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Awful article in Scottish Daily Mail

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It's one of those 'written by a drunken bigot without any journalistic credentials' stories.

Seems that it may well backfire on them. As for the editor, he needs to cut down on his porkpies and lager ration and spend more time researching before he has a coronary.🙄

Rob
 
trying to see the funny side, i was impressed(?) to see that the article suggest you can have a diabetes related condition and not diabetes! self inflicted scrounge was also a good phrase, think i might sign my letter like that!!
sigh
 
I'm guessing the Scottish Daily Mail is affiliated to the english DM ?

If so, it has the excuse that the english one rarely prints anything true or newsworthy, so maybe it's an in-house competition to see who can cause the most anger. They should both be closed down IMO.

Rob
 
Beggers belief!😡
 
What a b----y disgrace! There is enough prejudice out there without this kind of trash! No wonder my hubby calls it the forgets gazette!
 
Cant really believe my eyes to be honest......................
 
Appaently if I eat 5 portions of fruit and vegetables a day i'll no longer be type 1 diabetic. Magic, i'll get onto this right away. Chuck the insulin and just eat fruit and veg. I wonder how long it will be until I go Ketonic. x
 
I think the guy who wrote this should be invited to the next meet\get together.

If he turned up I bet you 50p he would think twice before insulting anyone in future 🙂


Grrrrrrr
 
Edited because I had better not contribute to a thread about weight.
 
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There are a couple of responses to the article in today's SDM, from IPAG and Diabetes UK. Not sure if you'll be able to read this, you might need to change the zoom level on your computer. Not sure I agree with Diabetes UK Scotland';s assertion that Type 2 is 'predominantly lifestyle-related' :( :

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Northerner said:
There are a couple of responses to the article in today's SDM, from IPAG and Diabetes UK. Not sure if you'll be able to read this, you might need to change the zoom level on your computer. Not sure I agree with Diabetes UK Scotland';s assertion that Type 2 is 'predominantly lifestyle-related' :( :
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GAH! What hope do we have of the media getting it right if DUK themselves trot out the 'predominantly lifestyle' line. No wonder folks on this forum get such a hard time.

IMO Diabetes UK should only ever be saying that T2 is a metabolic disorder and drop the 'lifestyle' thing unless they clarify what they are talking about a great deal more.

Metabolic disorder + certain lifestyle choices = harm.

BUT there are 90% of people who make those same lifestyle choices who don't develop D (if you just count the people for whom those choices cause weight gain).
 
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GAH! What hope do we have of the media getting it right if DUK themselves trot out the 'predominantly lifestyle' line. No wonder folks on this forum get such a hard time.

IMO Diabetes UK should only ever be saying that T2 is a metabolic disorder and drop the 'lifestyle' thing unless they clarify what they are talking about a great deal more.

Metabolic disorder + certain lifestyle choices = harm.

BUT there are 90% of people who make those same lifestyle choices who don't develop D (if you just count the people for whom those choices cause weight gain).
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I think the description of T2 as a metabolic disorder would be really useful, like you suggest! I only know about 3-4 t2s, and of those only 1 could fall into the 'lifestyle choice' category - and that was only following a serious injury. And if that stat is right, that 90% don't get T2, it's even more important to be clear.

Anyway, I sent the scunner an email from the link on the original page - doubt the slimy toad will bother to read it but it helped to vent a bit. Right, now I'm off to continue being a scourge of the nation in a state of physical decline... 😡

ps - he's the first person I have ever actually felt would deserve to be diabetic - bit of natural justice for once!!! :(
 
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I think the description of T2 as a metabolic disorder would be really useful, like you suggest! I only know about 3-4 t2s, and of those only 1 could fall into the 'lifestyle choice' category - and that was only following a serious injury. And if that stat is right, that 90% don't get T2, it's even more important to be clear.
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I think it wasn't too far off. A while back I was responding to another being fat *makes* you T2 post somewhere else (FB I think) and I did some hurried number finding. I looked up a report on the number of people classified as either overweight or obese, and compared it to the number of diagnosed T2s in the UK. The number of Dx T2s was only about 10% of the overweight/obese figure.

M
 
Hello once again, haven't been here for a while; been busy over the summer.

Hubby has T2 and although we are both overweight I now resent the fact that Diabetes T2 is put down to lack of exercise and lifestyle and to my shame I was one of those who thought that until we had a friend who had T2 and he was one of the most hard working and; not so fat, people that we knew. I know that they are contributing factors but that's not the whole story.

My husband's sister came to stay; she's a lot older than him and remembers the family. She told me that several family members; (long gone) had Diabetes and remembers most of them being 'skinny'.

We love food and have always eaten well; having 4 kids and not much money when we were young forced me to learn to cook using cheap ingredients. I was cooking with pulses long before they became fashionable.

We should educate people; particularly the young that certain lifestyles and lack of exercise can harm you later but also that some diseases are not always one's own fault. I eat the same as my husband and exercise just a little more although he has been playing golf at least once a week in the last year but I have recently been tested and have no sign of Diabetes so it can't be down to just 'lifestyle' and overeating.

Best wishes to everyone
Cakemaker
 
Nice to hear from you again cakemaker 🙂 It also should be pointed out that just because a person is fat, doesn't mean they are that way because of a poor lifestyle, it may be due to other, far more complex and unavoidable reasons such as medications for another problem. The message being given out is far too simplistic - the majority of people who are overweight do not have diabetes and a significant number of people who have diabetes have never been overweight, so the blanket statements we are constantly hearing these days are very misleading. :(
 
Used to be smokers and drinkers who got a bad press, now it is diabetics. Soon we wont be allowed to leave our own homes because we are not allowed to be diabetic in public.

Sorry dose that sound a bit over sensitive and over dramatic?
 
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