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24,000 deaths a year could be avoided

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PhilT

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Interesting article about unneccessary deaths due to lack of care for diabetics.

Maybe the NHS will do something to improve it's care and support for diabetics.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16147731
 
I read that first thong this morning!! Scary!! Let's hope it'll make NHS do more and these diabetics who aren't taking care of themselves - look after yourselves or your children or whoever you're looking after 🙂
 
The report makes good amo for carb counting and test strips me thinks :D
 
Ruth Goode said:
I read that first thong this morning!!
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I wonder where your mind was going when you wrote this. 😛 As to the article, it does make for sobering reading. 2/3 of Type 1s aren't getting proper care. 😱 Not to mention I'm 2.6 times more likely to die, *shrugs* the great ones always die young. :D
 
Not only do I feel more depressed after reading this article, but you could have warned me that there's a picture of someone injecting themself!!! Think I need to go and lie down now!! 🙄
 
Radio 4 did quite a bit about this report on the Today programme. Impressed they had someone explain the difference between Type 1 and Type 2. Did not hear them mention test strips. They were very concerned about the young women who die because of poor control.
 
It is being discussed on Jeremy Vine Radio 2 now.
 
Can't listen to jeremy vine- feeling sick enough today already! 🙄 i heard this on bbc breakfsst this morning, it's a shame they don't seem to be asking more pertinent questions like why is care so poor? Why is it young women who are dying so much more often? To my mind there's a massive link between the way the media portray diabetics (of any type) and the effect this has on people's behaviour ie denial, not taking full insulin dose to avoid weight gain, not testing or injecting in public for fear of 'looking like a freak' etcetc... As far as i am concerned, the media has blood on it's hands in this case. 😡
 
It was the headline on the Daily Express this morning.😱
 
It was also discussed on Vanessa's show on Radio London. I sent the following email and she read it out.


Hi Vanessa,
I was diagnosed in June and it was life changing. Visiting the doctor for something entirely unrelated, my wonderful GP said, "While you are here.........". As well as the diabetes, she also found that I had an underactive thyroid. The treatment I have had from my surgery has been five star and I feel really cared for. Since June I have lost weight (not sure how much because I don't weigh myself but my clothes are much looser). I have also started walking every day and am much fitter. Luckily I did not have to change my diet much as I am a vegetarian but I did have to learn about portion control which was hard because I have always been greedy. My sugar levels are under control and I feel so well.
Thank you for highlighting this important subject. You might also mention www.diabetessupport.co.uk I have found a wonderful group of supportive people who are always there to answer questions.
Linda
 
Thanks for mentioning us Linda, good that they read out your email as it gives a very positive and hopeful message 🙂
 
Twitchy said:
Why is it young women who are dying so much more often?
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They interviewed someone on the Radio 4 Today programme (sorry, I was only vaguely awake) who did say that the figures may be slightly distorted by the fact that more men than women die young 'naturally'. So that explains why, proportionally, it seems that the figures are worse for women than men at that age.

It wasn't clear whether that explains the entire difference, but I suspect not.
 
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Just speculation, here - and not implying that all young men with diabetes and without partners are irresponsible, nor that all partners of young women with diabetes are less than useful, nor that all people have partners of different sexes.

Having said all that, the difference in death rates, could be because young men are more likely to have female partners / girlfriends looking after them, whereas young women are more likely to have male partners / boyfriends, who may be less good at looking after them.

There's evidence from the world of criminology, for example, that young men who have committed crimes, tend to give up crime when they get responsibilities / partners / children ie they are less likely to behave more responsibly for themselves alone.
 
They interviewed someone on the Radion 4 Today programme (sorry, I was only vaguely awake) who did say that the figures may be slightly distorted by the fact that more men than women die young 'naturally'. So that explains why, proportionally, it seems that the figures are worse for women than men at that ageIt wasn't clear whether that explains the entire difference, but I suspect not..
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This is how they put it in the original press release

About one in 3,300 women in England will die between the ages of 15 to 34; but this risk increases nine-fold among women with type 1 diabetes to one in 360, and six-fold among women with type 2 diabetes to one in 520.

A similar picture is true for young men with diabetes; men aged 15 to 34 in the English population are much more likely to die than women – at one in every 1,530; but this risk rises four-fold for men with type 1 diabetes to one in 360, and by just under four-fold among those with type 2 diabetes to one in 430.
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Twitchy said:
Can't listen to jeremy vine- feeling sick enough today already! 🙄 i heard this on bbc breakfsst this morning, it's a shame they don't seem to be asking more pertinent questions like why is care so poor? Why is it young women who are dying so much more often? To my mind there's a massive link between the way the media portray diabetics (of any type) and the effect this has on people's behaviour ie denial, not taking full insulin dose to avoid weight gain, not testing or injecting in public for fear of 'looking like a freak' etcetc... As far as i am concerned, the media has blood on it's hands in this case. 😡
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Couldn't agree more Twitchy (including the part about Jeremy Vine😉)
 
This is really scary, although sure like some else mentioned the figures are probably distorted a bit. Its still very worrying though!
 
HelenM said:
This is how they put it in the original press release
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So, looking at that the risk of dying for men and women with Type 1 is precisely the same (1 in 360), whereas with Type 2 it's 1 in 520 for blokes and 1 in 430 for lasses (I don't know why I switched to the alternative gender description!).

The Type 2 figures are only 'slightly' different and it may just be statistical (maybe).

So, the risk of dying looks pretty much the same to me and I don't know why they are highlighting the 'fold' increase from the norms. Because, surely, badly controlled diabetes is probably going to be the main cause of death in both sexes irrespective of whether they were going to die anyway from other causes.

Andy (or have I missed something?) HB 🙂
 
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