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My symptoms hit suddenly. I had been out for a meal with my sister and some friends and as I was leaving the pub I felt thirsty. I decided to get a glass of water when I got home but by then the first glass didn't even take the edge off the thirst. I downed a second glass and was still thirsty. I assumed the steak and ale pie I ate must have been salty even though it didn't seem so. All night I drank water due to a raging thirst and consequently needed the loo. By the next morning when it continued I realised something was amiss and started cutting back on my sugar intake suspecting diabetes but being naïve as most people are, I was still eating plenty of starchy carbs. I let it go for 2 weeks getting up 4-6 times a night to wee and drink water before I eventually went and got a blood test. My eyesight for reading was very variable and my distance was also a bit odd and I would get sparkles or flashes occasionally. Other than that I didn't feel that bad. Heart would pound pretty badly sometimes but I get anxiety attacks so didn't necessarily think to link it to what I had eaten. I was also washed out a lot of the time.
Even after diagnosis of diabetes I was initially assumed type 2 but after 6 weeks of gradually stricter and stricter diet steadily reducing carbs eventually down to under 50g a day and eating low fat, low salt and no alcohol until I felt like I was eating cardboard and the weight dropping off at a rate of 4lbs a week (also a symptom of the Type 1 diabetes although the diet accelerated it) and oral Type 2 meds, my HbA1c had gone up and I was started on insulin.
With a reading of 48 I would imagine you will need very little, if any insulin, as your body must still be producing some and the less carbs you eat, the less strain is put on your struggling pancreas, so it might manage to trickle out a reduced amount of insulin for some time to come without needing extraneous insulin.
Most health care professionals are not aware that low carb eating is sustainable and they are horrified by the prospect of people eating more fat.... after all, they have been advising us to eat low fat for all of their careers and they know that diabetes puts you at increased risk of heart disease so from their perspective, eating less fat is even more important for diabetics...... because they have accepted the 50+ year old (now strongly believed to be flawed) research which indicated that dietary fat causes cardiovascular disease and the constant government advice to eat low fat as a result of that. There are some interesting presentations online by eminent medical professionals who have now reviewed the data on that initial research and many subsequent studies, many of which were cherry picked or biased to corroborate the low fat policy and believe the low fat advice may partly be the reason why we are now having such a diabetes epidemic.... because food tastes naff without fat, so the food industry adds sugar to improve the taste in it's absence. This is oversimplifying the situation but it is quite fascinating when you start to look into it.

Anyway, as a result of comments on this forum mostly by @Drummer about increasing fat intake and doing that research myself to clarify things in my own mind, I was convinced and I am very happy with my low carb higher fat eating regime now and I don't feel deprived because I have plenty of lovely treats like cheese and olives available which are low carb even when people around me are eating chocolates and offering me them (I was a chocoholic) and there is no doubt that eating more fat keeps you fuller for longer.
I still need to inject insulin, both basal (long acting) insulin to cover the glucose produced by my liver and small amounts of quick acting bolus insulin to cover any carbs that I do eat, but by keeping those carbs to a minimum I can reduce the amount needed.

Apologies for not replying earlier - I was touched that you would go into such detail in answer to my question. It's been a hectic weekend, not been online much but I just wanted to say I'll be back on here tomorrow. In the meantime, very many thanks for your openness, it's proving very helpful for me. 🙂
 
No worries. It is a very complex condition and we all know how overwhelming it is and time out is needed every now and then to allow some of the info to be digested before you are ready to learn more.
The reason I was so comprehensive in my response is that advising people to eat more fat is very controversial, especially if they are diabetic and I really wanted to give a bit of background on that as I know how I felt when it was first suggested.... it goes against everything we have been told by healthcare professionals and government advisors for pretty much all our lives and it takes a big leap of faith to contravene that.

My Dad ate fatty food (lamb chops, fatty meat/bacon, fried breakfast, butter inches thick on his bread etc) all his life and when he died (of asthma) aged 84 the paramedics made a comment about how strong his heart was, even when it wasn't getting oxygen, it just tried to keep going, so I had a bit of family history which sort of corroborated this new theory that dietary fat and cardiovascular disease may not be connected.
Anyway, take your time and don't feel you need to rush back here and respond. We are here when you are ready..... as many experienced members here on the forum say, learning to manage diabetes is a marathon not a sprint.
 
No worries. It is a very complex condition and we all know how overwhelming it is and time out is needed every now and then to allow some of the info to be digested before you are ready to learn more.
The reason I was so comprehensive in my response is that advising people to eat more fat is very controversial, especially if they are diabetic and I really wanted to give a bit of background on that as I know how I felt when it was first suggested.... it goes against everything we have been told by healthcare professionals and government advisors for pretty much all our lives and it takes a big leap of faith to contravene that.

My Dad ate fatty food (lamb chops, fatty meat/bacon, fried breakfast, butter inches thick on his bread etc) all his life and when he died (of asthma) aged 84 the paramedics made a comment about how strong his heart was, even when it wasn't getting oxygen, it just tried to keep going, so I had a bit of family history which sort of corroborated this new theory that dietary fat and cardiovascular disease may not be connected.
Anyway, take your time and don't feel you need to rush back here and respond. We are here when you are ready..... as many experienced members here on the forum say, learning to manage diabetes is a marathon not a sprint.

G'Afternoon!
I have to admit Im daunted by this marathon - Im used to pacing myself in respect of copd, both physically and with research. Im now one of the people on the British Lung Foundation forum who gives advice to newbies (though Im less on that forum now). I never thought I would have to take in a load of management stuff again but if it turns out to be Type 1 this is far harder than anything Ive dealt with so far and big respect to all of you who are living with it.
I am aware of the fat issue - it's been around in alternative health newsletters I get from the U.S. for some time. I dont stint on olive oil and eat a little butter. Meat is a no-no due to the haemochromatosis depositing iron in the pancreas but I eat a load of fish. Your Dad did brilliantly, a good example of the theory that eating fat isnt the cause of CVD. But my haemochromatosis experience makes me aware of how different we all are - the copd too as I was a light smoker and gave up 15 years before I was diagnosed.
Can I ask - I think Im gathering that the amount of carbs eaten at any point of the day is as important, or more even, than the total eaten over the whole day. Is that right? Im going to get the BG monitor you mention and start noting my levels throughout the day.
 
G'Afternoon!
I have to admit Im daunted by this marathon - Im used to pacing myself in respect of copd, both physically and with research. Im now one of the people on the British Lung Foundation forum who gives advice to newbies rather than needing it (though Im less on that forum now). I never thought I would have to take in a further load of management stuff again but if it turns out to be Type 1 this is far harder than anything Ive dealt with so far and big respect to all of you who are living with it.
I am aware of the fat issue - it's been around in alternative health newsletters I get from the U.S. for some time. I dont stint on olive oil and eat a little butter. Meat is a no-no due to the haemochromatosis depositing iron in the pancreas but I eat a load of fish. Your Dad did brilliantly, a good example of the theory that eating fat isnt the cause of CVD. But my haemochromatosis experience makes me aware of how different we all are - the copd too as I was a light smoker and gave up 15 years before I was diagnosed.
Can I ask - I think Im gathering that the amount of carbs eaten at any point of the day is as important, or more even, than the total eaten over the whole day. Is that right? Im going to get the BG monitor you mention and start noting my levels throughout the day.

I just phoned the helpline and found out various useful stuff including further blood tests, and that what my condition is likely to be is classed as Type 3c. Another layer of information Im digesting now along with a late lunch!
I did have a further thought about your saying that people having their own blood glucose monitors and doing their own tests being discouraged. It's similar with what happens in copd management. Copd and oxygen nurses often discourage us from buying a pulse oximeter (these are worn on the finger and show how much oxygen there is in the blood). They say we will get obsessed. But on more than one occasion having one has virtually saved my life as it's shown me when Im getting seriously ill with oxygen plummeting. So a useful bit of kit but similar discouragement from many nurses (not all).
Thanks as usual for your continuing support and I hope you're having a good day 🙂
 
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