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AZ vaccine

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bakebeans

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Morning everyone.
I’m due my 2nd Astrazenica jab tomorrow and really feel torn to if I should have it or not. I’m not looking for any arguments just people’s views and what you would do in my situation.
Im 35 with no other underlying health issues. Last HbA1c was 31. First jab was in March and other than a sore arm for a couple of days and a headache on day 3&4 I felt pretty good. Had an awful headache for about 2 weeks at the end of April but think that was caused by tension worrying about all this.
with everything in the news about the blood clots I can’t help thinking that if I’d not been diabetic I wouldn’t be offered the AZ jab.
May seem a silly question but what would you do?
 
I think the risks from the vaccine are still significantly lower than the risks from Covid. @mikeyB just posted the other day about his daughter suffering a TIA as a result of long Covid. Also I believe this Indian variant hits younger people so that's another reason to get fully vaccinated.
There are risks in everything in life, including getting in a car and driving which is something many of us do every day without even contemplating the risk. It is because this is something that we don't do every day that you are having pause to contemplate it. I have had both AZ vaccines and whilst it has caused havoc with my BG levels for weeks and I had a couple of days of feeling rough I would still take all that over the risk from the virus.
 
Just my thoughts ok. Dad an I are both due our 2nd jab soon , which we will both have . We are far more worried about this ruddy virus as it’s unlikely due to our health that we would survive it if we catch it
The incidents of blood clots caused by the vaccine is actually very low but I do understand it’s 100% if you or you loved ones are ones are one of the unlucky ones.

You also need to consider long Corvid
 
The risks of blood clots with Covid (or the contraceptive pill) are greater than the risks from the vaccine.
And that’s without considering all the other nasties that come with Covid.
No one can force you to have the jab but, for me, a female with no healthcare issues apart from well managed Type 1 diabetes, it was a no brainer. I don’t want Covid and I want to protect anyone who is unable to have the vaccine.
 
Have the jab! I’ve had the first one with no problems and can’t wait for the second. Definitely don’t want to get covid and don’t want my daughter to get it, she’s type 1 and too young to get a vaccination herself at the moment. As everyone has said, the risks from getting covid itself are far greater than the risks from the vaccine. You’re more likely to get blood clots from the contraceptive pill than from this, and nobody makes a big fuss about that. All medications have risks, even headache pills have possible side effects which most people don’t get, nobody worries with those that they might be the unlucky 1% that has problems. I blame the media for scaring everybody about this 😡
 
I felt the same as you did in the end I reasoned that it wasn't too bad with the 1st jab
so decided to go for it, I did have a reaction of inflamation in my arm which is one
of the reactions listed but it did finally settle down and my bloods have now settled
I agree too much frightening media about blood clots does make you wary just way
up how you feel before committing😉
 
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Morning everyone.
I’m due my 2nd Astrazenica jab tomorrow and really feel torn to if I should have it or not. I’m not looking for any arguments just people’s views and what you would do in my situation.
Im 35 with no other underlying health issues. Last HbA1c was 31. First jab was in March and other than a sore arm for a couple of days and a headache on day 3&4 I felt pretty good. Had an awful headache for about 2 weeks at the end of April but think that was caused by tension worrying about all this.
with everything in the news about the blood clots I can’t help thinking that if I’d not been diabetic I wouldn’t be offered the AZ jab.
May seem a silly question but what would you do?

If I was 35 again I would honestly take whatever vaccine they recommended. And that would include the AZ vaccine. The risks are absolutely minimal from what I understand. The AZ isn't the only one with blood clot risks either. I think the Johnson & Johnson one has had incidents too.
If you're worried I'm sure you can request another one. They are work very well but they all come with risks (however small).
 
Morning everyone.
I’m due my 2nd Astrazenica jab tomorrow and really feel torn to if I should have it or not. I’m not looking for any arguments just people’s views and what you would do in my situation.
Im 35 with no other underlying health issues. Last HbA1c was 31. First jab was in March and other than a sore arm for a couple of days and a headache on day 3&4 I felt pretty good. Had an awful headache for about 2 weeks at the end of April but think that was caused by tension worrying about all this.
with everything in the news about the blood clots I can’t help thinking that if I’d not been diabetic I wouldn’t be offered the AZ jab.
May seem a silly question but what would you do?
Go for it 🙂

I had quite a reaction to the first jab, but nothing what so ever for the 2nd.
2nd dose is smaller than the first as well.

Look at it in a different light.......... you having the jab stops you passing on covid to someone else if you are unfortunate to get it.
 
Had 2nd AZ jab yesterday, unlike first one no side effects at all, not even sore arm today. No brainer to have vaccine when you take things into consideration.
 
Morning everyone.
I’m due my 2nd Astrazenica jab tomorrow and really feel torn to if I should have it or not. I’m not looking for any arguments just people’s views and what you would do in my situation.
Im 35 with no other underlying health issues. Last HbA1c was 31. First jab was in March and other than a sore arm for a couple of days and a headache on day 3&4 I felt pretty good. Had an awful headache for about 2 weeks at the end of April but think that was caused by tension worrying about all this.
with everything in the news about the blood clots I can’t help thinking that if I’d not been diabetic I wouldn’t be offered the AZ jab.
May seem a silly question but what would you do?
I had my second vaccine Astrazeneca this week had no side-effects not even a sore arm this time blood glucose stayed exactly the same
 
Im 35 with no other underlying health issues…
with everything in the news about the blood clots I can’t help thinking that if I’d not been diabetic I wouldn’t be offered the AZ jab.

Firstly, you are right you would not have been vaccinated yet if you were not diabetic. But you do have an underlying health condition, and that is diabetes. No matter how well you can control it, it is still there and will cause problems if you slip up. And no matter how small the increase in Covid risk because of it, there is still a higher risk. And that is why you were rightly vaccinated.

Secondly, as already said, the risk of clotting is very low, and from a second dose even lower still. The risk of Covid is high, and with the new variants constantly emerging it is getting higher.

But what you need to remember is that if we were not in a pandemic, the risk of clotting would have passed by without the public knowing or caring. The only reason it is news is because it lead to the deployment of the vaccine being suspended while it was investigated. Something that any other time would have still happened but without any media interest at all.

Look on any medication and you will see a list of side effects, organized into sections by how likely they are. The issue of clotting would have just been one of those, near the end of the list because of how rare it is. It is so rare that even if the vaccine had been tested in trials for longer it would most likely have never been discovered. It needed a large enough sample size, by being deployed in a population, or it to show up. The risk is that small.

And this something that could have happened with any vaccine or medication you take — at any time, rare side effects can be discovered long after something is approved for use — but such events are normally not seen outside of medical journals.

The problem is that the general media does not know how to cover specialist medical stories, and the general public does not know how to understand them. And this then leads to fear. Because it is presented as something scary, and people are not used to such stories that it makes this vaccine seem more dangerous because you have not heard such stories about anything else.

The Covid virus is still far more dangerous and scary than the vaccine. But it is easy to think you might be lucky and not catch it, and it has become normalized after over a year of restrictions that people have become numb to it and its effects. Far more people in the U.K. died in one year from Covid than civilians died here during the six years of World World II. Yet Covid is not talked about in the same terms as the Blitz.

People think if they take the vaccine there is a risk clotting, so it is a real risk.
People think they can be careful so they can avoid Covid, so it is a theoretical risk.

That is wrong, both are real risks, but the chance of suffering effects of Covid are much greater than clotting from the vaccine. And that is before considering that the benefits of not getting Covid only helps one person, the benefits of being vaccinated help everyone they meet. And at its most superficial, the vaccine allows society to open so they can go back to living their lives as they used to, not taking it means restrictions will continue indefinitely.

However, the mosts important thing about the discovery of clotting is that it means doctors now know to watch out for it and how to treat this particular form. So its discovery is good news. It makes the vaccine safer, because now people know to contact their doctor if they experience symptoms, and their doctor knows what to do to prevent it being fatal.

May seem a silly question but what would you do?

You are more likely to die of Covid than you are of clotting.
You may kill other people as a carrier of Covid but will not kill anyone simply by being vaccinated.

I would take the vaccine.
 
I’m 33 and had my second AZ jab this morning. Covid is a bigger risk than clots, especially with diabetes and the potential for cases to rise etc.
 
The vaccine reduces your risk of severe probs from Covid, the risk of blood clots if you get covid are far higher than they are from the vaccine.

Be safe as you can be get the 2nd jab and hope its some protection against covid and the triple variants.

I saw my diabetic nurse yesterday and she said from March this year a lot more younger people without any underlying health conditions are dying from covid. Do get the 2nd jab.
 
with everything in the news about the blood clots I can’t help thinking that if I’d not been diabetic I wouldn’t be offered the AZ jab.
Actually I think you would. Once someone's received the first dose of AZ, that's the one they'll be offered for their second dose. (At your age you probably wouldn't be in the position of being offered a second dose now. But you might be: those who had a first dose of AZ because they're working in healthcare will be offered that for their second dose.)

(I'm told the relevant people in France are being offered different vaccines for their second doses, but I think that's because AZ is no longer approved. A friend of a friend ended up with a different second dose because she forgot her vaccination card and somehow ended up receiving the wrong one; she's apparently not terribly well organised.)
 
Thank you for all of your replies it really has helped. I think I will go ahead with it tomorrow. I’ve heard so many different views about it over the last few weeks that it completely overwhelmed me.
 
I had my second AZ jab Last week. Side effects far less than after the first, just a bit leaden for a day.
 
Thank you for all of your replies it really has helped. I think I will go ahead with it tomorrow. I’ve heard so many different views about it over the last few weeks that it completely overwhelmed me.
Good.
I did have some effects after the AZ first jab, but after the second one, nothing, not even a sore spot where it went in.
 
Son in law was really bad after his first AZ jab - mind, he is 50 not 30 - really fluey, violent shivering, had to have time off work sick - had his second one with fear - no side effects whatsoever.
 
My temperature tonight is 38, though I’ve taken paracetamol, and bgs were up to 17 earlier but improved and feeling better this evening. See how the temperature goes overnight.
 
Glad you decided to go for the second dose @bakebeans

I had almost no side effects from my second AZ, and I’m glad to now have the fuller protection
 
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