends on what you had on the toast. Butter would make it slightly lower GI. From my experience I usually spike about 1 hour afterwards. It is not so much the GI but the GL.
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Low sugar peanut butter is good too. I found that toasted burgan combined with either butter or peanut butter wasn't too bad for me. The worst I had was when I had a packet mix porridge which sent me towards the 20's!
 
Mark T said:
Low sugar peanut butter is good too. I found that toasted burgan combined with either butter or peanut butter wasn't too bad for me. The worst I had was when I had a packet mix porridge which sent me towards the 20's!
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I shall try the peanut butter tomorrow....I ate a meat pie yesterday and that sent me up in to the 20s and I panicked it gets me to the stage where I scared to eat
 
If that was your breakfast Lesley, may I suggest you add some protein to it, or cut out the bread altogether and have say a couple of scrambled eggs, a couple slices bacon and some fried mushrooms. Instead of the beef being in a pie why not just a beef stew with vegetables. If you fancy a bit of pastry just have a pastry topping. Little things like that make a lot of difference. You don't necessarily have to change the food you like, just adapt it.
 
Lilian said:
If that was your breakfast Lesley, may I suggest you add some protein to it, or cut out the bread altogether and have say a couple of scrambled eggs, a couple slices bacon and some fried mushrooms. Instead of the beef being in a pie why not just a beef stew with vegetables. If you fancy a bit of pastry just have a pastry topping. Little things like that make a lot of difference. You don't necessarily have to change the food you like, just adapt it.
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The meat pie was for my dinner I had 6 chips with it and a bit of salad
 
lesley from Chelmsford said:
The meat pie was for my dinner I had 6 chips with it and a bit of salad
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You did say that the meat pie was your previous night's meal Lesley, but what you have the night before reflects on your blood glucose in the morning. It does not sound over the top to be 16 in the morning so maybe it is a reflection on something else you had during the day before. That one piece of toast might have raised your blood glucose by say 4 so if you start with 16 it will go up to 20, but if you started with say 6 it would only have gone up to 10. So it is the whole picture as well as individual meals / snacks. It could mean you need the help of a bit more, or different, medication.
 
Lilian said:
You did say that the meat pie was your previous night's meal Lesley, but what you have the night before reflects on your blood glucose in the morning. It does not sound over the top to be 16 in the morning so maybe it is a reflection on something else you had during the day before. That one piece of toast might have raised your blood glucose by say 4 so if you start with 16 it will go up to 20, but if you started with say 6 it would only have gone up to 10. So it is the whole picture as well as individual meals / snacks. It could mean you need the help of a bit more, or different, medication.
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It confuses me I am very new to this so probably will take me time to adjust to it all....I'm not on medication yet Dr wants to see if I can manage it my self for the next 3 months...I'm also having trouble getting My sugar levels down in my urine that's a mission on its own
 
May I strongly suggest Lesley that you ask your doctor / nurse whether there are any EXPERT courses in your area and if so to get you on one as soon as possible. They are invaluable and are so informative and in such a way everyone can understand. The principle is the same but one size does not fit all in practice. To explain everything in one message is impossible. There is a lot to learn but because the EXPERT course teach you the principles it makes it easier to understand and be able to adapt your diet and way of life to suit your particular body and needs. I cannot recommend it too highly.
 
Lilian said:
May I strongly suggest Lesley that you ask your doctor / nurse whether there are any EXPERT courses in your area and if so to get you on one as soon as possible. They are invaluable and are so informative and in such a way everyone can understand. The principle is the same but one size does not fit all in practice. To explain everything in one message is impossible. There is a lot to learn but because the EXPERT course teach you the principles it makes it easier to understand and be able to adapt your diet and way of life to suit your particular body and needs. I cannot recommend it too highly.
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I will do that Lillian thank you for all your help have a nice weekend.
 
Lilian said:
May I strongly suggest Lesley that you ask your doctor / nurse whether there are any EXPERT courses in your area and if so to get you on one as soon as possible. They are invaluable and are so informative and in such a way everyone can understand. The principle is the same but one size does not fit all in practice. To explain everything in one message is impossible. There is a lot to learn but because the EXPERT course teach you the principles it makes it easier to understand and be able to adapt your diet and way of life to suit your particular body and needs. I cannot recommend it too highly.
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That would be nice! When I asked my surgery and the Diabetes Centre at Broomfield there were not any courses. Possibly that might have changed in the last 4 years but I wouldn't hold my breath!

Lesley to give you some positives you are doing the right thing with testing. It took me a few months to build up enough measurements to know what was good and what is bad. So don't get too wound up about everything right now (because stress sends your numbers higher!).

Personally I think you GP is wrong, as the NICE criteria actually says to go straight to medication if your numbers are high. But GP's are not specialists, so you can't expect them to know the guidelines inside and out.
 
It might be helpful to get a book giving carb count. There is one Carbs & Cals and they have an app called the same for a smart phone if you have one. For example a small steak pie (244g) is about 53g carbs and 75g chips is 30g so about 80g carbs. If you had had say a quarter of a large chicken including the skin, with the salad and some real mayonnaise your carbs would have been negligible and you would have felt just as full and for longer, but your blood glucose would not have risen anywhere near and would have recovered quicker. I do agree with Mark though, I am wondering why they have not given you any medication to help at all. However when my husband was diagnosed a few years ago they did not give him any medication, he went on low carb diet, cut out bread, potatoes etc. brought his blood sugar down and has had no problem since. Still on no medication but able to eat a pie now and again, and a bit of cake occasionally, without his HbA1c rising. In fact we think he is no longer diabetic.
 
If I was to have a pie I would not have potatoes in any form, just other vegetables!
I would only test your bloods not your urine! The readings in the urine lag behind and would be above 10 in the bloods before showing in the urine!
According to the local CCG website newly diagnosed Diabetics should be offered an education course, I looked on there site recently!
 
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