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New Here! Partner to Type 2 Sufferer And Really Need Help!

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Beth33

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Hi there

I’m Beth. I’m 33 years old and have been in a year long relationship with my partner who is 45 years old and suffers from type 2 diabetes. My partner had an accident 2 years ago which severely damaged his lower spine. He is able to walk but only short distances but is in an incredible amount of pain, since this his health has spiralled out of control with a diagnosed heart murmur and with the limited mobility the weight piled on and diabetes ensued. Not being able to work or go out that often depression set in and he had some counselling but it seems to be ongoing due to his circumstances. I came into his life after meeting over some cottage pie dishes I was selling. I was aware of his health problems and from the start I was with him every step of the way, going to his appointments so I could educate myself and hear what the consultants were saying. He smoked when I first met him and got him to give up which is very positive for his health. We went to weight management clinic about making better food choices and educating himself more about his diabetes condition and things were looking positive and he lost over a stone in weight and I was so proud of him. Then things started to slide and unhealthy habits crept back in. I know we are all human but I have been trying my hardest to get him back on track but to not avail and if I mention it I get called a nag. His mood swings have been awful and he’s got so angry and said so many nasty things to me over the last few months. Lockdown had taken its toll on our relationship and with my own personal dramas it has been very tough on me. My partner also lost 3 close friends too. I just don’t know where to turn. He is angry at everything and snaps at even this most smallest of things like dropping something on the floor And i get it in the neck and I’m biting back and myself am turning into an angry and upset person. I can’t get him to stop eating bad things and if I mention it he flips. We haven’t had sex at all since I met him as diabetes has affected ability to get an erection. We saw a specialist and provided us with an internal cream to try but as of yet I can’t get him to use it and he just says it won’t work. The next option is injection and he flat out refuses but I said there are 2 in this relationship and sex is important for fun and closeness. I get told that that’s all I’m interested in and I made feel like a fool going to see a specialist about it. I also really want a a baby so this is another issue. He says he does too and feels like a letdown. I try to talk to him but it ends up in arguments and I’m crying as he says I don’t understand. Part of it I probably won’t but honestly we need to do something because I am feeling so unhappy and unsure where to turn. I love him but I feel like this is going to break us if we don’t get help and address this. When I mention about getting help he says he’s been there and done that and that no one can help. He has had counselling and spoken to doctors and he’s also still waiting to be medically assessed to get health benefit. He had an appointment last year scheduled and half hour before they cancanclled it after waiting 18months and as of yet nothing rescheduled so he is not getting the help he is entitled too. This is very frustrating and has caused a strain too. Am very disappointed in the whole system! any advice on what to do because I am at my wits end! Thankyou for taking the time to read.
 
I can only really help with the diet - do you eat low carb foods?
High blood glucose levels can affect mental attitude quite a lot.
 
His mood swings have been awful and he’s got so angry and said so many nasty things to me over the last few months. Lockdown had taken its toll on our relationship and with my own personal dramas it has been very tough on me. My partner also lost 3 close friends too. I just don’t know where to turn. He is angry at everything and snaps at even this most smallest of things like dropping something on the floor And i get it in the neck and I’m biting back and myself am turning into an angry and upset person.

Hi @Beth33 It sounds like you’re in a really difficult situation. That made me sad to read what you’ve said above. Relationships shouldn’t be like that. I know you didn’t ask for relationship advice (at least, I think you didn’t?) but I found talking to someone neutral like a counsellor helped a lot. You can do it alone or with your partner. X

The bottom line is that you can’t help someone if they refuse to be helped, but your partner is clearly very down so needs support, but not at the expense of your own well-being. Is there anyone else your partner would listen to? Any support from his GP surgery?

When someone’sdown and feeling desperate, things become a bit of a spiral and it’s very hard to get out of.
 
My heart goes out to you Beth! A love story set in such a difficult and sad situation.

I wonder if your partner read your post here, it might help him to see how much you love and care about him but also how his behaviour is affecting you and your relationship with him.... I have to say your words have actually inspired me to take stock of my own relationship and want to strive to improve it as it definitely needs more effort on my part so thanks for that.... but this is about you...

High Blood Glucose levels make people more emotional/aggressive/defensive so it is likely that his high BG is preventing him from being more reasonable and rational, so working on lowering his BG might be the priority.... not easy I know.
I'm guessing that you may do most of the shopping and cooking and perhaps if this is the case, it might work in your favour by adopting a low carb way of eating for both of you..... For instance, perhaps those cottage pies that you bonded over could be topped with mashed cauliflower and cheese instead of potato to make them low carb.... I know that is just one meal and perhaps it sounds a bit simplistic but if you can slowly introduce more BG friendly meals into his diet without him really noticing his BG will drop and he will perhaps be more amenable to making an effort in other matters. Another example would be a cooked breakfast but go easy on the bread/toast/beans/hash browns... Maybe just half a slice of toast or fried bread. Not many men will get upset at being presented with a plate of bacon and eggs and mushrooms and a tomato for breakfast.
Don't buy biscuits and cake but maybe buy some Nature Valley Protein bars or Aldi Nut Bars as snacks which are lower carb than most other biscuit bars.
We have some inspirational bakers here who have experimented with low carb cake recipes which their non diabetic husbands enjoy just as much as the real thing, so perhaps that is something you could try. I have made low carb trifle before and my partner can't tell the difference and a great treat for me.
There are lots of low carb recipes and suggestions.on the forum, so maybe a slightly devious approach to changing his diet is a practical way forward.

I so wish I could wave a magic wand for you, but maybe some of our collective experience and knowledge will help you to improve things.
 
Hi @Beth33, I wish I had some sound advice for you but it does sound as if things are really difficult at the moment. If, as @rebrascora suggests it may be the high BG which is causing your partner to be unreasonable, hopefully improvements made to his diet will make a difference. However, as you point out, there are 2 of you in this relationship and you also deserve to be happy. I agree with @Inka that counselling either together, or on your own, could help you evaluate the relationship and your own needs and happiness.

Wishing you all the best
 
I'm sorry you're going through this.
I'm a 43 year old, my wife has been amazing.
I had an accident at work and was out of work for quite a while and with we weight gain diabetes must have turned up.
Now I know I was an unbearable monster to my wife and said some horrible things. My blood sugar levels were obviously through the roof and the result was almost a mania. I was so angry at everything.
Having said that there's no excuse for his behaviour.
Stay strong , stay calm and keep plugging away.
Explain to him when he's not being nasty that he can be mean. He needs to understand you're in his side.
All the best
 
I can only really help with the diet - do you eat low carb foods?
High blood glucose levels can affect mental attitude quite a lot.
Hi
no we don’t really eat low carb foods. Do you have any recommendations?
 
His mood swings have been awful and he’s got so angry and said so many nasty things to me over the last few months. Lockdown had taken its toll on our relationship and with my own personal dramas it has been very tough on me. My partner also lost 3 close friends too. I just don’t know where to turn. He is angry at everything and snaps at even this most smallest of things like dropping something on the floor And i get it in the neck and I’m biting back and myself am turning into an angry and upset person.

Hi @Beth33 It sounds like you’re in a really difficult situation. That made me sad to read what you’ve said above. Relationships shouldn’t be like that. I know you didn’t ask for relationship advice (at least, I think you didn’t?) but I found talking to someone neutral like a counsellor helped a lot. You can do it alone or with your partner. X

The bottom line is that you can’t help someone if they refuse to be helped, but your partner is clearly very down so needs support, but not at the expense of your own well-being. Is there anyone else your partner would listen to? Any support from his GP surgery?

When someone’sdown and feeling desperate, things become a bit of a spiral and it’s very hard to get out of.
His doctor he does really open up to but she went on maternity leave and then COVID kicked off and of course they aren’t allowing anyone into his surgery at the moment. He had some let’s talk phone conversations but he says they don’t help and I wasn’t part of them so they were purely for him. I have suggested an independent counsellor but doesn’t seem to get very far. I fear he his so far down the rabbit hole I am scrambling to pull him out. We have a break away booked as we both fish, we he introduced me to fishing, so I hope some time away from home will help his general well-being.
 
My heart goes out to you Beth! A love story set in such a difficult and sad situation.

I wonder if your partner read your post here, it might help him to see how much you love and care about him but also how his behaviour is affecting you and your relationship with him.... I have to say your words have actually inspired me to take stock of my own relationship and want to strive to improve it as it definitely needs more effort on my part so thanks for that.... but this is about you...

High Blood Glucose levels make people more emotional/aggressive/defensive so it is likely that his high BG is preventing him from being more reasonable and rational, so working on lowering his BG might be the priority.... not easy I know.
I'm guessing that you may do most of the shopping and cooking and perhaps if this is the case, it might work in your favour by adopting a low carb way of eating for both of you..... For instance, perhaps those cottage pies that you bonded over could be topped with mashed cauliflower and cheese instead of potato to make them low carb.... I know that is just one meal and perhaps it sounds a bit simplistic but if you can slowly introduce more BG friendly meals into his diet without him really noticing his BG will drop and he will perhaps be more amenable to making an effort in other matters. Another example would be a cooked breakfast but go easy on the bread/toast/beans/hash browns... Maybe just half a slice of toast or fried bread. Not many men will get upset at being presented with a plate of bacon and eggs and mushrooms and a tomato for breakfast.
Don't buy biscuits and cake but maybe buy some Nature Valley Protein bars or Aldi Nut Bars as snacks which are lower carb than most other biscuit bars.
We have some inspirational bakers here who have experimented with low carb cake recipes which their non diabetic husbands enjoy just as much as the real thing, so perhaps that is something you could try. I have made low carb trifle before and my partner can't tell the difference and a great treat for me.
There are lots of low carb recipes and suggestions.on the forum, so maybe a slightly devious approach to changing his diet is a practical way forward.

I so wish I could wave a magic wand for you, but maybe some of our collective experience and knowledge will help you to improve things.
Thankyou for your reply. I do a lot of shopping but actually he is a better cook than me! Myself included need to eat better but he has such a weakness for bread and butter and potatoes so really need to look at that. I think because so many of his doctors and specialists have said eat this and eat that he finds it overwhelming and like he can’t eat anything. He also keeps sneaking sweets etc and I tell him off for this but I don’t think this helping at all. My dad has diabetes too but type 1 and how he is with is and at times just wants to give up because he’s had enough upsets me and my family so I just want my partner to make an effort for me and his two boys. He has his life ahead of him and not time to throw in the towel
 
Hi @Beth33, I wish I had some sound advice for you but it does sound as if things are really difficult at the moment. If, as @rebrascora suggests it may be the high BG which is causing your partner to be unreasonable, hopefully improvements made to his diet will make a difference. However, as you point out, there are 2 of you in this relationship and you also deserve to be happy. I agree with @Inka that counselling either together, or on your own, could help you evaluate the relationship and your own needs and happiness.

Wishing you all the best
Thankyou for your reply. I have had counselling for other thighs going on in my life and this might be something to readdress. Together might not be the best idea as I don’t want us to end up resenting each other but then maybe we should be looking at this. I feel so down and I am just on autopilot at this moment in time. We have a break away booked so I hope this will help gain a new perspective and bring us closer together
 
I'm sorry you're going through this.
I'm a 43 year old, my wife has been amazing.
I had an accident at work and was out of work for quite a while and with we weight gain diabetes must have turned up.
Now I know I was an unbearable monster to my wife and said some horrible things. My blood sugar levels were obviously through the roof and the result was almost a mania. I was so angry at everything.
Having said that there's no excuse for his behaviour.
Stay strong , stay calm and keep plugging away.
Explain to him when he's not being nasty that he can be mean. He needs to understand you're in his side.
All the best
I have told him how he makes me feel and he regrets it so much and it upsets him deeply and hates seeing me cry but it just keeps happening over and over again and it hurts so much at times.
 
I hope your trip away helps you find some peace and togetherness and perhaps that will help with moving forward with his diabetes. Van you encourage him to do some walking. Sitting still fishing is probably the least beneficial pastime.

Diet really is important with diabetes and with Type 2 in particular, reducing the carbs you eat can be a more powerful approach than most medication in managing it. Many of us find that increasing our fat intake and following a low carb high fat (LCHF) way of eating is enjoyable and beneficial both for our diabetes and mental health. Unfortunately most health care professionals still insist that fat is unhealthy and causes cardiovascular disease and high cholesterol but if you eat less carbs then you need to get your energy from another source and fat is a natural part of our diet. It takes a bit of getting your head around but many people here on the forum find that cutting the carbs right down and eating more fat works for them and is not difficult to follow long term because fat makes you feel full whereas carbs make you hungry so you want to eat too much. The problem with NHS dietary advice is that it is either not effective in lowering BG levels because they recommend wholegrains and fruit which many Type 2s systems cannot tolerate and they advise against fat which is the saving grace when cutting down on carbs in making it a sustainable way of eating.

I wish you lots of luck and if you can persuade him to come here on the forum and get advice from other people living with it and successfully managing it, then that would hopefully help to inspire him. Burying his head in the sand is risking him leaving it until it is too late to tackle it..... but I am sure you already know the risks.
 
If your husband is eating lots of sugar and starch then perhaps having a blood glucose meter and taking readings after meals will show him that it is not a good idea.
Not eating high carb foods can take a bit of planning - making mashed swede rather than potato does take a bit longer, I find, assembling my salad takes longer than making a sandwich for my husband, but for me it is the difference between 'bad diabetes' and normal levels.
I would advise him coming onto the forum - it isn't down to you to sort him out - though of course you can assist and encourage.
 
Hello @Beth33
Welcome to our forum, and it is good that you have shared your situation with us.
It sounds as if you are giving your partner a lot of support, but take care to look after yourself as well, and give yourself time to de-stress and look after your own health.
Have you a friend or another family member that can help to give you some support?

If you would like to know more about Diabetes control, then you might find the 'Learning Zone' tab at the top of this page useful.

Below is my own quick guide to low-carb eating, but we are all different and it takes time to work out individual response to food, and how to keep blood sugar levels down.

As well as cutting out all sugary things I seriously reduce all starchy carbs - bread, pasta,rice, potatoes etc. Some people can eat some of these in moderation..
I eat lots of veg, which helps me feel full - but mainly the less starchy ones that grow above the ground.
Proteins are fine and help me feel full - but I avoid processed food.
Fruit also needs to be limited as it can be high in carb, I limit to one portion a day, usually berries.
I include lots of good fats - oily fish, olive oil, avocado, nuts and a little cheese.
 
Welcome to the forum @Beth33 . I am sorry to read how difficult things are for both you and your partner at present.

As others have said high glucose levels can have a big impact on mood which may explain the changes that you have seen in your partner, although I understand that he is managing other health issues. I would suggest getting a test kit as the figures may work well as tool to start to show improvements if you both adopted a lower carb diet. To do this there are the more obvious things such as biscuits and cakes but also switching to lower carb veg and avoiding pre-prepared meals.
We also decided to reduce our portion sizes, and used smaller plates which helped (I know that sounds ridiculous but it helped as the meals didn’t look so small)

Whatever you do it is important to look after yourself too. As you have said that counselling has helped before I would suggest that be reinstated for you alone or together. Do you get in with your GP? Can you talk to them too?

@Toucan has already suggested looking at The learning Zone. There is a tab at the top which will take you there. This will help you and hopefully your partner to understand what is happening with the Diabetes.

Keep in touch and take care.
 
Hi there

I’m Beth. I’m 33 years old and have been in a year long relationship with my partner who is 45 years old and suffers from type 2 diabetes. My partner had an accident 2 years ago which severely damaged his lower spine. He is able to walk but only short distances but is in an incredible amount of pain, since this his health has spiralled out of control with a diagnosed heart murmur and with the limited mobility the weight piled on and diabetes ensued. Not being able to work or go out that often depression set in and he had some counselling but it seems to be ongoing due to his circumstances. I came into his life after meeting over some cottage pie dishes I was selling. I was aware of his health problems and from the start I was with him every step of the way, going to his appointments so I could educate myself and hear what the consultants were saying. He smoked when I first met him and got him to give up which is very positive for his health. We went to weight management clinic about making better food choices and educating himself more about his diabetes condition and things were looking positive and he lost over a stone in weight and I was so proud of him. Then things started to slide and unhealthy habits crept back in. I know we are all human but I have been trying my hardest to get him back on track but to not avail and if I mention it I get called a nag. His mood swings have been awful and he’s got so angry and said so many nasty things to me over the last few months. Lockdown had taken its toll on our relationship and with my own personal dramas it has been very tough on me. My partner also lost 3 close friends too. I just don’t know where to turn. He is angry at everything and snaps at even this most smallest of things like dropping something on the floor And i get it in the neck and I’m biting back and myself am turning into an angry and upset person. I can’t get him to stop eating bad things and if I mention it he flips. We haven’t had sex at all since I met him as diabetes has affected ability to get an erection. We saw a specialist and provided us with an internal cream to try but as of yet I can’t get him to use it and he just says it won’t work. The next option is injection and he flat out refuses but I said there are 2 in this relationship and sex is important for fun and closeness. I get told that that’s all I’m interested in and I made feel like a fool going to see a specialist about it. I also really want a a baby so this is another issue. He says he does too and feels like a letdown. I try to talk to him but it ends up in arguments and I’m crying as he says I don’t understand. Part of it I probably won’t but honestly we need to do something because I am feeling so unhappy and unsure where to turn. I love him but I feel like this is going to break us if we don’t get help and address this. When I mention about getting help he says he’s been there and done that and that no one can help. He has had counselling and spoken to doctors and he’s also still waiting to be medically assessed to get health benefit. He had an appointment last year scheduled and half hour before they cancanclled it after waiting 18months and as of yet nothing rescheduled so he is not getting the help he is entitled too. This is very frustrating and has caused a strain too. Am very disappointed in the whole system! any advice on what to do because I am at my wits end! Thankyou for taking the time to read.

Hi Beth

LEAVE HIM!!

He doesn't love, respect or appreciate you and certainly doesn't deserve you. LEAVE HIM! Your relationship is only one year old and he has already started abusing you, venting his frustrations on you a few months into the relationship. He has anger management problems, not you. LEAVE HIM! You're not even married! You're still young only in your early thirties, you can find someone better than him, who deserves someone as good/kind as you, with whom you can marry, start a family and be truly HAPPY. If he can be like this to you now, imagine what he'll be like next year or a few years from now?
SAVE YOURSELF. LEAVE HIM NOW!!

Take a breath. Pause. How did reading that make you feel? Is the very idea of leaving him too abhorrent, too shocking? Does it seem like you could never let him down like that?

Or did you feel a sense of relief? Were you given the permission you needed to do the thing you want to do and felt unable to decide upon by yourself?

I discern that you are a very loving, caring and supportive person. You want to support your partner but he is abusive and a monster to you, you defend yourself when you can but don't like the person you are turning into.

Is it time to start loving yourself and putting yourself first? Or is it time to pour more of yourself into the relationship, even empty yourself selflessly to serve him?

You've gotten him to stop smoking. Great! What about limiting alcohol next? Or reducing carbs? You bonded over cottage pies, so bond over delicious low- carb, no-carb meals.

Are you overweight? If so perhaps start your food journey together with him on a quest to lose weight by making healthier diabetes friendly food choices, by adding more walks even on the spot or chair exercises into your day, by getting off the couch, turning off the TV and standing. Even housework and vacuuming counts as physical exercise. Use your fishing holiday to take some walks. You have been sent a lot of advice on BG friendly foods and you can find much more on this wonderful forum about food, diet, exercise and health. Have a good look around.

I don't know you so I can't tell you what to do in, with or about your relationship. That's for you to decide. It's your life.

But what I do know is everyone deserves to be happy, loved and in a healthy situation. We each need to love ourselves before we can love anyone else. "Love your neighbour as you love yourself" as the saying goes.

Best always, Mac2020
 
I have told him how he makes me feel and he regrets it so much and it upsets him deeply and hates seeing me cry but it just keeps happening over and over again and it hurts so much at times.

But is he willing to try to change his behaviour? That’s the big question. It doesn’t “just keep happening” - he does it to you, and he does it to you repeatedly knowing how it makes you feel.

Yes, high blood sugar makes you feel irritable and horrible, but I don’t think it’s an excuse for behaviour like this. If it’s the pain or his psychological upset, then he needs more support with those things.

Personally I’d take a step back after your break unless you see a massive change. @MAC2020 writes wise words above.
 
All I can say is that you can’t change someone. What is it that you get out of this relationship that has a positive impact on your life?
 
Hi
Dear Beth,I have been thinking about your posts for the past couple of days. It is wonderful that you have given your partner so much support and understanding. You are clearly a young woman with deep reserves of empathy, kindness and generosity of spirit. Can I gently suggest you use some of these admirable qualities for yourself? You have a right to be valued, to not to be made to feel a fool, none of this is unreasonable. Yes, high blood sugar can make someone irritable, that happens and is a consequence of the disease. But to not do anything about this is a choice - his choice. Ultimately, only your partner can take control of his T2, and can take steps to improve his health. While you can support him, you cannot change his behaviour, only he can do this. While GP support may be lacking, there are other avenues to explore, whether with a DSN, on here, or elsewhere. Please seek support for yourself and mind your own mental and physical health. Sending you my very best wishes Alannah.

Hi
Thankyou for reply. I honestly just don’t know what to do anymore. Half the time im thinking is it me? I am more moody and snappy and irritable myself and I must be making him more on edge. I’m just exhausted and running on autopilot. I have no energy for anything. I don’t know where to turn
 
All I can say is that you can’t change someone. What is it that you get out of this relationship that has a positive impact on your life?
I adore his kids. Always wanting to be a mum and not had any myself it’s the closest I get and I love them to bits. When we are fishing life is good and we never argue and we have fun and I see the man I fell in love with. Most of the time I am running around like a headless chicken and doing everything and it’s taking its toll. My family are worried about me too. Most times I find myself crying in the bath to release my emotions. I feel awful for posting about our personal life and how I’m feeling ☹️
 
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