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Hi, i just wanted to get some advice from anyone willing to share some. I am type one diabetic and i take two types of injections. I have always struggled with my weight throughout my life, i was 24 stone at the age of 18, and i understand that has more than likely caused me to become diabetic my eating habits were terrible. I have struggled since i was 18 with control of my diabetes. I began to loose weight drastically and then when i found out it was due to me having diabetes i was sent to the hospital and i began to take injections and tablets, soon after as my blood sugars stabled, i began to put back on more weight. I then stupidly decided to stop taking my medication, as i know this would aid me in losing weight. I have done this cycle time and time again and really i feel enough is enough. I need to be healthy and control my diabetes as i do not want to die from the condition, it is a very stupid things to do. I had always been very big and with losing the weight, i just felt so much better about myself, i could go into shops and purchase clothes instead of going on big sized websites all the time, and i started getting lots of compliments which i felt really good about myself. I have always had self belief issues and still do, i never really see myself as being any good for anything, same thing when it comes to jobs, girls the lot really i just do not see my self as worth anything. I am going to get my diabetes under control, and really i just wanted some advice about diet and what diet methods are safe for a type one diabetic, i know this post is long winded but i just wanted to give my kinda backstory so you know a little about me.
 
A few tips that seem to be working for me. I cut out almost all the high GI, starchy foods like spuds, pasta, white rice and white bread. I use portion control rather than calory counting as it seems easier for me and I bulk up meals with plenty of veggies, especially green veg. I also eat more slowly and so feel full sooner. And, no snacking, though I do try to have 5 smaller meals a day instead of three larger ones, I find I don't get so hungry that way. I try to cook my own meals from scratch so I can control the amount of salt and fat I take on board. I use herbs and spices to flavour things rather than salt. I'm losing weight now steadily, if slowly and folk are starting to notice there's less of me.

It hasn't been easy as I have absolutely no willpower, but it's worth it now I'm starting to see some real results.
 
Hi, i just wanted to get some advice from anyone willing to share some. I am type one diabetic and i take two types of injections. I have always struggled with my weight throughout my life, i was 24 stone at the age of 18, and i understand that has more than likely caused me to become diabetic my eating habits were terrible. I have struggled since i was 18 with control of my diabetes. I began to loose weight drastically and then when i found out it was due to me having diabetes i was sent to the hospital and i began to take injections and tablets, soon after as my blood sugars stabled, i began to put back on more weight. I then stupidly decided to stop taking my medication, as i know this would aid me in losing weight. I have done this cycle time and time again and really i feel enough is enough. I need to be healthy and control my diabetes as i do not want to die from the condition, it is a very stupid things to do. I had always been very big and with losing the weight, i just felt so much better about myself, i could go into shops and purchase clothes instead of going on big sized websites all the time, and i started getting lots of compliments which i felt really good about myself. I have always had self belief issues and still do, i never really see myself as being any good for anything, same thing when it comes to jobs, girls the lot really i just do not see my self as worth anything. I am going to get my diabetes under control, and really i just wanted some advice about diet and what diet methods are safe for a type one diabetic, i know this post is long winded but i just wanted to give my kinda backstory so you know a little about me.

Hi rossmillercontact399358,

Welcome to the forum.🙂Do you have a supportive Medical team? Have you spoken to them about your weight issue? Losing weight for a Type 1 diabetic is exactly the same as anyone losing weight - cut down on fats and sugar and work out your daily calories and stick to it. You also have to do exercise - diet alone is not enough.

You dont get Type 1 through being overweight - it is an autoimmune condition. Abusing your insulin will inevitably end in disaster as you run a very high risk of all the complications so doing that really is not a good idea as you know. I am sure there will be others along soon to help and advise but as I say it really is no different than anyone losing weight.🙂Bev
 
Hi

Welcome. You're not on your own in stopping taking your insulin to help loose weight. Have you seen DWED? http://www.dwed.org.uk/Home/ They're a group who specialise in this kind of thing, which is sometimes referred to as diabulimia. They have an active Facebook site where people talk about their experiences of this - it might be worth a look on there? http://www.facebook.com/groups/DiabulimiaSupport

Good luck, and well done for trying to take control

Alison
 
Thanks everyone for your advice. I will try looking up those sites, i do have a medical team who have been very good with me. I just need to start getting on the right path and taking my health seriously.
 
There's a lot there. Let's go through this in stages.

i was 24 stone at the age of 18, and i understand that has more than likely caused me to become diabetic my eating habits were terrible.

NO.

Type 1 diabetes is NOT caused by what you eat, or how you eat, or how much you eat. Type 1 is an autoimmune condition. Sadly (or gladly?), there was absolutely NOTHING you could have done to prevent it. You could have been the world's greatest marathon runner and it would still have happened. Do not blame yourself. Your diet did not cause you to get diabetes. The only thing your diet can do is influence how your diabetes will affect you in the long term.

I then stupidly decided to stop taking my medication, as i know this would aid me in losing weight. I have done this cycle time and time again and really i feel enough is enough. I need to be healthy and control my diabetes as i do not want to die from the condition, it is a very stupid things to do.

You are by no means the first person to do this. There's actually a name for it, 'diabulemia'. The fact that you have decided enough is enough and you aren't going to to do it anymore is a major step forward.

I am going to get my diabetes under control, and really i just wanted some advice about diet and what diet methods are safe for a type one diabetic

Good for you. And this question is less simple than it sounds.

I'm going to suggest something which won't be to everyone's tastes here. The following is NOT medical advice. It's ideas that should inspire you to do your own research and consult with qualified professionals.

You say you want to avoid the yo-yo cycle. Therefore you need to get to grips with some basic points about fat storage.

Body fat is not caused by eating too much fat. Or even eating too much. Body fat is excess blood sugar, converted by insulin to an alternative form for storage.

Whenever there is more sugar in your blood than your body needs, provided there is insulin, this excess sugar is converted to body fat. Insulin also inhibits the metabolism of fat.

That's why when you don't take your medication, you lose weight quickly. Your excess blood sugar just stays there, and instead of being converted to fat, rips your body to shreds like sandpaper. And because your body can't metabolise this glucose, it metabolises the fat.

So in the first case, it looks like you're in a catch-22. If you take insulin, you put on weight but control your diabetes. If you don't take insulin, you lose weight but you get the diabetes complications.

Except, it's not a catch-22 at all.

There are three major food groups in your diet: protein, carbohydrates and fat. Only carbohydrates affect your blood sugar level significantly, which means you need to take more insulin for them.

In other words, if we know that taking less insulin promotes weight loss, then logically if there was a way of taking less insulin WITHOUT affecting your blood sugar, that would give you the best of both worlds - weight loss and diabetes control.

See where this is going?

The dark and dirty truth is a salad baguette will probably in the long run make you fatter than eating steak and eggs. Therefore you may want to investigate what impact reducing your carb intake has on your weight and your control.

Importantly though, you need to be on a basal-bolus regime for this to work. You say you have two types of injections but it's not clear whether you mean you are taking a basal and then bolusing when you eat, or if you are on mix insulins twice a day. You CANNOT reduce your carb intake in mix insulins. So if this is the case for you, a very good first step would be to shift to a more intensive but more flexible insulin regime. Giz a shout if you want some more pointers, this is just the initial overview.
 
DeusXM, thanks very much for your reply, i found it very interesting.

I take lantus insulin in the morning at 40 units as my doctor advised me its slow releasing. Then i take novorapid after each meal at 4 units per meal. The doctor has advised me i will learn a carb to insulin ratio, but i have yet to make the appointment with the diabetic nurse. I really do want to change for the better of my health but i get very depressed at what i think im doing to myself. I often feel like whats the point if ive done the damage then nothing is going to help me, i know this is a very dim and grim attitude to have, but i just feel like ive done the worst to myself already. I have started getting pains in my feet and my legs, i am always very wary of checking my feet as my mother had her leg amputated and in the long run the doctor advised it may not have been so bad if her diabetes was under better control.

Thanks for all of the advice you have given me i really do appreciate it.
 
Deus is absolutely spot on.

Try to get to that nurse appointment as soon as you can; the sooner you can get your doses sorted out and you carb ratio calculated , everything becomes soooo much simpler. Because you have a basis to actually calculate what insulin you need, it isn't suck it and see, it isn't you are on your OWN any more.

You might find reading the following links helpful to understand better what each type of insulin does. Ignore the part at the bottom of the second link about adjusting your basal for now, that's not Lesson 1 LOL

http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/info/?page_id=109

http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/info/?page_id=120
 
Thanks very much for the links, this site is very good it has given me the boost ive needed reading through many of its posts.
 
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