Clotted cream scones

[gillrogers]

Hello , I'm having troubles getting my head around clotted cream scones and when I take my insulin. So yesterday I had one with my lunch and ended up doing a dive about half hour after lunch. But 4 hours later I was still rising after I had to put a glucos tab brake on the drop. I realised it was the fat of the clotted cream slowing the sugar release down and should have split my insulin dose.
So today I tried again, but split my dose and it dropped again but I didn't need the brake this time but it's started to rise well again after 3.5 hours.
Makes me wonder if I need to take the insulin dose 2 hours after I've eaten it?

 

[helli]

Unfortunately it is trial and error.
Taking all the insulin after 2 hours seems a bit harsh to me (but we are all different).
Have you tried changing the ratio of your split. For example, take 30% with your scones and 70% after 2 or 3 hours.

 

[rebrascora]

Are you prebolusing for the scone with the first half of the split or injecting as you eat? If you are prebolusing that first part of the dose then try injecting just before you eat and then the remainder at 1hr. If you still drop then try adjusting the split as @helli suggests and/or dropping the second part of the dose back to 1.5 hours or 2 hours.

It is terrible that we have to do these repeated experiments on ourselves in order to figure out the best strategy to tackle a clotted cream scone 🙄 . I would suggest you probably need at least 2 sets of results for each test to be sure of the result...so it seems like you could spend the whole summer perfecting your insulin technique for eating scones.... It's a tough life! 😎

 

[gillrogers]

Unfortunately it is trial and error.
Taking all the insulin after 2 hours seems a bit harsh to me (but we are all different).
Have you tried changing the ratio of your split. For example, take 30% with your scones and 70% after 2 or 3 hours.

Hi Helli, that was the exact ratio I used but my lyumjev reaches its peak at 2 hours so if m rising again at 3.5 to 4 hours there's very little left to stop it. I went up from 8 to 13 in that half hour. Coming down now but I'll probably need a correction unit at tea.

 

[gillrogers]

Are you prebolusing for the scone with the first half of the split or injecting as you eat? If you are prebolusing that first part of the dose then try injecting just before you eat and then the remainder at 1hr. If you still drop then try adjusting the split as @helli suggests and/or dropping the second part of the dose back to 1.5 hours or 2 hours.

It is terrible that we have to do these repeated experiments on ourselves in order to figure out the best strategy to tackle a clotted cream scone 🙄 . I would suggest you probably need at least 2 sets of results for each test to be sure of the result...so it seems like you could spend the whole summer perfecting your insulin technique for eating scones.... It's a tough life! 😎

Yes I think I'll have to try that Barb, Just worried I could end up insulin stacking

 

[rebrascora]

I think there is a lot of unnecessary worry and misunderstanding about insulin stacking and I don't think it is nearly so relevant now that we have Libre to monitor our levels more closely.
To me stacking is adding one correction on top of another, not two carefully calculated bolus injections overlapping in activity time, particularly if one is a split dose from a much earlier meal.. As long as you are aware that there is still active insulin on board and don't add a correction for a high at the next meal which already has insulin in your system to deal with it, it should not be a problem.

 

[Inka]

If you have any in-date Humalog left, you could try that. I’m partial to a jam and cream scone (I started drooling just typing that ) and I have no issue with Humalog. I inject between 0-10 mins before eating, depending on circumstances and I don’t get any rise later. I wouldn’t think the fat in the clotted cream would have a huge effect (unless you dolloped a whole tub on) and the jam and scone carbs tend to be more prominent in any blood sugar effect. I suspect the insulin is involved.

Happy experimenting!

 

[nonethewiser]

Often have fruit scone with butter jam & clotted cream, had one just last week.

Think with all food experiments it's case of trial & error, when you nail it keep record of it on phone or diary for future reference for when you eat it again. Did this with chinese indian & Italian dishes, takeaway & homemade meals, persevere & you will get it right eventually.