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Another Newbie saying Hi all

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Wannie

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Received diagnosis last Monday via telephone call '' HbA1c is 50 and you are now officially classified as Diabetic'' need to talk about medication, referral to eye clinic and could attend a diabetes education course, have my feet checked and that I needed to take this seriously if I didn't could encounter problems with my sight and amputations, would need another blood test in 3 months and assess again after that result. Worried me, but have only recently moved to this area and GP, but did say that I would prefer to try and lower my HbA1c through diet and lifestyle changes, nurse then went on to say that I must cut carbs out - potatoes, cakes, fruit etc queried fruit and told should restrict myself to two pieces a day and to have them as snacks and that she would put me down to retest in 6 moths as it would take that long to show some improvement.
Have been reading lots on this site and reading threads on here, not so worried now, my questions are How many carbs a day can I allow myself?
I believe that as long as I'm careful there are a number of fruits that I can eat and may be beneficial, am I right?
 
Welcome to the forum @Wannie

Sorry you were subjected to what sounds like a pretty frightening and doom-laden introduction to diabetes! 😱

Why do some HCPs think that’s a good way to motivate people?! Diabetes IS a serious condition, but it’s also one that can usually be managed well with a few changes and adaptations - it’s something that you can learn to live well with, and it shouldn’t stop you doing things you enjoy.

Often people don’t realise how weary, worn down and lethargic they have been feeling. Erratic and elevated blood glucose levels can be exhausting and are linked with low mood, but this may have come on quite gradually. Making a few positive changes can give you more energy, a clearer mind, and a brighter outlook. Plus the regular checks you get after a diagnosis with diabetes mean that any potential problems could be spotted earlier, and can be sorted out sooner.

One of the biggest questions when trying to get to grips with your diabetes is often ‘what can I eat’ and while there are obvious things like cakes, biscuits, sweets and sugary drinks that you will want to cut out straight away, you might be surprised how much *all* carbohydrate affects your BG levels, including rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, pastry, grains, cereals and as your nurse has pointed out - many fruits (berries are usually the gentlest on the BGs, with more tropical and ‘warm climate’ fruits like bananas, grapes, mangoes, pineapple being trickier)

Many new members find it can be really helpful to keep a brutally honest food diary for a week or two. Note down everything you eat and drink, along with a reasonable estimate of the total carbohydrate content in your meals and snacks - it doesn’t have to be gram-perfect, the nearest 5-10g is fine. It might sound like a bit of a faff, and will involve weighing portions, squinting at the fine print on packaging, and possibly looking up things on the internet, but it will give you a really good idea of which foods are the main sources of carbs in your menu. Once you can see which meals or snacks are your ‘big hitters’, and where carbs might be unexpectedly lurking, the process might also suggest some likely candidates for swaps, portion reductions, or using lower carb alternatives (eg celeriac or swede mash, or cauli ‘rice’).

If you’d like to monitor your progress more directly than waiting every 6 months to see if your guesses were right, you might cholse to self-fund a BG meter. The most affordable meters members here have found are the SD Gluco Navii or the Spirit Tee2 - which both have test strips at around £8 for 50.

That way you can check immediately before, and again 2hrs after eating a meal or snack (or piece of fruit!) and see how your metabolism has coped. Ideally you’d want to keep the rises down to 2-3mmol/L or less between the before and after readings.

Good luck, and let us know how things go!
 
Received diagnosis last Monday via telephone call '' HbA1c is 50 and you are now officially classified as Diabetic'' need to talk about medication, referral to eye clinic and could attend a diabetes education course, have my feet checked and that I needed to take this seriously if I didn't could encounter problems with my sight and amputations, would need another blood test in 3 months and assess again after that result. Worried me, but have only recently moved to this area and GP, but did say that I would prefer to try and lower my HbA1c through diet and lifestyle changes, nurse then went on to say that I must cut carbs out - potatoes, cakes, fruit etc queried fruit and told should restrict myself to two pieces a day and to have them as snacks and that she would put me down to retest in 6 moths as it would take that long to show some improvement.
Have been reading lots on this site and reading threads on here, not so worried now, my questions are How many carbs a day can I allow myself?
I believe that as long as I'm careful there are a number of fruits that I can eat and may be beneficial, am I right?
Welcome to the forum.
You seem to have been given some fairly good advice and it is very possible by reducing carbohydrates and that is a approach that many find successful. The low carb route is regarded as being less than 130g per day but some do go lower. It is better to cut down slowly to avoid issues with your eyes and nerves. Keeping a food diary and estimating the carbs you are having and then cutting down by one third for a couple of weeks, then another third etc until you get to where you need to be. As far a fruit is concerned then berries are the lowest carb so people often stick to those, tropical fruits are highest so are best avoided.
By having protein and healthy fats, vegetables and salads with only small portions of any higher carb foods you should not feel hungry.
This link may help you with some ideas for modifying your diet. https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
 
Hi and thank you for your response everydayupsanddowns, to be fair to the nurse it was nearly 6pm when she phoned and she was probably in a rush and didn't want me delaying her further by asking questions. After a couple of hours of panic I took to research and found this site.
The bloods were done as part of my 'annual mot' because I'm of a certain age, however because of covid and moving haven't been done since 2019, I haven't noticed any symptoms but wasn't aware low mood was one until now.
The fruits that are ok i.e Berries do you have to restrict portions or can you eat some freely? Is there a list that shows carbs in fruit and veg?
After reading on here have tried a couple of swaps and enjoyed them.
 
Hi Leadinglights thank you for your reply the info on counting carbs is really helpful, last week I cut them all for two or three days by Friday I had a bad headache and felt 'off' and thought I may have swung from one extreme to another too fast. so have had a couple of small boiled potatoes at a couple of meals and a slice of toast at breakfast, but haven't had fish & chips, chocolate, fresh cream trifle, biscuits this week! Having moved to the coast all things I have enjoyed too much of really.
 
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Hi Leadinglights, thank you for your reply the info on counting carbs is really helpful, last week I cut them all for two or three days by Friday I had a bad headache and felt 'off' and thought I may have swung from one extreme to another too fast. so have had a couple of small boiled potatoes at a couple of meals and a slice of toast at breakfast, but haven't had fish & chips, chocolate, fresh cream trifle, biscuits this week!
Yes cutting carbs down to virtually nothing too quickly can give you headaches, some people refer to it as Keto flu. Making sure you drink plenty also helps as cutting carbs also tends to make you lose fluid and it is easy to become dehydrated.
If you like deserts then sugarfree jelly with berries and cream are a good or Kvarg deserts with some berries. Dark chocolate as a treat but just a square or two not the whole bar.
Nature Valley protein nut bars, KIND or shop own are also a low carb 'snack' items or nuts.
I cut to 70g per day but too quickly and had problems with my vision but didn't realise until I read it on here what had caused it, so definitely gently does it with reducing carbs.
 
UPDATE
Feeling more positive today, seems ages since I posted and admit I was nervous about the whole scenario around the diabetes diagnosis. But thanks to the advice on here, I have bought the book Carbs and Cals, watch my portion size, carbs and calories and haven't had any fish n chips, trifle etc weight has dropped in 15 days from 74.9kg to 72kg combination of diet, walking dogs and gardening I think.
Phoned surgery, made an appointment and spoke to diabetic nurse yesterday, with a face to face meeting in a fortnight. She was far more positive about everything and answered my questions with explanations for answers.
Thank you all for responding to my original post
 
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