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hi just diagnosed type 2, gutted

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Karen Clarke

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Just been diagnosed with type 2, I am shocked and angry, I never eat sugar and eat healthy, why has this happened, I have been given tablets but don't know what to eat or anything now, please can someone help.
 
Hi from a fellow T2 who's soon to be 18 months in. I've had the same problems you've had (throw in some frustration) and am still sorting myself out. You've to control carbs (potates, rice etc).
 
Hi Karen, welcome to the forum.... Sorry about the DX

Firstly, it's not your fault, it's more than likely a case of genetic predisposition, that added to a culture where Carbs are force fed to us causes us to develop Insulin Resistance

Second, life is not over, you just have to start watching what carbs are in the foods you eat, reduce your intake of breads, pasta, rice, starchy vegetables & fruit (not to say you can't have them but in moderation. But 'refined' foods & ready meals are problematic for us.

Third, obtain a meter & start testing your BG, without the testing we cannot determine how foods affect us & adjust our diets accordingly
 
Thank you for your reply, what fruit should I not eat, I know nothing was only told tonight and have no clue, I only weant to the dr with a 8 week headache, he sent me for fasting blood test and now this news.
 
Thank you for your reply, what fruit should I not eat, I know nothing was only told tonight and have no clue, I only weant to the dr with a 8 week headache, he sent me for fasting blood test and now this news.
Most people find berries are best at keeping their sugar levels on an even keel. The fruit to avoid is anything tropical, mango, pineapple, etc, as they tend to have a lot of sugar. Bananas are quite starchy as well, some people can tolerate them, others can't. This is when a test meter comes in handy, you can test a couple of hours after eating, and see what effect individual foods have on your blood sugar levels, and avoid anything that makes them rise too much.
 
The problem is that this disease is not one-size-fits-all, our bodies react differently. Personally I stay away from fruit of all kind, however, many people can tolerate berries quite well, the more sugary fruits (like bananas) not so well.
The issue is not down to sugar, it's carbs of all kinds, one tool that we do have is the Glycemic Index, a WEB search will lead you to a lot of tables quoting the GI of a particular food.... You will probably frequently hear that "all carbs are not created equal", that is true so (unfortunately) you will have to learn how food affects you.

There will likely be some more replies with hyperlinks to some very good, educational reading... It's worth taking the time to sit down & read them thoroughly.

Our disease is a complex one, we are constantly learning & adapting... The diet I follow now is very different to the one I had 12 mo ago, not to say I was heading in the right direction then!!!
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. Testing will help you get a handle on what foods spike your blood sugar.
You can find the SDCodefree on Amazon. It's got the cheapest test strips so is quite economical to use.
 
please get a meter and strips, This will help a lot in finding a way of eating that works for you
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php and http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

I found it easier to just go cold turkey on the Sugars and Starches.
As I was also overweight. This gives a simple overview to how it works for me. The more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. Carbs and insulin want to store fat, They don’t give up easy and it’s biochemical



a long page and a few good video’s
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 
Hi Karen and welcome to the forum. With regards to fruit, I now have 2 - 3 portions a day, I used to have about 6 -7. Avoid tropical fruits. Any type of berry is great. I have strawberries, blueberries and raspberries now. It can be daunting at first.
 
Welcome to the forum, Karen. Sorry you have to be here. It sounds like you've been diagnosed early, before any complications from years of raised blood glucose levels.
Normal advice about healthy diet emphasises high carbohydrate / starch, but you may need to lower your intake. Only using a blood glucose meter before and 2 hours after eating can tell you how certain foods / meals affect you. You also need to consider exercise / activity and bodyweight - what is your current level of activity and weight or BMI?
 
Just been diagnosed with type 2, I am shocked and angry, I never eat sugar and eat healthy, why has this happened, I have been given tablets but don't know what to eat or anything now, please can someone help.
Hi Karen, welcome to the forum 🙂 Sorry to hear about your diagnosis :( There's an undue emphasis on lack of exercise and poor diet being a cause of Type 2 diabetes, and other factors such as genetic susceptibility are often overlooked, so please don't blame yourself - many thousands of people find themselves in exactly your situation.

As has been suggested, it is not just sugar (which is just one form of carbohydrate) but all carbohydrates that you need to be mindful of - so bread, pasta, rice, potatoes etc. are all things that will have an impact on your blood glucose levels. The trick is learning how your body tolerates these various things and understanding how diabetes affects you. Have a read of Jennifer's Advice and Maggie Davey's letter for starters - these will help you understand things better, and the more you understand, the easier it will be to manage your diabetes. I'd also recommend getting a copy of Type 2 Diabetes: The First Year by Gretchen Becker, which many of our members have found really useful, positive and encouraging 🙂 Diabetes is a serious condition, but it can be managed well and it doesn't have to stop you living a full, happy and healthy life 🙂

Using a blood glucose meter will help you to understand how well (or otherwise!) you tolerate elements of your diet. Have a read of Test,Review, Adjust by Alan S to understand how this can be done. If your doctor won't prescribe test strips for you (unfortunately, most don't :() then it is worth buying your own whilst you get to grips with things. The cheapest option we have come across is the SD Codefree Meter which has test strips at around £8 for 50 (strips are commonly £25-£30 in high street pharmacies). Start a food diary and record the amount, in grams, of carbohydrate in everything you eat and drink for a couple of weeks. This is a bit tedious, but hugely useful in allowing you to look for areas where you might reduce or replace things so that your diet becomes more diabetes-friendly. Doing this, and using your meter will allow you to retain maximum flexibility in your diet which will make it more sustainable (and enjoyable) for you - these are changes that need to be fundamental, not just for a week or two, but you will be surprised at how your tastes can change in a relatively short period. You've probably already got a head start as you say your diet is healthy to begin with - it's just a case of identifying things that you need to treat more cautiously (fruit, as mentioned, can be healthy, but can also contain a lot of sugar. Many foods marketed as 'healthy' are actually not so healthy when you look closely - they may be low fat, but high sugar/carb to replace the fat).

Many people find that following the principles of the GL (Glycaemic Load) diet is very helpful. This describes a method of selecting and combining foods so that they have a slow, steady impact on blood glucose levels. The GL Diet for Dummies is a very good introduction 🙂

Finally, don't forget exercise! If you can include some regular exercise in your daily routine this will really help with managing your blood glucose levels - doesn't have to be an intensive gym session or a 10 mile run, a half hour brisk walk in the park will do nicely 🙂

Please let us know if you have any questions (and you probably have lots!). No question is considered 'silly', and you have the experience of hundreds of experienced and knowledgeable people here who collectively know far more than your GP or nurse about diabetes (which, from what you have said, wouldn't be difficult! 🙄) Let us know how you get on.
 
Hi Karen, just seconding what the others have said 🙂 It can be a pain in the bum working all this stuff out, but the advantages are that you can become fitter, healthier and slimmer (if you need to lose weight) than you were before.

All the best to you from another type 2, who has found this forum a treasure trove of good advice and encouragement :D
 
Hi , I have only just been diagnosed with T2 this week, feel gutted and anxious of what's ahead of me .Trying to read forums for top tips.
 
Hi Alison, welcome to the forum.

Start your own thread then you won't get missed :D

It is blooming scary isn't it. Stick with us and you will be ok.
 
Welcome to the forum, Alison Williams. I also encourage you to start your own introductory thread.
 
The emotional impact of diabetes is often overlooked because with the lack of information that accompanies the diagnosis is a feeling of loss and life limitations. I screamed, ranted and raved at the injustice of it all (even though I knew I was complicit in causing it to some extent). But as I started to read and research and inform myself, I decided that this was do'able and I wouldn't have to give everything up. I'd just have to stop the piggie portions and belief that any food was fair game. And believe me I cooked from fresh every evening. People even commented on my healthy diet! People who never got diabetes as they complimented me with a pie in their mitt! 🙄

My advice would be to read the links Northerner has given you. Test even if the docs don't support the notion. Take this seriously and as a part of your changed reality not some external 'invader'. Life hasn't ended, its just become a little bit more complicated and requiring more thought and planning food wise. We all think we didn't eat much sugar but it's the carbs in crusty bread, those slices of pizza, packet of crisps with a drink, rice with the chilli, mashed potatoes and dumplings with the dinner etc. that converts to glucose. But the body can recover from that onslaught and eventually you'll work out how much your body can tolerate so it doesn't break out in headaches, thirst and constant piddling!

Don't despair...its do'able and you can even end up feeling massively better! Good luck! 🙂
 
The emotional impact of diabetes is often overlooked because with the lack of information that accompanies the diagnosis is a feeling of loss and life limitations. I screamed, ranted and raved at the injustice of it all (even though I knew I was complicit in causing it to some extent). But as I started to read and research and inform myself, I decided that this was do'able and I wouldn't have to give everything up. I'd just have to stop the piggie portions and belief that any food was fair game. And believe me I cooked from fresh every evening. People even commented on my healthy diet! People who never got diabetes as they complimented me with a pie in their mitt! 🙄

My advice would be to read the links Northerner has given you. Test even if the docs don't support the notion. Take this seriously and as a part of your changed reality not some external 'invader'. Life hasn't ended, its just become a little bit more complicated and requiring more thought and planning food wise. We all think we didn't eat much sugar but it's the carbs in crusty bread, those slices of pizza, packet of crisps with a drink, rice with the chilli, mashed potatoes and dumplings with the dinner etc. that converts to glucose. But the body can recover from that onslaught and eventually you'll work out how much your body can tolerate so it doesn't break out in headaches, thirst and constant piddling!

Don't despair...its do'able and you can even end up feeling massively better! Good luck! 🙂

I love this post!! Thanks Amigo!!

I'm into my 8th week since diagnosis and I'm well and truly at the angry, frustrated and lost faze. I've read so much information about diabetes that my mind is frazzled by it all. I keep telling myself that I know what I'm doing but I haven't got a clue and it's frustrating the life out of me!! I really do feel a sense of loss and I'm peeved about the life limitations that I'm going to have to make. 😡 It sounds so silly. 😳 I know that I just need to put on my Big Girl Pants and just get on with it.

Right!! I've just down loaded a copy of Type 2 Diabetes: The First Year by Gretchen Becker and I'm going to start reading it today!! 😉
 
I love this post!! Thanks Amigo!!

I'm into my 8th week since diagnosis and I'm well and truly at the angry, frustrated and lost faze. I've read so much information about diabetes that my mind is frazzled by it all. I keep telling myself that I know what I'm doing but I haven't got a clue and it's frustrating the life out of me!! I really do feel a sense of loss and I'm peeved about the life limitations that I'm going to have to make. 😡 It sounds so silly. 😳 I know that I just need to put on my Big Girl Pants and just get on with it.

Right!! I've just down loaded a copy of Type 2 Diabetes: The First Year by Gretchen Becker and I'm going to start reading it today!! 😉
Hope you find it helpful @Ginja Gee, Gretchen has a very positive approach 🙂 Stick at it - things will get better for you 🙂
 
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