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bbc news post..type 2 again

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Sorry that i dont know how to add on links but reading the bbc news i think it was in the health bit there was another report about type 2 diabetes stating that it can be cured by loosing weight and the cause of t2 is obesity aaaarrrrgh didnt like that... i know my knowlege is limited on the vast range on on how or why we have it but it effects all of us slim or otherwise.

i just want to say please dont lable us into little boxes when you dont know us as indiviuals or our medical history it does not mean that if you are type 1 you must be this or you are type 2 you must be that. and every other type inbetween.

if i could i would put my penny piece in

sorry if i have upset anyone but it is how i feel when i read this type of things.
 
sorry i was reading the news from scotland not health so if intrested go there
 
So, if losing weight cures T2, how do we cure the slim T2's?🙄 It is rubbish. I have improved my insulin resistance by losing weight, but will always be diabetic. It's only my diet that's keeping things under control.
 
I commented. The study is probably interesting, but it's reported as if it's just patient blaming. Just because some people are obese and get it, not everyone is.
 
MikeTurin said:
Article on bmj http://www.bmj.com/content/358/bmj.j4030
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I read the article @MikeTurin ...it is interesting...thought provoking & nothing like the summary presented by the BBC...how disingenuous of them (BBC) firstly to have a photograph of an overweight person with a huge plate of burgers...chips & ketchup plonked on their lap...this does not represent the majority of type 2s I know and have regular contact with...secondly to report the findings so culpably...here we go again...the BBC 'fat bashing' once more (to any who may be offended by that...apologies in advance)...the article has some fairly positive information...it indicates that many type 2s who manage their conditions well...obtain good control should have that achievement recognised...outlines the many benefits of that being recorded...qualified...interesting the quote from DUK...has that been validated?...I agree that there should be more awareness that type 2 is a perfectly manageable condition...providing the right level of advice & assistance is given...the BBC news report is not at all representative of the BMJ study...I would encourage any who respond to this thread to read it in full...before they give vent to justifiable comments on the 'inaccurate 'summary reported by the BBC...interesting that Practices receive a fee/incentive for managing their diabetics

"Another UK specific factor may have been fear of losing the incentive payments for managing diabetes under the Quality and Outcomes Framework (QOF). Again, coding “diabetes in remission” retains the diagnostic status so the practice payment would continue.".

Reporting positive outcomes would be an incentive for other type 2s to recognise good control/management is possible...it could also go some way to removing the stigma referred to in the BMJ report...and stop many of us here being blamed for the impending bankruptcy of the NHS.
 
David Garbutt said:
That's the funny thing about remission.
My mum had breast cancer, she beat it into remission, so she's cured, right?
No, it may well return.

I know this is a hot issue.
The report says that most gps, medical staff and patients alike do not even realise that remission from diabetes is possible. Effective treatment with diet and exercise is the cure, is remission.

Education is so key, forums and help groups like this one can make such a difference. I see people post their hba1c result and it's in the normal range, fantastic, shows what can be done.
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Type 2s are often vilified by tabloid journalism...now it appears that also extends to the BBC...I can choose not to buy the tabloids...however... I have no choice whether I pay my licence fee...perhaps I should write and ask for a refund?
 
@Bubbsie same here but you have to pay the licence fee and get a lot of ads. Luckily we haven't an overt campaign against people with diabetes or obese people so programmes talking about it are niche medical or science transmissions.
 
We (in the States) have a lot of Ads for diabetes medicines.... Though they don't show obese people, they do typically show overweight people & encourage you to seek more drugs rather than a balance of diet, exercise & possibly drugs.
 
Am I being cynical to note that 2 of the researchers are consultants to Counterwieght. The counterwieght programme costs £37.50 per month or £425 per year.
The Counterweight Programme is a structured lifestyle programme that aims for 5-10%(5-10kg) weight loss by equipping customers with skills to change their behaviours around eating and activity using everyday foods.
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Vicsetter said:
Am I being cynical to note that 2 of the researchers are consultants to Counterwieght. The counterwieght programme costs £37.50 per month or £425 per year.
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Really...no not cynical atall...that's bloody outrageous!...talk about a vested interest.
 
I really do think that the BBC has its agenda and continually pushes it, I no longer trust BBC news, I do not like their agenda. Any single source of news has to be suspect in my opinion, which is why I always get my news from as many sources as possible, internationally. If the news comes from several different sources, it is more believable, especially if they are politically opposed sources.
 
Typical BBC again. Isn't Jeremy Vine's radio programme which was blaming diabetics for their condition the other day BBC as well. perhaps diabetes.uk should write to the Media and Culture Secretary about it. After all, it is a tax based service.
 
Vicsetter said:
Am I being cynical to note that 2 of the researchers are consultants to Counterwieght. The counterwieght programme costs £37.50 per month or £425 per year.
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That's why paper authors have to declare their interests - whether medications or equipment or behaviour modification programmes.
 
I heard on Radio 4 earlier this morning that GP's are to be instructed by some NHS directive to issue fitness classes to the "pre diabetics"

Don't know if anyone else heard that or not.

They might aswell issue a health warning to 20 million Brits who are all Diabetics waiting to happen as there are far more obese people that are not diabetic than obese people who are.
 
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