Diet diet diet

[Nayshiftin]

I don't know if you are imagining that with low carb of around 130g per day which is actually pretty generous, that you cannot have satisfying meals, have you looked for low carb veggie meals on the internet as there are lots on there with ingredients which are not too expensive.
Salads can be interesting, not just the usual lettuce, tomato and cucumber but shredded cabbage and carrot, grated beetroot, spring onion, mangetout, olives, feta cheese.
A sugar free jelly with some added berries makes a good desert with a bit of cream or Kvarg deserts.

Here is what yesterday and today. so apart from the bread and bran flakes I need to change ? I do not know what to eat tonight and I am on my own so want something quick. I do not fancy an omelet at all.

Day of week​	​	Sunday​	​	Monday​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
Bfast​	​	strawberries​	​	bran flakes​	​
​	​	Immune fruit tea​	​	raspberries with milk​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
morning snack​	​	Apricot​	​	satsumas​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
Lunch​	​	smoked mackeril​	​	cottage cheese sandwich​	​
​	​	salad​	​	yoghurt and raspberries​	​
​	​	Nectarine​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
afternoon snack​	​	apricot​	​	apricot​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
Dinner​	​	Baked beans n toast​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	so far​	​
total cals​	1183​	​	​	697​	​
total carbs​	107.5​	​	​	115.4​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​

 

[Drummer]

As it is rather hot, and I am going out tonight, I'll make a salad wit fish of some kind - but I'd be staggering if I ate what you are eating, @Nayshiftin - and my metabolism would shut down.
I don't have any sort of bread these days, but stir fries and chops or steak are something I have for breakfast - I make sugar free jellies with frozen berries to eat with cream or Greek yoghurt, to eat after dinner - I could not face cooking in the heat so have had a pack of frozen stirfry with mixed veges, into a pan of hot water from the kettle and simmered until done, a little simple salad dressing of vinegar and olive oil and a smidge of pepper and salt.
I find that eating low calorie makes my body hang onto every ounce - I have been pushed to eat less and less over the years and my nature will not give into bullying even if my mind tries to comply - but I have given up on that and defend my way of eating these days. I am over 70 years old and half a century of experiencing others try to dictate to me has got me to where I am now.

 

[Nayshiftin]

As it is rather hot, and I am going out tonight, I'll make a salad wit fish of some kind - but I'd be staggering if I ate what you are eating, @Nayshiftin - and my metabolism would shut down.
I don't have any sort of bread these days, but stir fries and chops or steak are something I have for breakfast - I make sugar free jellies with frozen berries to eat with cream or Greek yoghurt, to eat after dinner - I could not face cooking in the heat so have had a pack of frozen stirfry with mixed veges, into a pan of hot water from the kettle and simmered until done, a little simple salad dressing of vinegar and olive oil and a smidge of pepper and salt.
I find that eating low calorie makes my body hang onto every ounce - I have been pushed to eat less and less over the years and my nature will not give into bullying even if my mind tries to comply - but I have given up on that and defend my way of eating these days. I am over 70 years old and half a century of experiencing others try to dictate to me has got me to where I am now.

I don't eat steak so your stir fry would just be veg and oil for me which id find tasteless. you would be staggering? I am just trying but like tomorrow we might have stuffed butternut squash which again has a bit of wholemeal bread. I can make jelly for myself that s a good idea in this heat but will miss the ice cream.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I suggest that you forget the weightloss, the cholesterol, the exercise - the problem is the level of glucose in your blood - reducing the amount of carbs you consume should do the trick and probably help with the other problems as well, but they are really not what you need to focus on.

No.
Just no really.

 

[Leadinglights]

I don't eat steak so your stir fry would just be veg and oil for me which id find tasteless. you would be staggering? I am just trying but like tomorrow we might have stuffed butternut squash which again has a bit of wholemeal bread. I can make jelly for myself that s a good idea in this heat but will miss the ice cream.

You can add some fresh ginger and soy sauce to your stir fry veg and a desert spoon of peanut butter.
For a 'ice cream' take some frozen berries and blitz into some thick yoghurt, eat immediately.00

 

[Nayshiftin]

No.
Just no really.

I think I appreciate all opinions. Each to their own. To be honest, it's brilliant that there are so many views and so many that do try and help. I am so grateful people are replying.

 

[NotWorriedAtAll]

Here is what yesterday and today. so apart from the bread and bran flakes I need to change ? I do not know what to eat tonight and I am on my own so want something quick. I do not fancy an omelet at all.

Day of week​	​	Sunday​	​	Monday​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
Bfast​	​	strawberries​	​	bran flakes​	​
​	​	Immune fruit tea​	​	raspberries with milk​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
morning snack​	​	Apricot​	​	satsumas​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
Lunch​	​	smoked mackeril​	​	cottage cheese sandwich​	​
​	​	salad​	​	yoghurt and raspberries​	​
​	​	Nectarine​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
afternoon snack​	​	apricot​	​	apricot​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
Dinner​	​	Baked beans n toast​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​	so far​	​
total cals​	1183​	​	​	697​	​
total carbs​	107.5​	​	​	115.4​	​
​	​	​	​	​	​

Here's an idea.

Breakfast: Keto porridge made with unsweetened almond milk ( I buy Alpro Almond No Sugars Long Life - it is zero carbs https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/276761995 ) - you can use it for anything you would use dairy milk for and it is excellent.

Keto porridge is made with a teaspoonful of coconut flour and another of almond flour/ground almonds - also easily obtainable from tesco and a spoonful of erythritol mixed together and zapped in the microwave for a minute or two until it thickens. You can then stir in a teaspoon of Greek yoghurt - plain with only around 4g of carbs per 100g so a teaspoon is hardly any carbs.

This is nutritionally dense and high in fats and proteins and other minerals and is very filling.

If you buy a bag of psyllium powder from Amazon you will then be set up to make extremely low carb cakes. What you start to change in your thinking is that a cake is now on keto an actually healthy meal choice.

You can make a mug cake with one egg and a tablesppon of melted butter, a teaspoon of almond flour/ground almonds another of coconut flour and one of psyllium powder (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Psyllium-Foodies-Servings-Maintain/dp/B08BZR7YCH/) - half a teaspoon of baking powder and some erythritol to sweeten.

The psyllium is fibre and people actually take it in water as a health supplement!! The almond and coconut flour has fat and protein and the butter of course has D vitamins and healthy fats.

If you add some nutmeg and or cinnamon or a teaspoon of 100% cocoa powder - it becomes a chocolate cup cake.

you mix the powders together and beat the egg with the melted butter and then fold the dry ingredients into the wet ones and then zap in the microwave - you will have a decent size individual portion cake.

You make jam from three strawberries and some erythritol zapped in the microwave and then stir in some chia seeds and wait a few minutes - the chia seeds will thicken the jam. Chai seeds are also available from tesco. A spoonful of jam and a tablespoon of whipped double cream (or if you want to save time - extra think double cream from tesco) can be sandwiched in the cake and you have a very quick and very yummy and extremely healthy meal that is not going to cause you any trouble with your diabetes.

I don't know where you get the idea that keto is about meat.

If you are not gluten intolerant then keto yeast bread is nearly entirely protein as the major ingredient is vital wheat gluten which is almost 100% protein. The rolls I showed are basically balls of protein. You can have them with anything you like. Even just spread with butter and some marmite and they are fine as a meal. Keto bread is not like ordinary wheat bread which is just empty calories and you have to have something else with it - keto bread is packed with fibre, huge amounts of protein, vitamins and minerals - if you chose my favourite keto bread recipe it includes ground wheat fibre and that holds all the vitamin Bs and another recipe uses flax seeds and they are incredibly nutritionally beneficial especially for PCOS.

The diet recommended for curing PCOS is a keto diet with plenty of flax and other fibres and only a moderate amount of meat. Vegans and vegetarians have been making something called Seitan forever and that is a protein meat substitute made of vital wheat gluten - so that gives you an idea of how protein packed keto yeast bread recipes usually are.

You could eat lettuce sandwiches and that would be a perfectly fine meal if you make them with keto recipe bread.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I think I appreciate all opinions. Each to their own. To be honest, it's brilliant that there are so many views and so many that do try and help. I am so grateful people are replying.

I focused on everything wrong with me.
I had multiple issues, so solely carrying on as I was, but forcing BG down was going to kill me from something else anyway.
I moved my tastes from sweet to savoury, I accepted I ate my way into being unhealthy, no one made me.
So I could change, and eat differently.
I didn't want to fool myself.
I switched to more savoury.
I didn't eat red meat, I flavoured dry fried veg with herbs, spices, I replaced fruit with veg sticks, I just weaned myself off sweet stuff.
Not all worked, Avacado still tasted like slime, but I tried everything.
Like you, I don't spend a fortune on food, I'll stock up, then create meals around the freezer contents.
Although today, I'm doing an onion soup, that worked, but I also have a tuna and noodle stir fry marinating. It appears I have overdone the chilli.
I'm not binning it, but I do need to calm ot down!

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Here's an idea.

Breakfast: Keto porridge made with unsweetened almond milk ( I buy Alpro Almond No Sugars Long Life - it is zero carbs https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/276761995 ) - you can use it for anything you would use dairy milk for and it is excellent.

Keto porridge is made with a teaspoonful of coconut flour and another of almond flour/ground almonds - also easily obtainable from tesco and a spoonful of erythritol mixed together and zapped in the microwave for a minute or two until it thickens. You can then stir in a teaspoon of Greek yoghurt - plain with only around 4g of carbs per 100g so a teaspoon is hardly any carbs.

This is nutritionally dense and high in fats and proteins and other minerals and is very filling.

If you buy a bag of psyllium powder from Amazon you will then be set up to make extremely low carb cakes. What you start to change in your thinking is that a cake is now on keto an actually healthy meal choice.

You can make a mug cake with one egg and a tablesppon of melted butter, a teaspoon of almond flour/ground almonds another of coconut flour and one of psyllium powder (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Psyllium-Foodies-Servings-Maintain/dp/B08BZR7YCH/) - half a teaspoon of baking powder and some erythritol to sweeten.

The psyllium is fibre and people actually take it in water as a health supplement!! The almond and coconut flour has fat and protein and the butter of course has D vitamins and healthy fats.

If you add some nutmeg and or cinnamon or a teaspoon of 100% cocoa powder - it becomes a chocolate cup cake.

you mix the powders together and beat the egg with the melted butter and then fold the dry ingredients into the wet ones and then zap in the microwave - you will have a decent size individual portion cake.

You make jam from three strawberries and some erythritol zapped in the microwave and then stir in some chia seeds and wait a few minutes - the chia seeds will thicken the jam. Chai seeds are also available from tesco. A spoonful of jam and a tablespoon of whipped double cream (or if you want to save time - extra think double cream from tesco) can be sandwiched in the cake and you have a very quick and very yummy and extremely healthy meal that is not going to cause you any trouble with your diabetes.

I don't know where you get the idea that keto is about meat.

If you are not gluten intolerant then keto yeast bread is nearly entirely protein as the major ingredient is vital wheat gluten which is almost 100% protein. The rolls I showed are basically balls of protein. You can have them with anything you like. Even just spread with butter and some marmite and they are fine as a meal. Keto bread is not like ordinary wheat bread which is just empty calories and you have to have something else with it - keto bread is packed with fibre, huge amounts of protein, vitamins and minerals - if you chose my favourite keto bread recipe it includes ground wheat fibre and that holds all the vitamin Bs and another recipe uses flax seeds and they are incredibly nutritionally beneficial especially for PCOS.

The diet recommended for curing PCOS is a keto diet with plenty of flax and other fibres and only a moderate amount of meat. Vegans and vegetarians have been making something called Seitan forever and that is a protein meat substitute made of vital wheat gluten - so that gives you an idea of how protein packed keto yeast bread recipes usually are.

You could eat lettuce sandwiches and that would be a perfectly fine meal if you make them with keto recipe bread.

The problem is the high saturated fats in these recipes can push cholesterol through the roof, and very high calorie, so only ok if solely focused on BG, and nothing else.

 

[Nayshiftin]

Here's an idea.

Breakfast: Keto porridge made with unsweetened almond milk ( I buy Alpro Almond No Sugars Long Life - it is zero carbs https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/276761995 ) - you can use it for anything you would use dairy milk for and it is excellent.

Keto porridge is made with a teaspoonful of coconut flour and another of almond flour/ground almonds - also easily obtainable from tesco and a spoonful of erythritol mixed together and zapped in the microwave for a minute or two until it thickens. You can then stir in a teaspoon of Greek yoghurt - plain with only around 4g of carbs per 100g so a teaspoon is hardly any carbs.

This is nutritionally dense and high in fats and proteins and other minerals and is very filling.

If you buy a bag of psyllium powder from Amazon you will then be set up to make extremely low carb cakes. What you start to change in your thinking is that a cake is now on keto an actually healthy meal choice.

You can make a mug cake with one egg and a tablesppon of melted butter, a teaspoon of almond flour/ground almonds another of coconut flour and one of psyllium powder (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Psyllium-Foodies-Servings-Maintain/dp/B08BZR7YCH/) - half a teaspoon of baking powder and some erythritol to sweeten.

The psyllium is fibre and people actually take it in water as a health supplement!! The almond and coconut flour has fat and protein and the butter of course has D vitamins and healthy fats.

If you add some nutmeg and or cinnamon or a teaspoon of 100% cocoa powder - it becomes a chocolate cup cake.

you mix the powders together and beat the egg with the melted butter and then fold the dry ingredients into the wet ones and then zap in the microwave - you will have a decent size individual portion cake.

You make jam from three strawberries and some erythritol zapped in the microwave and then stir in some chia seeds and wait a few minutes - the chia seeds will thicken the jam. Chai seeds are also available from tesco. A spoonful of jam and a tablespoon of whipped double cream (or if you want to save time - extra think double cream from tesco) can be sandwiched in the cake and you have a very quick and very yummy and extremely healthy meal that is not going to cause you any trouble with your diabetes.

I don't know where you get the idea that keto is about meat.

If you are not gluten intolerant then keto yeast bread is nearly entirely protein as the major ingredient is vital wheat gluten which is almost 100% protein. The rolls I showed are basically balls of protein. You can have them with anything you like. Even just spread with butter and some marmite and they are fine as a meal. Keto bread is not like ordinary wheat bread which is just empty calories and you have to have something else with it - keto bread is packed with fibre, huge amounts of protein, vitamins and minerals - if you chose my favourite keto bread recipe it includes ground wheat fibre and that holds all the vitamin Bs and another recipe uses flax seeds and they are incredibly nutritionally beneficial especially for PCOS.

The diet recommended for curing PCOS is a keto diet with plenty of flax and other fibres and only a moderate amount of meat. Vegans and vegetarians have been making something called Seitan forever and that is a protein meat substitute made of vital wheat gluten - so that gives you an idea of how protein packed keto yeast bread recipes usually are.

You could eat lettuce sandwiches and that would be a perfectly fine meal if you make them with keto recipe bread.I realize its not about meat but thats the only normal ingredient. Flour is not freely available. Milk is not what he would have so more expense and even more strange additives he'll not go for any of it. Hes thin and not diabetic so his idea is cut out all luxuries and eat normally so I cannot do your fad diet.I have tried looking on the web sites and yes somethings even in those I would not have or eat or like. Flax seeds have very high cal content so I use them sparingly and some say even then its not the right kind. Keto bread is £5 a loaf delivered so even if I froze it he'd say he have 12 loaves for my one so its a treat he is not going to be persuaded into. I am not gluten free and hed say the Gp would supply that if needed.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

It's not for me to comment, but sometimes you need to spend though.
I didn't find I actually spent any more on a healthy diet, but I buy yellow labels, bulk offers when I can, nothing goes in the bin, leftovers get reused.

 

[Nayshiftin]

It's not for me to comment, but sometimes you need to spend though.
I didn't find I actually spent any more on a healthy diet, but I buy yellow labels, bulk offers when I can, nothing goes in the bin, leftovers get reused.

The problem is I have broken the bank in the past with this diet will work and slimming clubs snd private dieticians. So I do not blss as me him not wanting to try more things out. He sees me as fine . You’ve eaten that for years snd live just because I have this fat disease is no concern .

 

[Deleted member 21371]

The problem is I have broken the bank in the past with this diet will work and slimming clubs snd private dieticians. So I do not blss as me him not wanting to try more things out. He sees me as fine . You’ve eaten that for years snd live just because I have this fat disease is no concern .

Well it's not "no concern"
Then again, I managed by simply accepting I had to eat less.
The problem with many diets is the requirement to swap food out, or to eat until you are satiated.
I needed to accept I had to eat less to break the cycle.

 

[Leadinglights]

The problem is I have broken the bank in the past with this diet will work and slimming clubs snd private dieticians. So I do not blss as me him not wanting to try more things out. He sees me as fine . You’ve eaten that for years snd live just because I have this fat disease is no concern .

It sounds as if he is not too supportive and helpful. I was lucky in my other half completely got on board with the low carb regime and we have the same meals but he has a few extras. But he would certainly get short shrift if he told me not to buy something beneficial.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

This also depends on what "low carb" is.
Total out for it keto, or a more manageable 130g of carbs?
There is a lot of pressure for the first option.
Normally it's not practical, and driving down your BG can damage your eyes.
So for second option.
Nothing wrong with even my meal tonight on it.
(Purists would disagree, we all have different opinions)
A spicy rice noodle dish.
(I have gone from sweet to spice)
But variable to taste.
Basically tuna, chilli, garlic, soy sauce, marinade, and served with rice noodles.
So, rice noodles from hell, 72g of carbs per 100g.
50g per serving.
Main meal, still only around a third of the days allowance.
Some would faint at that amount of carbs in one meal though, but it's better than I used to eat before diagnosis, and I still have my vision.
I also added carrot sticks, (sliced by myself), sugar snaps, and mushrooms, so the meal could be served differently to two different people, more of somethings, less of others.

 

[Drummer]

I don't eat steak so your stir fry would just be veg and oil for me which id find tasteless. you would be staggering? I am just trying but like tomorrow we might have stuffed butternut squash which again has a bit of wholemeal bread. I can make jelly for myself that s a good idea in this heat but will miss the ice cream.

I have an icecream maker, so can turn out a sorbet or whatever I fancy - I did wonder if you were vegetarian from your choices.
When I stopped eating the low fat foods and ate what I consider normal foods - the fat which comes with meat, oily fish. cooking with animal fat saved from previous dishes, my cholesterol went down - something Dr Atkins also found happened for many of his patients.
If I was seeing higher numbers then I might be more willing to believe that fat is bad - but it doesn't seem to add up - and why - when I have lower than average cholesterol I am badgered to take statins and destroy my memory, I don't understand. Atorvastatin did it once and I have spent many long hours going over things I need to remember, they are not getting a second go.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I have an icecream maker, so can turn out a sorbet or whatever I fancy - I did wonder if you were vegetarian from your choices.
When I stopped eating the low fat foods and ate what I consider normal foods - the fat which comes with meat, oily fish. cooking with animal fat saved from previous dishes, my cholesterol went down - something Dr Atkins also found happened for many of his patients.
If I was seeing higher numbers then I might be more willing to believe that fat is bad - but it doesn't seem to add up - and why - when I have lower than average cholesterol I am badgered to take statins and destroy my memory, I don't understand. Atorvastatin did it once and I have spent many long hours going over things I need to remember, they are not getting a second go.

No, it'll kill you faster it appears.

Understanding Heart Disease

WebMD's guide to the symptoms of the various types of heart disease.

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[Nayshiftin]

No, it'll kill you faster it appears.

Understanding Heart Disease

WebMD's guide to the symptoms of the various types of heart disease.

www.webmd.com

There is so much of this one does not know where to turn.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

There is so much of this one does not know where to turn.

I decided to accept NHS advice, British Heart Foundation, Diabetes UK, etc, all the "big" names, and ignore those trying to sell me a book.

 

[Nayshiftin]

Yes, but even then it’s getting a routine that you can stick to within price and convenience and personal preference . I’m really going have to work out what does work