CCGs contest being charged for Babylon GP at Hand patients

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Some London CCGs are contesting being charged a fee for patients in their areas that have signed up to Babylon GP at Hand.

CCGs were told to ‘set aside’ money to cover the costs of patients who reside within the CCG but are registered with the digital-first service, which is based in NHS Hammersmith and Fulham CCG.

NHS Tower Hamlets CCG said it is ‘contesting this charge, together with other London CCGs’, and questions both the principle of the fee and the calculation method.

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/home/fi...-babylon-gp-at-hand-patients/20037927.article
 
I agree with the CCG. First time I’ve ever written those words. If people choose to opt out of standard NHS services, tough titty, particularly if they are out of area. Don’t see why it should be bunged on the local CCG.
 
“they should never be denied local NHS care.”

They’re not. They chose Babylon, which is not local care. Local care is still available via their local GP.

“People who choose Babylon GP at hand as their NHS GP must be able to access the full range of NHS services local to them, and this care should be fully funded.”

They can. Via their local GP.

Can’t see what their issue is. Why should Babylon get funding? If they want to charge for out of locality care, they should fund it themselves.
 
Can the local GPs provide the same service?
Especially appointment waiting times?
 
I bet if they were used properly they would be able to, rather than people taking up emergency appointments for coughs and colds that don’t need medical treatment.
 
Madeline said:
I bet if they were used properly they would be able to, rather than people taking up emergency appointments for coughs and colds that don’t need medical treatment.
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Sounds like a digital service would get them out the way for the real patients them.
 
Have to be honest Madeline and say, I'm not actually all that sure that what you've just said is still as rife as it once was. The sheer fact round here seems to be - more people to treat. Less old people die in the 60s and early 70s - but we do tend to get the usual complications of living to old age and when we do, we need to see the GP. Fewer babies die young of disabilities they were born with - so GPs have to see them - and their parents who quite possibly need more reassurance than parents of normally perfectly healthy kids presenting with the same condition. Nobody dies of cancer anywhere near as rapidly as in the past - it's no longer an automatic death sentence.

It's the numbers game.
 
You’re probably right, where I live is a bit of an anomaly, and it’s a long time since I lived anywhere ‘busy’. Tiny town that would be a village where I come from in Essex, one surgery, and I can always get a same day appointment.
 
Madeline said:
You’re probably right, where I live is a bit of an anomaly, and it’s a long time since I lived anywhere ‘busy’. Tiny town that would be a village where I come from in Essex, one surgery, and I can always get a same day appointment.
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Well you are lucky, I have been on the phone for at least 40 mins in queue waiting to get through on the phone.
 
Oh I know I’m lucky, they really are exceptional. The local pharmacy on the other hand...
 
And I do remember what it was like before we moved up here, and that was 8 years ago.
 
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