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14 weeks later and a bit more news

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SunnyLouis

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Hi, I asked the question on here quite a few weeks ago about being type 2 but going really low once or twice a day on my readings. Now going into hospital to have an oral test for 'Post Gluecose Hypoglycaemia?' Can anyone help me with any info? Oh I'm not on any medication yet, so struggling a bit.
 
Ah, well .....

It is possible after a low, to spike up again really high, or after a high, to drop really low. I imagine - but haven't actually got a clue! - they'll do your BG, then ask you to eat or drink something with a measured amount of glucose, then test you again after it, several times at various intervals, to try and see what's going on.

However when you get there - ask them to explain exactly what they are going to do anyway!

I should take a book if I were you - sounds like it won't be a quick visit!
 
I don't have diabetes myself but I do get post glucose hypoglycaemia. In my case it is caused by the pancreas producing too much insulin in response to me eating/drinking something sugary, particularly on an empty stomach. Caffeine makes it worse. So for example in the days when I commuted into London, if I had a sugary cappuccino on arrival at the office (about 2hrs after breakfast), then half an hour later I'd be shaking and sweating and feeling faint. Similarly for mid morning snacks of biscuits or choc. Things improved when I switched to decaf without sugar and bananas instead of biccies!

People with type 2 are usually still producing insulin, though either insufficient for their needs and/or not used properly in the body due to insulin resistance. But medications obviously do affect this, and the insulin output from your pancreas might vary a lot during the day/night, depending on your activity levels and what you eat. I'd recommend keeping a food diary to see if you can link anything to your hypo symptoms. Caffeine and sugar combos are definitely to be avoided, also high GI foods taken on an empty stomach.
 
Am I doing this right as I seem to be the only one that has a pair of glasses on my status? Is that stopping people replying? Thank you to the two people who have replied.
 
Am I doing this right as I seem to be the only one that has a pair of glasses on my status? Is that stopping people replying? Thank you to the two people who have replied.
Hi SunnyLouis 🙂 Yes, you are doing it right - the 'glasses' mean that you are 'watching' the thread so you should get an alert when someone posts something new on it 🙂 I can't add much to @Redkite's explanation of the problem, as far as I know it's an overreaction of the body to certain meals (usually sugary or high in carbohydrate, but not necessarily). So, it's often a case of finding out what your food triggers are. It's sometimes called Postprandial Hypoglycaemia, or Reactive Hypoglycaemia.

I imagine the test will involve testing your blood beforehand, then giving you a specially formulated meal or drink, then testing at regular intervals to see how your blood sugar reacts. As mentioned, it will probably take a while so they know what happens as the meal is digested.
 
How did the tests go? x
 
I was just wondering the same as Phoebe, did the test give you any answers?

Reactive hypoglycaemia is something most of us are probably not too knowledgeable about to be honest because I believe it's quite rare. I was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycaemia in my 20's, I wasn't diabetic then, in fact it was related to another condition called Elhers Danlos (genetic) which causes in some of us autonomic dysfunction where various automatic processes in the body go a bit wonky (blood pressure, irregular heartbeats, random blood sugar stuff). I had the test you're talking about along with others, mine showed I didn't overproduce insulin, I just produced insulin very very quickly, so basically my blood glucose would dip because the insulin was there before the food had fully digested, then the ship would right itself when the food was finished digesting, that's one perk of type 1, at least I don't have to deal with that joy, pancreas can try and mess with me but she's got no juice😉 . It can occur in people prior to a diagnosis of type 2 I believe, but that tends to be because the body is initially slow to react to an increase in blood sugar, then panics and over produces insulin when the blood sugar rises above a certain point. So in the test they're looking at how your blood sugar behaves, non diabetic people have surprisingly steady blood sugar because the body reacts appropriately to an increase in blood sugar. So in a non diabetic person they'd eat and digest the food this might shove the blood glucose level up to say 7mmol/l, the pancreas will already have rallied the troops to send insulin to deal with that, then if it continues to rise it will send out reinforcements. In reactive hypoglycaemia it's thought to be more like this, the increase to 7mmol/l is ignored, the pancreas forgot to rally the troops, the blood sugar then increases more, this triggers the red flashing button in pancreas HQ because increasing blood sugar is a red alert type issue. Pancreas gets a bit flustered and interprets this as an emergency situation so she sends out the troops in force, they shower the blood stream with insulin on the understanding that this is a sustained attack and the blood sugar will keep rising. It doesn't keep rising though and you find yourself with too much insulin which gives you a hypo.

There are very many theories about post prandial hypoglycaemia though, and my knowledge is based on the explanations I was given 20 years ago so might be out of date. Let us know how you went on with the tests 🙂
 
Brilliant troops analogy @KookyCat . I've learnt something new (and interesting) today and it's not even 8am :D
 
I was just wondering the same as Phoebe, did the test give you any answers?

Reactive hypoglycaemia is something most of us are probably not too knowledgeable about to be honest because I believe it's quite rare. I was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycaemia in my 20's, I wasn't diabetic then, in fact it was related to another condition called Elhers Danlos (genetic) which causes in some of us autonomic dysfunction where various automatic processes in the body go a bit wonky (blood pressure, irregular heartbeats, random blood sugar stuff). I had the test you're talking about along with others, mine showed I didn't overproduce insulin, I just produced insulin very very quickly, so basically my blood glucose would dip because the insulin was there before the food had fully digested, then the ship would right itself when the food was finished digesting, that's one perk of type 1, at least I don't have to deal with that joy, pancreas can try and mess with me but she's got no juice😉 . It can occur in people prior to a diagnosis of type 2 I believe, but that tends to be because the body is initially slow to react to an increase in blood sugar, then panics and over produces insulin when the blood sugar rises above a certain point. So in the test they're looking at how your blood sugar behaves, non diabetic people have surprisingly steady blood sugar because the body reacts appropriately to an increase in blood sugar. So in a non diabetic person they'd eat and digest the food this might shove the blood glucose level up to say 7mmol/l, the pancreas will already have rallied the troops to send insulin to deal with that, then if it continues to rise it will send out reinforcements. In reactive hypoglycaemia it's thought to be more like this, the increase to 7mmol/l is ignored, the pancreas forgot to rally the troops, the blood sugar then increases more, this triggers the red flashing button in pancreas HQ because increasing blood sugar is a red alert type issue. Pancreas gets a bit flustered and interprets this as an emergency situation so she sends out the troops in force, they shower the blood stream with insulin on the understanding that this is a sustained attack and the blood sugar will keep rising. It doesn't keep rising though and you find yourself with too much insulin which gives you a hypo.

There are very many theories about post prandial hypoglycaemia though, and my knowledge is based on the explanations I was given 20 years ago so might be out of date. Let us know how you went on with the tests 🙂
 
Thank you so much for your post, I must admit it did make me laugh What a brilliant way to explain something in such a funny way. I am still waiting at the mo to hear from the hospital. I will keep you posted. Thanks
 
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