Bonsoy + chia breakfast/snack excellence

[Eddy Edson]

I've been looking to wean myself off full-fat dairy milk as part of my mission to lower LDL cholesterol to the levels of a healthy free-living rabbit or a juvenile hamster.

One problem is that milk is a big proportion of my daily protein intake and I have to replace it with something non-sat-fatty. Another problem is that skim milk, almond milk and most soy milks taste like pox.

But today I discovered the wonders of Bonsoy milk: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bonsoy-Organic-Milk-Litre-Pack/dp/B01JZDWU2S This is packaged and distributed from Oz, supposedly from raw product produced in Japan by "ancient soy masters" or something (one suspects actually in an old factory block in Dandenong by illegal immigrant sweat-shop labour), but whatever, it is pretty damn good in lattes, flat whites, by itself - creamy, slightly sweet, faintly nutty, like real milk only better. All the rage in over-priced coffee joints.

So to celebrate I've concocted bonsoy + chia porridge-whatever: 200ml of bonsoy milk, 30g of chia seeds, a few raspberries. Preparation time: 30 sec. Nutrition: 15g plant protein, 15g of unsaturated vegetable fats goodness, 0g of evil animal sat-fats, 12.5g net carbs, a whopping 17g of fibre, 280 cals. Taste & texture: tip-top.

Things progress!

 

[Leonora]

That sounds interesting. Will have a look. My doc - all of a sudden - wants to put me on cholesterol tabs, even though the last time he spoke to me about it he said he wasn't worried because the good far exceeded the bad. The only diet change I have made since my last test is that I now eat full fat Greek yogurt. I've refused the tabs and will have to find another breakfast! But what...I ask myself?

 

[trophywench]

Sorry - NOTHING we eat affects the blood cholesterol to any great extent though you might get a bit of a drop by lowering carb intake.

There is more carb in fully skimmed milk than semi and semi has more carbs than full! Hence exactly the same with yogurt.

 

[Eddy Edson]

Sorry - NOTHING we eat affects the blood cholesterol to any great extent though you might get a bit of a drop by lowering carb intake.

There is more carb in fully skimmed milk than semi and semi has more carbs than full! Hence exactly the same with yogurt.

Nope. You probably picked that up from the Internet or something.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000510


Replacing 1% of calories from satfats with the same calories from polyunsaturated fats will on avg reduce LDL, the most important thing, by 2.1 mg/dl, or about 0.05 mmol/l. I have been getting about 7% of calories from satfats, mainly milk. Replacing all of them can be expected to lower LDL by something like 0.35. From my 1.6 starting point, that would be a reduction of 20%+, and a big contribution to my < 1.0 mmol/l goal. Of course, blood will tell, at my next test in a few weeks.

Replacing most satfats with generalised carbs also delivers an LDL reduction, albeit smaller.

Other data suggests the situation with the unsatfat/carb swap depends a lot on the types of carb. Wholegtains etc: neutral. c**p carbs: LDL increase.