Back for the 2nd Time :-( - advice please

Snootybutnice

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Hi everyone
I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2 in Sept 2016 - and then because it was my wedding I was keen to lose weight and after focusing I became pre-diabetic. I stopped my meds and forgot about it - only I crept back to my old ways of eating and with the recent stresses of COVID19, working long 18 hour days for 3 months and with my dad ill with leukaemia I know I've got highly stressed. My eyes got bleary, I constantly felt tired. I then started getting bubbling from behind my right ribcage (around 4 fingers in from my sternum) so I thought I'd mention it to the doctor as I was getting tightness in my chest and sometimes pain in my jaw. I told my doc the truth that I hadn't been taking my meds - and she recommended going back on them to see if it stopped the bubbling. I did - and the bubbling has stopped. Yesterday I pulled out my old testing kit and was quite angry/upset with myself to see that my blood sugar was registering 19.5. Then, this morning when I woke up I took it again and it registered 18.5, without eating. By midday it was 17.2 (still without eating). However after lunch (2 hours later) my reading dropped to 14.8. I have 3 questions:

1. Is it normal that you can eat and reduce your blood sugar...
2. Does anyone know what the bubbling means?
3. Is there something I could be doing to more quickly get my readings under control fast (I've cut out all carbs)?
4. I have a feeling of something crawling on my skin on my neck/shoulders/upper back? - not sure if it was before or after taking metformin. Does anyone else have this?
 
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Kaylz

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You say you pulled out your "old testing kit" have you made sure your strips are still in date/bought new strips for it?

If you aren't eating carbs but walking etc then yes it is possible to have a lower reading after food, carbs are what spikes levels as you'll know so if there was no carbs it shouldn't have done much

Bringing levels down quickly is not a good idea and I highly advise against this as it can do more harm than good, I developed eye problems due to a plummet in levels requiring numerous eye injections so bringing it down slowly is something I feel very strongly about

As for the other questions you'd be better seeking the help from a medical professional
xx
 

LucyDUK

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HI @Snootybutnice

Sorry to read of all your recent stresses and the impact this may have had on following your usual eating habits.

As mentioned already you need to start by checking your test strips are ok, even if the use by date has not passed, once opened most have shelf life of about 6 months I think, so could give inaccurate results.

How long have you been back on Metformin? This does take some time to build up in your system as I understand it so things might not settle immediately but as has also been mentioned a sudden reduction could cause other complications so try and do things gradually.
 

Snootybutnice

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Thank you both - yes the strips were out of date and the pharmacy didn't have any test strips for my machine so I ended up having to buy a new monitor from the shops but ran out of strips last night. My amazon order just arrived today with more test strips. I've tested at 12.1 (down from 17.2 of yesterday at the same time). I've only been on Metformin for a week and taking 1 tablet - I think they told me to take 1 tablet for a week then 2 tablets (1 morning, 1 evening) and then build it up to 2 tablets twice a day. So do you think cutting out all carbs suddenly will cause a problem?
Re: bloods going down after eating - I didn't exercise at all - just ate something and then went back to work and tested 2 hours later. I guess it means it was a good food option if it didn't affect me? Thanks again x
 
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Snootybutnice

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I developed eye problems due to a plummet in levels requiring numerous eye injections so bringing it down slowly

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My eyes ache and feel blurry - I keep trying to blink to clear them. I'm considering getting another eye test just in case I've done some damage - although it was only done in November last year and I got the all clear. What kind of eye problems did you have - can you describe? x
 

Kaylz

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My eyes ache and feel blurry - I keep trying to blink to clear them. I'm considering getting another eye test just in case I've done some damage - although it was only done in November last year and I got the all clear. What kind of eye problems did you have - can you describe? x
I was diagnosed with diabetic macular oedema due to a sudden drop in hba1c, its fluid behind the eyes, everything seemed duller to look at like if I was looking at a digital clock with red numbers the red barely stood out from the dark background, if I rubbed my eyelid my eyes were painful and it felt like they were risen from fluid pushing them forward (I don't know if I'm doing a good job with describing that one) xx
 

Snootybutnice

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Thanks Kaylz - perhaps it's just overworking on the pc for many hours each day causing my issues. I'll probably get them checked out anyway :)
 

Kaylz

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Thanks Kaylz - perhaps it's just overworking on the pc for many hours each day causing my issues. I'll probably get them checked out anyway :)
I couldn't even read my laptop screen with my glasses on without zooming in dramatically lol so it's probably not my problem but whatever makes you feel comfortable just go with it xx
 

DaveB

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My eyes ache and feel blurry - I keep trying to blink to clear them. I'm considering getting another eye test just in case I've done some damage - although it was only done in November last year and I got the all clear. What kind of eye problems did you have - can you describe? x
It's quite normal to have blurry vision when your BS is too high for a long time. It will sort itself out once your BS becomes stable below 10'ish
 

Kaylz

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It's quite normal to have blurry vision when your BS is too high for a long time. It will sort itself out once your BS becomes stable below 10'ish
I don't agree, that's what members here told me too and told me not to bother going for an eye test, better to be safe than sorry
 

everydayupsanddowns

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Welcome back @Snootybutnice

Hope your carb reduction sees your levels come gently back toward the normal range. It may be worth going for a phased reduction of portion sizes rather than going ‘cold turkey’ if you are worried about reducing your BG levels too quickly.

Good luck, and let us know how you get on, and what the results of your eye test are.
 

Snootybutnice

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Hi all - just to say got my eyes tested today and they all seem fine. phew. I had my lowest reading today/this evening of 8.9 (first thing in the morning it was 12.4) so my new diet is definitely pushing down the figures. Went on the scales and apparently I'm 55% fat so I think I'll see more positive results in a few months when I lose the weight. Thank you all for your support. I think I was in shock the other day when I saw my 19.5 figure and just needed to speak to someone about it for added reassurance. Thank you all for your kind support - it was very helpful xxx
 

Geministar1

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Hi all, I can relate to you Kaylz, I got such a shock and lowered my glucose very quickly and started to have eye problems. My doctor first told me it was an age thing and then when I researched online told me it was nothing to do with my rapid reduction in bs levels. Long story short specialist diagnosed diabetic macular oedema triggered by the rapid reduction. Did you have any good results from eye injections, I've had Avastin and recently been changed to eyelet without improvement (I'm doing the zooming thing right now lol) and I've decided not to continue with treatment as it freaks me out every time having injections in both eyes.
 

Kaylz

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Hi @Geministar1, sorry to hear of your eye problems :(

Yes I had great success with eyelea, in fact my ophthalmologist at the hospital said it was the best results he'd seen from the treatment, I did need a couple of top-ups after the initial course of 3 in each eye but the last one would have been 2018 I think but I then developed proliferative retinopathy and had lasering to both eyes in October 2018, its disheartening that even with good control these things have happened so early on

Always here if you need a chat :)
xx
 

pm133

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I don't agree, that's what members here told me too and told me not to bother going for an eye test, better to be safe than sorry
My GP told me not to worry about it.
I wonder how close I came to a serious eye problem with my drastic reduction?
 

Kaylz

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My GP told me not to worry about it.
I wonder how close I came to a serious eye problem with my drastic reduction?
Depends on your luck I suppose, ophthalmologist and D consultant both agree I was just very unlucky and a drop of 68 isn't recommended but wasn't my fault xx
 

rebrascora

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I think the thing to remember is that reducing your levels quickly from a high starting point will put you "at risk" of developing this sort of thing but will not always cause it, so it is in the lap of the Gods whether you do actually sustain damage or not. Sadly @Kaylz and @Geministar1 were unlucky. I would imagine things like high blood pressure may also make you more susceptible. There are also risks associated with remaining at high levels, so finding the balance between the two is the best policy to reduce the risk from either.
 

Kaylz

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I would imagine things like high blood pressure may also make you more susceptible.
Yes I believe you are correct but that didn't contribute to my outcome as mines was low back then lol xx
 

rebrascora

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Yes, sorry, I wasn't necessarily suggesting that was the case, but I can see how it might look that way. X
 

Kaylz

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Yes, sorry, I wasn't necessarily suggesting that was the case, but I can see how it might look that way. X
No, no, I didn't think you were directing it to me just saying it wasn't part of my problem xx
 
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