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Breakfast?

Todski

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Type 2
Hi, I am newly diagnosed type 2 and am at a complete loss as to whether nuts and seeds muesli is a good idea or not.
 
My go to for breakfast is eggs

Either as an omelette or scrambled on wholemeal toast or soft boiled

Have a good breakfast sets you up for the day
 
Good morning @Todski and welcome to the forum. Most muesli is quite high in carbs due to the grains and dried fruit. I would pick the lowest carb version and have a smaller portion.
I used to have muesli with a topping of plain yoghurt and some berries. Since diabetes diagnosis I have a larger portion of full fat yoghurt and use the muesli as a crunchy topping with a few berries.

A few people on the forum like M&S muesli. They do a low carb version but I can't remember what it's called. Someone will likely post the details on here soon.
I like dorset cereals Simply Nutty muesli, but I don't have it every day. I quite often have egg on toast (poached this morning).
The biggest factor to consider is how your blood glucose reacts to grains, which you will only know by finger prick testing before and 2 hours after breakfast.
If the carbs in grains send your blood glucose too high then maybe consider just having nuts and seeds. Checkout the Carbs and Cals book or app. It has lots of information and useful pictures of portion sizes.
 
Good morning @Todski and welcome to the forum
@silver minion has given you some good advice on the breakfast front, but you need to check other meals as well.

Other things to consider is weight, diet and exercise as these will all play a part in your hba1c score.

Do you know what your hba1c score is as that will give you your starting point to how much you need to do in order to get the numbers down.

Has medication been suggested or have you been given time (normally 3 months) to reduce it yourself with some lifestyle changes ?

Alan 😉
 
I tried the M and S granola. I cannot remember the exact name but it is no grain but includes fruit and nut. I used it as a topping for the yoghurt I like. I usually have blueberry blackberry or raspberry with seeds and sometimes nuts. As an alternative I have an omlette with cheese or mushroom. Occasionally I've had a fry up without beans or hash browns. It is something I eat as a late morning treat when out.Sometimes if it includes poached egg I have it on half a slice of toast.
As long as you check out the number of carbs most things can be eaten if the portion is small.
I'm considering smoked haddock or kipper but in my mind they are linked to apiecd of bread.
I like smoked salmon on its own, with cream cheese with egg or occasionally as an open sandwich ie one slice of bread.
 
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I really enjoy my thick creamy full fat Greek style yoghurt with berries and mixed seeds and a dusting of cinnamon and like others, I sometimes have a sprinkle of a nutty granola, but it is just a sprinkle.
 
Hi, I am newly diagnosed type 2 and am at a complete loss as to whether nuts and seeds muesli is a good idea or not.

Test and see what happens.
Then you'll know if it's a good idea or not.
If your blood glucose levels are still elevated two hours later, it may be best to avoid it.

I usually have Fage Greek yoghurt, chia seeds (Soaked overnight), with berries and nuts and occasionally a small portion of overnight oats.
 
Good morning @Todski and welcome to the forum
@silver minion has given you some good advice on the breakfast front, but you need to check other meals as well.

Other things to consider is weight, diet and exercise as these will all play a part in your hba1c score.

Do you know what your hba1c score is as that will give you your starting point to how much you need to do in order to get the numbers down.

Has medication been suggested or have you been given time (normally 3 months) to reduce it yourself with some lifestyle changes ?

Alan 😉
Hi, my hba1c score was 93 and they have already prescribed medication.
 
Hi @Todski and welcome to the forum. With an HbA1c 93 you will need to work on getting it down. Amongst the things you can do is reduce your carbohydrate intake. This means looking at all your meals through eyes different to how they are at the moment.

So take breakfast muesli as in your first post. You probably look currently for something with the right words on the packet, probably accompanied by country scenes with smiling people and the word healthy in big red letters somewhere. Looks good and just what you need, but is it.

Muesli is essentially a mix of rolled or cut oats, seeds and dried fruit. Generally the more expensive the muesli the more the fruit and nuts and less oats. Some muesli's add other stuff - often with some nebulous health benefit attached. In terms of ranking them for low carb eating you need to ignore the front of the packet and look at the nutritional label on the back. To start with just look at the total carbohydrate and head for those with the lowest carbohydrate per 100g.

Basically, by far the biggest contributor to carbs in a portion of muesli is the oats and to reduce your carb intake you need to eat smaller portions.

Second biggest contributor will be the dried fruit. The more expensive mueslis with lots of fruit may therefore not be the best from a carbohydrate point of view. The extra things put in expensive mueslis are likely to be in this category.

Smallest contributor will be the nuts and seeds - hardly any carbohydrate compared with the other ingredients but full of other useful stuff.

That means my answer to your question is that nuts and seeds are OK in muesli but be wary of the other stuff, especially dried fruit and the like.

Like many others I make my own mix (toasted oats lots of nuts and seeds) and eat small quantities of it with lots of plain Greek yoghurt for my breakfast (plus slice of toast and marmalade chosen with carb content in mind and a brew). Total carbs around 40g, about 1/3 of my target consumption.

As you might guess, I think it better to look at the big picture rather than worry about the little stuff.
 
The M & S Granola being mentioned by @saffron15 is indeed the grain free fruit and nut one which is only 9g carbs per 100g but is a bit pricy but very nice, but I still only use a small amount as a topping on full fat Greek yoghurt and berries. Keeps me going for 5 hours until lunch time./
 
Hi, I am newly diagnosed type 2 and am at a complete loss as to whether nuts and seeds muesli is a good idea or not.
I eat a big bowl of this muesli every day for breakfast. Yes I need to take quite a lot of insulin to counteract the carbs but it's virtually fat-free and it keeps me going until lunchtime!

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Hi, my hba1c score was 93 and they have already prescribed medication.
What medication as that may influence what dietary approach will be suitable.
Be careful about looking at what others do unless you are aware what medication they may be taking for example if people are taking insulin they may be fine with more carbs at a meal than those who do not and will have to be more careful of their carb intake.
 
Hello and welcome to the Forum! 🙂 . I can't offer too much advice as I'm Type 1 treated with insulin but it's good to check labels for carbohydrates, some food has very high amounts of sugar so best to be avoided!
 
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