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Hi Iike most people I enjoy a drink, but I am not a regular drinker, just occasionally and have found a drink called Ghost Ship which is low alcohol 0.5% abv with an orange flavour I like it a lot, I forget at the moment calorie content but I think it's low or zero. If anyone else drinks this beer I would like to know what they think and is it OK to drink it. Nocker
 
It's 4.4g Carbs per 100 ml compared to 3.3g per 100 ml for Old Speckled Hen. The low alcohol is appealing though.
 
Hi dishevelled not all pubs sell it but if you try it you may like it its not unpleasant a little gassy but OK. thanks for your reply , Nocker
 
harbottle said:
4.4g of carbs per bottle!
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4.4g per 100ml according to the nutrition info so the 500ml bottle is a whopping 22g carb and with Kcals 23 per 100ml, 115 Kcals per bottle.
 
Yes, I saw my mistake and removed my post...
Strangely, I can drinks pints of beer and BG doesn't rise. Max I've tried is 3 and I think it only went into the sixes!
 
harbottle said:
Yes, I saw my mistake and removed my post...
Strangely, I can drinks pints of beer and BG doesn't rise. Max I've tried is 3 and I think it only went into the sixes!
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My liver has enough to do working in tandem with my pancreas to manage my BG without me giving it the added burden of dealing with alcohol. I was a non-drinker before my T2 diagnosis but would have quit anyway after diagnosis.
 
Nocker said:
Hi Iike most people I enjoy a drink, but I am not a regular drinker, just occasionally and have found a drink called Ghost Ship which is low alcohol 0.5% abv with an orange flavour I like it a lot, I forget at the moment calorie content but I think it's low or zero. If anyone else drinks this beer I would like to know what they think and is it OK to drink it. Nocker
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I tried it at the weekend for the first time and really liked it. Just had 2 so hopefully no serious harm done.
 
harbottle said:
Yes, I saw my mistake and removed my post...
Strangely, I can drinks pints of beer and BG doesn't rise. Max I've tried is 3 and I think it only went into the sixes!
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It maybe important to note that your diabetes is in remission if I remember rightly, whereas the OP's may not be, so whilst you can now get away with 2 or 3 beers occasionally or even regularly, someone who currently has a raised HbA1c may not be able to afford to challenge their system with those extra carbs. Just throwing that out there as something to consider.
 
rebrascora said:
It maybe important to note that your diabetes is in remission if I remember rightly, whereas the OP's may not be, so whilst you can now get away with 2 or 3 beers occasionally or even regularly, someone who currently has a raised HbA1c may not be able to afford to challenge their system with those extra carbs. Just throwing that out there as something to consider.
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I have no idea if it's in remission. I still take 500mg of Metformin, but it's generally between 4 and 7 most of the time, with the odd peek over into 7.
 
Hi Harbottle my doc wants me to take 500mg Metformin, why do you take it ? and what's is for? I never see my doctor always a phone call or a text and I am a bit reluctant to take it as I am on 6 different tablets already 4 for high blood pressure, 1 enlarges prostate, 1 Vitamin D I have also tried to beat diabetes with dieting and my dieting has gone well I have lost 2st 10lb but its taken a while to do it but I am still type 2diabetic. And JM Brolly do you think Ghost Ship is no good then or bad for you like yourself I can take it or leave it now life has changed a lot since finding out about this diabetes would not say its for the better either.
 
Metformin can help lower blood sugar by improving insulin sensitivity and makes the liver from produce a smaller amount of glucose. It may help bring blood sugar down, but 500mg is a very low dose. A max dose is 2000mg a day. Do you measure you blood sugar?
 
Hi No don't use blood sugar measure I shall have to start BUT which one? I have had that many blood tests this year I presume it's all because of the different tablet's I am on 6 a day at moment with one to come. Was taking on no med 3yrs ago for anything because of bad to side effects.
 
That beer contains quite a lot of carbs in a bottle, so might be best avoided. Do you know what your hba1c was? That should give an indication of how far into the diabetes zone you are.

I use a Contour Blue meter, strips are quite reasonable (10 pounds a pot) and it’s got Bluetooth connectivity and a good app that integrates with the health app on my phone. I got it for free from the manufacturer by filling in a form on a website.

All meters meet the same standard for accuracy.
 
Hi @Nocker. We are both in that age range where body systems begin to creak and choices have to be made about whether you are going to live with the results, change your lifestyle (where possible) to slow things down, or to take medication to make life easier. I'm happy to take all three options with my creaks, stop worrying about them, and get on with doing things with those bits that still work OK. I take half a dozen pills for one thing or another and I am a bit dubious about the need for some of them but take them because on balance they are much more likely to do good than harm.

When it comes to blood glucose monitoring, all the finger prick systems work equally well. Pick the fanciest, the cheapest, most expensive, or whatever, depending on your particular thought processes. I'm happy with the free one I got from the surgery but then all I am interested in is the raw data, I can do my own interpretation and analysis.

I long ago stopped thinking about whether things were "safe" or "not safe" as in your original question. Safety is not absolute, it is relative. Something is safer than something else. Driving on the left hand side of the road in the UK is safer than driving on the right. That does not make it safe. People come to harm whilst driving on the left.

Is one beer safer than another? Without defining an awful lot of parameters on which to make some sort of judgement you really cannot say. In any case, the answer you get will depend on whether the person you ask is selling it, buying it, lying in the gutter with a vicious headache from drinking too much of it, or getting grief for spending the rent money on it!
 
Yes, I second docb. I still eat carbs, but just make sure the portion doesn't cause blood sugar to stay elevated for long (The problem with T2D is not blood sugar going up, that's natural, but the clearance rate being very slow.) A small potato, for instance, a small piece of bread, and every now and then a small tub of ice-cream. From using finger pricks I know these don't cause me an issue.
 
for anyone interested my height is 5ft 9 weight 12st.4lb. BMI should be 12st. HbA1c 49 ( still dieting
 
Martin.A said:
4.4g per 100ml according to the nutrition info so the 500ml bottle is a whopping 22g carb and with Kcals 23 per 100ml, 115 Kcals per bottle.
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I generally reckon on 20ish g of carbs in a pint of ale, and 10ish for lagers and ciders. I never used to add insulin for beer (on DSNs instruction in my 20s) but since CGM and insulin pump have made it easy I often add about half the insulin I might normally assign to the carbs for the first pint or two. I rarely have much more than 2-3 pints, but a little extra insulin seems to tame the spike before the alcohol starts to bring my BG back down.
 
Docb said:
Hi @Nocker. We are both in that age range where body systems begin to creak and choices have to be made about whether you are going to live with the results, change your lifestyle (where possible) to slow things down, or to take medication to make life easier. I'm happy to take all three options with my creaks, stop worrying about them, and get on with doing things with those bits that still work OK. I take half a dozen pills for one thing or another and I am a bit dubious about the need for some of them but take them because on balance they are much more likely to do good than harm.

When it comes to blood glucose monitoring, all the finger prick systems work equally well. Pick the fanciest, the cheapest, most expensive, or whatever, depending on your particular thought processes. I'm happy with the free one I got from the surgery but then all I am interested in is the raw data, I can do my own interpretation and analysis.

I long ago stopped thinking about whether things were "safe" or "not safe" as in your original question. Safety is not absolute, it is relative. Something is safer than something else. Driving on the left hand side of the road in the UK is safer than driving on the right. That does not make it safe. People come to harm whilst driving on the left.

Is one beer safer than another? Without defining an awful lot of parameters on which to make some sort of judgement you really cannot say. In any case, the answer you get will depend on whether the person you ask is selling it, buying it, lying in the gutter with a vicious headache from drinking too much of it, or getting grief for spending the rent money on it!
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Thanks for the reply much appreciated and I realise and know Doctors and nurses and every one are doing their best for us as individuals so I refuse nothing but side effects can be killers one at the moment is a doozy Spironolactone is any one on those ?
 
Thanks @Nocker. Not heard of that pill which seems to be a diuretic - not something I need bearing in mind some of my creaking bits! Coming back to your original question - no beer is safe as far as I am concerned. That's nothing to do with diabetes, it's more to do with the speed it goes through and the need to find a toilet every 15 minutes for the next couple of hours.

As you might have guessed I take the view that you get to a point in life when you have got to be a bit pragmatic about things and as far as I am concerned I am decently past that. Work with what you have got, I say.
 
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