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Adf

Soon I will have no choice. I've already had to stop buying meat and eggs and cottage cheese and soon soups. I'm very lucky to already have 1 meal. Each day. And the food banks won't give stuff but what is on their lists even if you have health conditions or no teeth or both. Even if they have helpful foods.
So it would help me more to hear from others who have to live this way. What do they eat? What is most filling? Things like that.
I'm aware of the dangers of insulin. Its been grilled into for 10 years in every appt. Despite rare hypos.
 
Tuesday said:
Does anyone practice adf?
Alternate day fasting?
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It’s not safe to do that on mixed insulin. You’d need to go back to seperate long and short acting insulins if you want to do this.
 
Tuesday said:
Soon I will have no choice. I've already had to stop buying meat and eggs and cottage cheese and soon soups. I'm very lucky to already have 1 meal. Each day. And the food banks won't give stuff but what is on their lists even if you have health conditions or no teeth or both. Even if they have helpful foods.
So it would help me more to hear from others who have to live this way. What do they eat? What is most filling? Things like that.
I'm aware of the dangers of insulin. Its been grilled into for 10 years in every appt. Despite rare hypos.
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I think there are more benefits in the UK for people who are struggling so much with being able to buy food and medication if diabetic people do not have to pay for, not just diabetic meds but meds for other conditions as well so they would be able to get the meds to enable them to eat proper meals even if they have to use food banks or budget groceries.
One of the complaints here is that often the food they get needs cooking and they cannot afford the gas or electricity to do that.
I'm not sure people in that situation would be able to have access to the internet and so a forum like this. But there may be
 
Leadinglights said:
I'm not sure people in that situation would be able to have access to the internet and so a forum like this. But there may be
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Plenty of free WiFi locations around most towns
 
Leadinglights said:
They may do (or something similar) IF dietary managed Type 2 but a dangerous thing to do for anyone taking insulin.
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Dangerous for anyone taking insulin? I cannot understand why it is dangerous for someone taking basal bolus insulin.
I understand the OP has started mixed insulin which is a different matter but as someone taking basal bolus, I have the flexibility to eat when I want without risk
 
helli said:
Dangerous for anyone taking insulin? I cannot understand why it is dangerous for someone taking basal bolus insulin.
I understand the OP has started mixed insulin which is a different matter but as someone taking basal bolus, I have the flexibility to eat when I want without risk
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But only every other day ?
 
Hi @Tuesday in your position, on mixed insulin it is dangerous to do ADF. If you only have food available on alternate days, could you ask to be switched to basal/bolus regime. This would then give you the flexibility to eat whenever you want to. Your basal insulin will deal with the glucose your liver releases automatically, then you can use the bolus to deal with the meals that you have available. This may also help as it sounds like you have little choice about theat foods you are given.

The basal/bolus regime will take a bit of work sorting out counting carbs and adjusting your doses to match your meals but it would be a lot more flexible.
 
I just got on the mixed insulin at my request.
I guess I could skip the insulin totally on the off eating days.
My biggest beef is that I refuse to eat just because someone is telling me to or because a clock says to.
I will do whatever it takes NOT to regain my lost weight back.
Safely of course.
 
Tuesday said:
I guess I could skip the insulin totally on the off eating days.
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Not sure about that. The liver produces 10g of glucose an hour when no dietary sources are available, even more in people with type 2 diabetes.
The mixed insulin will have 'basal' insulin designed to deal with what the liver produces.
(I'm sure the T1s will know more than me about it!)
 
harbottle said:
Not sure about that. The liver produces 10g of glucose an hour when no dietary sources are available, even more in people with type 2 diabetes.
The mixed insulin will have 'basal' insulin designed to deal with what the liver produces.
(I'm sure the T1s will know more than me about it!)
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My guess (and it's only a guess) is that there could be all kinds of unintended consequences from eating only every other day whilst taking (any form of) insulin, given that insulin's usually prescribed on the basis that the person will be eating every day. So, in Tuesday's position, I'd seek medical advice.
 
CliffH said:
My guess (and it's only a guess) is that there could be all kinds of unintended consequences from eating only every other day whilst taking (any form of) insulin, given that insulin's usually prescribed on the basis that the person will be eating every day. So, in Tuesday's position, I'd seek medical advice.
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Yep, definitely seek professional advice.
 
CliffH said:
My guess (and it's only a guess) is that there could be all kinds of unintended consequences from eating only every other day whilst taking (any form of) insulin, given that insulin's usually prescribed on the basis that the person will be eating every day. So, in Tuesday's position, I'd seek medical advice.
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While I would definitely seek medical advice with mixed insulin, why do you think it would be need with basal bolus?
I have had the (very) occasion day when I have not eaten. Taking basal insulin, I only needed a little bolus correction to maintain a stable BG.

To my understanding, basal bolus insulin is prescribed on the basis of having flexibility to eat when and how often you want.
 
I am back to eating twice a day at around 12 hourly intervals as my foray into 'dieting' did not produce the desired nor expected results.
Fasting for 22 hours a day using the milkshakes as part of my nutrition raised my HbA1c - not a lot, but it took me back into the diabetic range, an important negative psychologically.
I do not use any medication of course - but what I discovered just throws one more spanner into the works of the idea of some controlling mechanism for the Human metabolism in general, never mind ones with added broken gears.
 
helli said:
While I would definitely seek medical advice with mixed insulin, why do you think it would be need with basal bolus?
I have had the (very) occasion day when I have not eaten. Taking basal insulin, I only needed a little bolus correction to maintain a stable BG.

To my understanding, basal bolus insulin is prescribed on the basis of having flexibility to eat when and how often you want.
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I don't know: I'm just thinking that (as people often say on this forum) the effects of diabetes can be hard to predict for any individual. If I were planning a significant change to my eating habits (such as shifting from eating every day to eating every other day), I'd want to consult with my clinical team first.
 
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