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Reverse Your Diabetes - Dr David Cavan

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oldoneegg

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I was diagnosed with Type 2 back in April 2013. I'm 6'4" and at the time I was 18.5 to 19.0 stone, I'd held at this level for many years. I have always eaten good food but lots of it!
I followed the general advice from my Doctor and Nurse to eat a balanced diet with a good proportion of carbs, I'm not a drinker or smoker but cut out my daily allowance of Coke, the drink not the drug, and thought a bit more about what I ate.
With a few deviations my HbA1c levelled out around low to mid fifties. I have always resisted medication and was aware that at these levels it would be the next step.
I brought this book back in the early part of the year after my latest tests of HbA1c @ 56. It then sat on my desk for several months before I picked it up in May.
It made sense to me having never come across the carbs = sugar argument before. I therefore set about a change to my diet.
My breakfast cereal is now replaced with Greek Yoghurt and berries, the lunchtime petrol station sandwich with crisps is now a petrol station salad with meat, fish or eggs and I've reduced what I call my 'overt' carbs at other times, reduced portions or eliminated altogether from some meals. My weekend cooked breakfast remains as it always has but without the 3 or 4 slice of toast that went with it.
My weight has been steadily falling since diagnosis with a plateau after each dietary change, I am now between 15.5 & 16.0.
At the start of September I set off for my 6 month fasting bloods as I was close to been medicated last time at 56, it came back at 46. This is down to the changes I have made after reading this book!
I will no doubt plateau again on the weight and the HbA1c I'll then look to tweak the diet further.
The book really changed my approach to controlling my Diabetes and I would advise anyone to read it. Dr Cavan talks very sensibly about reducing not necessarily eliminating things from your diet and makes some simple suggestions without making you feel you have to embrace an extreme lifestyle.
 
I agree with the last sentence about not having to embrace an extreme lifestyle. I too succeeded with an eat what I like (subject to BG constraints identified by my BG meter) but with reduced healthy portions.

I also found incorporating exercise every day (in the form of a brisk walk and a bit of rowing on a home machine) really helped with the results I got.

Anyway, congrats on your results and long may they continue.
 
I am just about to purchase this book on Amazon as I am very interested in trying to possibly 'reverse' not 'cure' my diabetes. I was diagnosed in 2009 (Type 2) and am now on x1 Metformin tablet daily. Although I am making every effort to lose weight and I have quite a lot to lose, my BS levels has steadily risen over the years rather than come down even though I have lost a stone in weight. I am intrigued what this book will say, thanks for the recommendation.
 
David Cavan was my consultant and responsible for getting me my pump 😎 but then he left Bournemouth to go to Belgium - a great shame!:(
 
Ah - but he's doing something diabetically important EU wide - or maybe International? - I forget which - now Susan - much more high powered position! I can't blame him, sorry !
 
Sounds like a brilliant achievement oldoneegg, its amazing that so many people don't realise carbs are the focus not just sugar. I was aware before diagnosis but only because I did a lot of reading when my Dad was diagnosed with type 2. I changed my own diet as well at that point because I was petrified of getting type 2 (then I got late onset type 1, the irony does not escape me!). Anyway glad you're finding the book useful, oh and welcome aboard 🙂
 
Think they still ought to cover it in the O level Biology syllabus - I liked biology anyway - but it has proved to be one of the most useful subjects for more than diabetes reasons!
 
I would read the "A---" off this book if would help but being T1 it wont work :D
 
LOL Hobie - true ! But no matter how good a doctor David Cavan professes to be (and is) he'd never claim to be able to reverse us!

We (DSF) were with him immediately after the Beta testing stage of the BDEC e-learning module, and at it's revision. He already knew much of what is in his book - BUT he couldn't PROVE it. However - many of our members including some not in the UK!!! (hint hint) - were able to provide the evidence on a larger scale than he'd experienced - which was more than enough for his purpose.
 
Any one can share your views on Reverse vs Cure Diabetes?

Here is my understanding
Cure: no need to take medicine anymore and maintain normal BS level;
vs.
Reverse: reduce the amount of medication while maintaining BS level normal;

I am interested in reducing my medication, or better to off the medication.

My daily carb is rather high, like to know if LCHF can cure diabetes, or at least
reducing carb intake will reverse my diabetes.

thanks

Rider44
T2 for 2000, normal weight, 1 hour physical activity/day,
Metformin 1000mg/day, Glipizide 5mg/day
 
Just read the UK diabetes web site on reverse diabetes more carefully, see
below.

Seems to me that based on the definition, reverse diabetes includes cure of diabetes because people can come
off medication.

Also seems to me that it is more relevant to overweight people, are I right?

thanks

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Reversing Diabetes
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Type 2 diabetes medication dependency can be reversed with a change in health and lifestyle choices
Reversing diabetes is a term used to describe interventions that reduce dependency on type 2 diabetes medications, effectively reversing the progression of the illness.

With time and dedication, type 2 diabetes can be reversed and the results can be very rewarding with less tiredness and better all round health.

Loss of body weight can be particularly beneficial in helping to reverse the progression of diabetes.

In some cases, people may find they are able to come off medication, although blood sugar levels should be checked regularly as reversing progression of diabetes is not a cure.

Do not come off medication unless advised to by your healthcare team.
 
Any one can share your views on Reverse vs Cure Diabetes?

Here is my understanding
Cure: no need to take medicine anymore and maintain normal BS level;
vs.
Reverse: reduce the amount of medication while maintaining BS level normal;

I am interested in reducing my medication, or better to off the medication.

My daily carb is rather high, like to know if LCHF can cure diabetes, or at least
reducing carb intake will reverse my diabetes.

thanks

Rider44
T2 for 2000, normal weight, 1 hour physical activity/day,
Metformin 1000mg/day, Glipizide 5mg/day
Hi @rider44 , welcome to the forum 🙂

'Reversing' Type 2 diabetes is not the same as curing it. It may be possible to improve your blood sugar control through a combination of diet and activity adjustments for some people, but this does not mean they are cured, they are simply managing it successfully. They will still have diabetes, and a return to bad habits or diet will result in the return of symptoms. Nevertheless, even though it is not a cure, it is ALWAYS worth making the efforts, since you will always reduce your risks of complications and improve your health. Whether you will be able to reduce or stop your medication will depend very much on the individual, as it may be that, physically, a person is no longer capable of controlling their blood sugars without the assistance of some medication.
 
T1 your pancreas does not work. T2 it my work 20% or 80%. If you eat low carbs & exercise you will do yourself a big favour 🙂
 
I'm glad this topic came up as one nurse has told me that if I get my numbers into the 42 - 47 range I will be free of diabetes altogether and another nurse told me you will never be rid of it you will be a diabetic who is always trying to maintain those low numbers. Bit confusing . Any ideas anyone on this.
 
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