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Hi I am Alison from Wallsend

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Alison Carr

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Just want to suggest an alternative method of 'reversing type 2 pre-diabetes', in case it helps anyone else in the same stage to amke the decision to go onto Metaformin, or not.

The end of last year I was warned I was pre-diabetes, but since then I haven't really done anything to help myself I guess, and about a month ago they said my blood sugar was way up and out of control and I had to start Metaformin. Well I read up about the latter and did not like what I read about it; decided to look for a better solution to actually reverse the diabetes Type 2.

So I researched diets and articles on diabetes/reversal on the net and found that there is a new theory that doctors have been telling us wrong things about food/what to eat for 40 years or more.

Intrigued I read on - what we should be eating is in fact 'HIGH fat, LOW carb, and as little sugar as is possible (due to all the 'hidden' sugars in what we can buy - cereals for a start seem to all contain sugar, and why? We can add that ourselves if we want to!).

It takes some getting one's head round to change the way one eats, but I can already tell you that my urine test strip (Diastix) results are already Sooooooo much reduced! From being 20+ and brown two weeks ago - last night I was down to 0 (yes ZERO). Fair enough I have to wait a few weeks to go back to the nurse to check my blood-counts, but I am now certain they will also be way down.

Thus I am indeed managing to reverse the diabetes on this diet. It is strange to be able to eat fats (butter, olive oil, sunflower oil), full cream natural yoghurt, cream cheese, eggs, bacon, full fat cheese, etc., but one has to think it through - ie get one's head round it. Don't go out and eat a load of full-fat things if one wants to loose weight! Eating high fat, low carb, no sugar will make one's body slowly metabolise the food and thus one will not have the insulin resistance problems as the body HAS to use body fat for it's fuel. Theory sounded good, and so far it is working for me (and many others - read up on this diet/way of life change).

Yes cut down on carbs as much as possible, but not totally - try eating Burgen Linseed & Soya bread or Lidl/Aldi Low GI bread, but only for a couple of slices of toast perhaps for breakfast. Though one can eat bacon and eggs and cheese! Eggs are good and eat plenty as they fill one up so one does not binge. Then I take a Easy-yo lunch box tub of full cream natural yoghurt (any you like), mixed with mixed seeds & mixed nuts for lunch. No dried food as toooo much sugar; though fresh blueberries added are also good at lowering diabetes. Dinner eat oily fish, or actually any meat with limited potatoes, brown rice, couscous, quinoa is good too, but plenty of green vegetables (I often make a mash of sweet potatoes and normal potatoes, but have green veg too). Put a bit butter on the veg. No desserts. I find that this type of food in a day makes one feel full, and I don't go looking for sweet stuff.

There's loads of recipe books for the Keto/ Ketogenic diets on the net - just type that in or high fat, low carb diets and the books will be there (books or Kindle ebooks).

Anyway - it's working for me - but it has to become 'a way of life eating'. Once one has reversed the diabetes problem one can allow oneself a weekly treat of one's favourite food and it shouldn't make a lot of difference over all. Hope this is helpful to others on Metaformin or nearing a point where they might have to. It's working for my friends too, and they are losing weight gradually.
 
Hiya!

You are actually singing from the hymnsheet we've been using for years LOL

But not everyone gets and opportunity to have their blood tested early enough for it to be 'pre' diabetes and whilst it is usually possible to stop it getting any worse, anyone who has insulin resistance for any reason (cos there are at least several) will usually find Metformin jolly useful whether they are Type 1 or Type 2, MODY, LADA, or gestational. So - it isn't always possible to do what you've been able to.

However - well done to you for researching it yourself, putting it into practice and succeeding! - cos not everyone is either willing or able to do it. And you're right it has to be a change for life.

Although - if you ever have to take steroids or have any illness/injury for long - unfortunately you will still be susceptible so perhaps it's best to only be slightly smug! LOL
 
Welcome to the forum, Alison. What is your approach to exercise and bodyweight (if you're heavier than ideal)? Lots of good walking opportunities near you on coast, Hadrian's Wall, various parks etc, plus parkruns at Whitley Bay and Exhibition Park.
 
Hi & welcome to the forum. I have been on this diet since diagnosis & have gained full control of my diabetes. This diet is already well documented on this forum.🙂
 
Thanks everyone - as a 'newby' I've still lots to learn - and it's early days yet for me and diet etc. I am just hopeful that I can keep the sugar down by diet alone. Weight-wise I could do with losing a bit, and I exercise my 3 labs 3 times a day in the local parks - between work - pushing/lifting wheelchairs etc. So far on the diet I have re-gained the weight I had lost on my legs through the insulin-resistance, but not gained any weight; I also feel I am losing inches so here's hoping I will slowly lose weight over the coming months as I learn more on what/how to eat. (I have the Metaformin in, should I come to need it - by all accounts one loses weight on that through constant diaorrhea, and I can't have that when I am out at work with disabled people; trying to find outside toilets in a hurry would be VERY difficult!). I heed your warning Jenny - I am not smug; just relieved to find my sugar levels (via test strips only at this time) appear to have really dropped very quickly. I hope this means my blood tests too will be good and I won't need the Metaformin at this time - but yet to find that out. I will look at more of the forum articles now I have found the site and will look at the diets people have found effective. Really helpful. Thanks All. Regards from Alison
 
I should add that I am a complete newby and have NO idea at this time what MODY or LADA means! I will have to research and ask more when I see the nurse - what results should I be asking her for when I have the next blood tests please? Rgds Alison
 
And LADA is a car.😛
 
Also I had no symptoms and didnt react to metformin at all, diet and excercise alone wouldnt help my diabetes at all.
 
Well done Alison and good for you researching and discovering the reality of a diet that people on here have known works for many years (but sometimes struggle to convince the medics!).

What does concern me is you describe the monitoring of your diabeties using Diastix. Is that the only home testing method you're using? My understanding is that they don't register a problem until the BG level is up to about 10 and that's already far too high. I made the mistake of checking whether I was diabetic using some my mum had and they were always totally negative. False reassurance because my diabetes wasn't negative!
If you don't have a blood glucose meter, please consider getting one. The Hba1c gives very valuable averages but it doesn't give an accurate picture overall or capture spikes.

So pleased you're getting on top of this though.
 
Oh yeah, true, forgot to mention that - if we have a normal renal threshold, urine is also 2 hours behind our blood hence the results only say what your body was doing a couple of hours ago - not 'now'.

(I was joking about the 'smug' - I'm sure I would be if I were in your boots!)
 
Hi Alison, welcome...

Yes, a lot of us here are LCHF & thrive on this Way of Eating.... For us D's it is a lifetime change (besides, I really am enjoying what I am eating now, gone is the carb bloat)
 
I first got interested in LCHF (though I had not even heard the term then) when I was in Crete (last year) & attended a cooking demonstration. The demonstration & discussion was very interesting as they were saying that Crete had a very low incidence of Heart Disease, Diabetes and other chronic conditions but, unfortunately, that was changing owing to the influence of the western diets on the upcoming generations.

Initially I started looking at the Mediterranean Diet & as I was coming to terms with my D I found that I was reducing my carbs more & more as I was descending into the heresy.... Now I eat a Ketogenic Diet.

My Brother was DX'd as pre-diabetic 3 months before my DX (by pre-diabetic I mean not as diabetic as me!!!), as he loves his food he went the Paleo route having significant success and losing a lot of weight (believe you me, he had it to lose). Unfortunately he was not as committed & went off of it at the end of last year; now he is back exactly where he started.
 
Welcome to the forum, Alison and thanks for sharing your story, really glad it is working for you. I guess your nurse will be doing an Hba1c which gives you a picture of how you have been doing over the last 10 weeks or so. It might be worth asking if you could have your own blood testing meter to do finger prick tests as you are so motivated to change the way you eat. By following your own testing regime as mentioned on the stickies at the top of this page, you will be able to find out which foods you best tolerate. If the nurse won't fund one for you, we recommend the Codefree meter as the testing strips for it are the cheapest around (£8 for 50, rather than around £20). Do let us know how you get on at your next appointment.
I recommend taking a pad and pencil and writing everything down. Also taking any questions you have.
 
Well done Alison and good for you researching and discovering the reality of a diet that people on here have known works for many years (but sometimes struggle to convince the medics!).

What does concern me is you describe the monitoring of your diabeties using Diastix. Is that the only home testing method you're using? My understanding is that they don't register a problem until the BG level is up to about 10 and that's already far too high. I made the mistake of checking whether I was diabetic using some my mum had and they were always totally negative. False reassurance because my diabetes wasn't negative!
If you don't have a blood glucose meter, please consider getting one. The Hba1c gives very valuable averages but it doesn't give an accurate picture overall or capture spikes.

So pleased you're getting on top of this though.
Yes I have spent the last two days looking at the different types of blood glucose monitoring systems out there - considering whether to invest in one (or ask the doctor if t
Well done Alison and good for you researching and discovering the reality of a diet that people on here have known works for many years (but sometimes struggle to convince the medics!).

What does concern me is you describe the monitoring of your diabeties using Diastix. Is that the only home testing method you're using? My understanding is that they don't register a problem until the BG level is up to about 10 and that's already far too high. I made the mistake of checking whether I was diabetic using some my mum had and they were always totally negative. False reassurance because my diabetes wasn't negative!
If you don't have a blood glucose meter, please consider getting one. The Hba1c gives very valuable averages but it doesn't give an accurate picture overall or capture spikes.

So pleased you're getting on top of this though.
Hi and thanks; yes I have spent the last two days on the net looking at blood glucose meters and wondering about them - or whether the doctor would supply them (probably doubtful). I have been considering sending for the Codefree meter as I gather the test strips for these are cheaper. There are free units, but they are only available if one's doctor will prescribe the test strips (again unlikely). All I have had available is the urine strips, so I had a fair idea they are only giving me hope of an improvement; I thought I might need the monitor. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated, as it is two weeks plus until I see the nurse! Regards, Alison
 
Welcome to the forum, Alison and thanks for sharing your story, really glad it is working for you. I guess your nurse will be doing an Hba1c which gives you a picture of how you have been doing over the last 10 weeks or so. It might be worth asking if you could have your own blood testing meter to do finger prick tests as you are so motivated to change the way you eat. By following your own testing regime as mentioned on the stickies at the top of this page, you will be able to find out which foods you best tolerate. If the nurse won't fund one for you, we recommend the Codefree meter as the testing strips for it are the cheapest around (£8 for 50, rather than around £20). Do let us know how you get on at your next appointment.
I recommend taking a pad and pencil and writing everything down. Also taking any questions you have.

Thanks - the meter is the next item to get I see (don't know if the doctors will supply one?). What are the most relevant questions I need to ask, and record please? I am still trying to find the right/wrong foods so I've a lot to learn there too. I will try to find these stickies at the top of the page!? Regards, Alison
 
Hi Alison, welcome...

Yes, a lot of us here are LCHF & thrive on this Way of Eating.... For us D's it is a lifetime change (besides, I really am enjoying what I am eating now, gone is the carb bloat)

Hi Martin - useful, but not enough - where did you find out what to eat, and what are you eating now (daily type things)? Suggestions of foods to eat and not eat welcome. I haven't had time to get to all the different parts of the forum yet - I see there is a bit on recipes. Thanks Alison
 
Hi Alison, you will likely end up needing your own meter as, even if the Dr. issues one, they will not likely give you near enough strips for adequate testing in this learning phase of your disease. Testing new foods can take a few attempts; testing at 30 minute intervals for 2-3 hours!!!!
 
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