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I am so down , I’m fed up with diets and my HbA1c or nothing seems to motivate or shock me to lose weight. Would so love something to just make me want to starve and get back on track . The more I try the more I think of food . I do try but never succeed. Feeling rather low . Just want to comfort eat.
 
Do summat to take your mind off it then! Anything!
 
I have been having a dreadfully emotional time recently - the only way to cope is to plan for the meals to eat - get the meat out of the freezer the day before, go to the supermarket for fresh salad stuff, and factor in the time required to make yourself enjoyable dishes. Having eaten, find things to occupy the time, and the mind - away from food.
Luckily I have so many unfinished projects to complete - and there is always the housework, the sorting out and tidying away which is a real eater up of hours.
Start to prepare your next meal in good time, so you don't become hungry and tempted to eat something other than the meal.
My way of eating - low carb under 40gm a day, two meals with around 10 gm of carbs with the first one and up to 30 gm with the second. I have coffee with cream after meals - and these days some sugar free quash or fizzy drink. I need to add a small amount of salt to the coffee as I don't use it in cooking and get dreadful cramps otherwise.
 
I have been having a dreadfully emotional time recently - the only way to cope is to plan for the meals to eat - get the meat out of the freezer the day before, go to the supermarket for fresh salad stuff, and factor in the time required to make yourself enjoyable dishes. Having eaten, find things to occupy the time, and the mind - away from food.
Luckily I have so many unfinished projects to complete - and there is always the housework, the sorting out and tidying away which is a real eater up of hours.
Start to prepare your next meal in good time, so you don't become hungry and tempted to eat something other than the meal.
My way of eating - low carb under 40gm a day, two meals with around 10 gm of carbs with the first one and up to 30 gm with the second. I have coffee with cream after meals - and these days some sugar free quash or fizzy drink. I need to add a small amount of salt to the coffee as I don't use it in cooking and get dreadful cramps otherwise.
Thanks Drummer keep up your good work ..
 
It was a serious suggestion - I've always found if I get interested in something else whether it's reading a book or Rafa playing on Centre Court - it entirely takes my mind off the things I'm supposed to be doing/ought to be doing.

So - what interests you?

If you eat carby stuff whilst using the puter - occupy your hands with summat else whether it's tying knots in elastic bands to make a necklace or crocheting a square, knitting a parachute or a bit of origami. Once when I was trying to pack in smoking, I bought a packet of cheap pencils to chew on the wood of them instead of sticking a fag in my gob.
 
Are you on metformin @Nayshiftin? That is supposed to help with weight loss I've been told, though not sure if it's true! If you're trying by diet alone, it might be worth mentioning to your DN that you'd like to try it.

I agree that keeping busy helps but you can only do that for so many hours per day. When I'm busy I sometimes forget to have lunch but if the day is dragging I'm counting the hours and minutes down until I can eat! Maybe have a handful of nuts or a few small cubes of cheese at the ready? I truly wish you success, it is a disheartening place to be x
 
It was a serious suggestion - I've always found if I get interested in something else whether it's reading a book or Rafa playing on Centre Court - it entirely takes my mind off the things I'm supposed to be doing/ought to be doing.

So - what interests you?

If you eat carby stuff whilst using the puter - occupy your hands with summat else whether it's tying knots in elastic bands to make a necklace or crocheting a square, knitting a parachute or a bit of origami. Once when I was trying to pack in smoking, I bought a packet of cheap pencils to chew on the wood of them instead of sticking a fag in my gob.
Sorry , I took it the wrong way , felt like snap out of it. Yes I am trying to keep busy.
 
Are you on metformin @Nayshiftin? That is supposed to help with weight loss I've been told, though not sure if it's true! If you're trying by diet alone, it might be worth mentioning to your DN that you'd like to try it.

I agree that keeping busy helps but you can only do that for so many hours per day. When I'm busy I sometimes forget to have lunch but if the day is dragging I'm counting the hours and minutes down until I can eat! Maybe have a handful of nuts or a few small cubes of cheese at the ready? I truly wish you success, it is a disheartening place to be x
No I don’t like Metformin at all. Not many believe it bug with pcos it is easy to put weight on and worse if on metformin. It’s a very good drug fit many but for me no. They did suggest one that I’d pre out the sugar but that just gives urine infections. To be honest the diabetes seems okay to me . Since I’ve been trying to change it I’ve felt worse . So now I’m thinking of just ignoring it and trying to get positive and just let all this take it’s course. The difference effects the stress trying to live a weird life to me is not good. They suggested a wellness trainer but the surgery then is too busy. So for now I’m going to just opt out of all this Thank you everyone .
 
Sorry I came back you can always block me.
hey. Try to keep busy but also look after yourself, I like a nice bath or a bit of self indulgent TV (for me that's a car programme or a house programme). Phone someone you like and have a chat. Emotional eating is a danger to all of us (and it's how I got to be 101kg). You really don't want the dangerous side effects of diabetes - so stay positive and eat low carb; perhaps try the MR version of metformin. Hugs.
 
hey. Try to keep busy but also look after yourself, I like a nice bath or a bit of self indulgent TV (for me that's a car programme or a house programme). Phone someone you like and have a chat. Emotional eating is a danger to all of us (and it's how I got to be 101kg). You really don't want the dangerous side effects of diabetes - so stay positive and eat low carb; perhaps try the MR version of metformin. Hugs.
I think you mean Slow release MR and yes I tried that and it did not change the headaches the bloated ness the sickness n bad pop as well as staying in bed as felt so awful. Really the worst med for me as I need to be up on the move a lot. I am really at a crossroads as to what to do and just feel . It does get better as the day goes on . Going to do a bit more in the garden to keep me busy this morning .
 
@Nayshiftin, it really is the pits isn't it. I have been really good this week as I (nearly!) always am. Totting up the calories I should have lost at least another pound but I put one on instead. There often isn't any rhyme or reason to it. I've managed to stay calm despite wanting to go and eat cake in frustration and annoyance at the pesky pound. Enjoy your gardening, it's the right weather for it!
 
I think you mean Slow release MR and yes I tried that and it did not change the headaches the bloated ness the sickness n bad pop as well as staying in bed as felt so awful. Really the worst med for me as I need to be up on the move a lot. I am really at a crossroads as to what to do and just feel . It does get better as the day goes on . Going to do a bit more in the garden to keep me busy this morning .
If you are unable to tolerate any of the oral medications then maybe you should be considering that insulin might the way forward. It is not an easy way but it may help you focus your mind on making some better food choices.
I don't know if you have family but what motivated me to address my situation was the thought that I would not want my family to have to be my carer because of diabetic complications. I have had a taste of needing help following my knee surgery after my accident and my other half had the title of the Groom of the Stool and that I would not wish on anyone.
 
I don’t think they would give me insulin . Most I believe makes one gain weight. My HbA1c was 63 so I don’t really think it worth panicking over .
 
@Nayshiftin, it really is the pits isn't it. I have been really good this week as I (nearly!) always am. Totting up the calories I should have lost at least another pound but I put one on instead. There often isn't any rhyme or reason to it. I've managed to stay calm despite wanting to go and eat cake in frustration and annoyance at the pesky pound. Enjoy your gardening, it's the right weather for it!
That’s good you are tolerating it . My cholestral was 5.7 and I was on Atorvastatin but I’ve not continued with that as I was so unwell and my folate was low so they put me on folic acid s and iron tablets . Stopping metformin and statins has corrected those. Otherwise what a mixture of meds. I was talking to my cousin and a lot of us feel rather low at the moment . I think it’s the weather. I guess I’ll just see how I go . I am of the feeling though that I’m really just going to see how I go . If they did not test they’d not know any better.
 
That’s good you are tolerating it . My cholestral was 5.7 and I was on Atorvastatin but I’ve not continued with that as I was so unwell and my folate was low so they put me on folic acid s and iron tablets . Stopping metformin and statins has corrected those. Otherwise what a mixture of meds. I was talking to my cousin and a lot of us feel rather low at the moment . I think it’s the weather. I guess I’ll just see how I go . I am of the feeling though that I’m really just going to see how I go . If they did not test they’d not know any better.
You sound a lot like me.
I have PCOS and was on Metformin for that for years and it made me gain weight and I didn't like how I felt with it.

When I was diagnosed with Type 2 I did not diet to lose weight.
Despite that I have gently been reducing my weight but not on purpose and not with any kind of feeling as though I have been hard done by - because in fact the changes I made to my way of eating have made my relationship with food completely better than how it was.

I used to wake up in the morning dreading breakfast and being afraid to start eating because it was so tied up with feeling guilty and feeling fat and every time I tried to diet it was depressing upsetting and I ended up getting fatter when I inevitably stopped dieting and went back to eating 'normally.'

I spent decades avoiding fat, cream, butter, fried foods, bread, cheese, steaks and basically all the things I loved to eat and ate wholemeal stuff, brown rice, lentils five a day and felt iller and iller and my health got worse and worse.

When I got my Type 2 diagnosis I decided to just concentrate on getting my numbers straight and I cut out sugar first and then carbs. But I didn't just stop having the carb foods - I swapped them for things I actually wanted to eat.

I had never had a sweet tooth but I started wanting cakes and desserts. So I had them. In our house chocolate was often thrown away because it went off because nobody liked it.

I discovered 100% cocoa chocolate powder and started making my own dessert by just mixing a small amount of that with two tablespoons of double cream and a teaspoon of erythritol and a I had a single frozen strawberry with it.

I made myself bacon and egg for breakfast.

I learned how to make incredibly nice keto yeast bread.

I slathered butter on my broccoli and green beans - I found celeriac and made myself cottage pie or shepherds pie with 10% fat mince beef.

I have never 'fallen off the wagon' for three years. Because I enjoy the food I am eating better than I enjoyed the way I ate before. Also I never worry about calories and eat in a way that prior to my diagnosis I would have been convinced would make me gain and gain weight.

Instead I have been steadily and very slowly losing weight - the same way I gained it in the first place - as a side effect of how I eat rather than as a main intention.

I made these yesterday:

Each roll has fewer than 2 g carbs and they are a sensible size not teeny things.
This morning I had two of them with butter and a hard boiled egg and a huge hot dog sausage and a pot of home made lemon jelly ( 8g gelatine to 300 ml of liquid and I used 300 ml hot water and 300 ml lemon juice and lemon zest for flavour and erythritol to sweeten which made six pots of jelly ) - I was stuffed full and the total carbs of that meal was
4g - rolls
0.7g - hotdog
0.5g - egg
4g - jelly from the lemon juice
= 8.7g total

I had peppermint tea to drink.

I had no sugar spike and my bloods were 5.9 an hour after eating.

What I am trying to say is that with a sort of adventurous attitude and a determination to enjoy yourself and your food you can be conquering the diabetes and PCOS and having a happier time.
I just decided I was not going to be miserable about food any more and I was going to eat exactly what I wanted but I was going to find a way to make my favourite treats good for me by using different ingredients to get them.

Tomorrow I will be making keto ice cream - I haven't decided yet whether to have chocolate or strawberry.

Last night I wanted a fast cool treat so I blitzed four frozen strawberries with zero carb unsweetened almond milk and a teaspoon of finely milled flax seed and sweetened it to taste, I added a teaspoon of Greek yoghurt because I like some zing and I like to have some fermented food in each day to keep my friendly bacteria happy - I keep a jar of erythritol with a vanilla pod sitting in it and I use that for desserts. It took five minutes and it was lovely. And it was absolutely fine for my diabetes - the only carbs were whatever were in the four small strawberries and a tiny bit in the flax and yoghurt.

I am 60 now and I am feeling better and looking better than I did in my thirties.
 

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You sound a lot like me.
I have PCOS and was on Metformin for that for years and it made me gain weight and I didn't like how I felt with it.

When I was diagnosed with Type 2 I did not diet to lose weight.
Despite that I have gently been reducing my weight but not on purpose and not with any kind of feeling as though I have been hard done by - because in fact the changes I made to my way of eating have made my relationship with food completely better than how it was.

I used to wake up in the morning dreading breakfast and being afraid to start eating because it was so tied up with feeling guilty and feeling fat and every time I tried to diet it was depressing upsetting and I ended up getting fatter when I inevitably stopped dieting and went back to eating 'normally.'

I spent decades avoiding fat, cream, butter, fried foods, bread, cheese, steaks and basically all the things I loved to eat and ate wholemeal stuff, brown rice, lentils five a day and felt iller and iller and my health got worse and worse.

When I got my Type 2 diagnosis I decided to just concentrate on getting my numbers straight and I cut out sugar first and then carbs. But I didn't just stop having the carb foods - I swapped them for things I actually wanted to eat.

I had never had a sweet tooth but I started wanting cakes and desserts. So I had them. In our house chocolate was often thrown away because it went off because nobody liked it.

I discovered 100% cocoa chocolate powder and started making my own dessert by just mixing a small amount of that with two tablespoons of double cream and a teaspoon of erythritol and a I had a single frozen strawberry with it.

I made myself bacon and egg for breakfast.

I learned how to make incredibly nice keto yeast bread.

I slathered butter on my broccoli and green beans - I found celeriac and made myself cottage pie or shepherds pie with 10% fat mince beef.

I have never 'fallen off the wagon' for three years. Because I enjoy the food I am eating better than I enjoyed the way I ate before. Also I never worry about calories and eat in a way that prior to my diagnosis I would have been convinced would make me gain and gain weight.

Instead I have been steadily and very slowly losing weight - the same way I gained it in the first place - as a side effect of how I eat rather than as a main intention.

I made these yesterday:

Each roll has fewer than 2 g carbs and they are a sensible size not teeny things.
This morning I had two of them with butter and a hard boiled egg and a huge hot dog sausage and a pot of home made lemon jelly ( 8g gelatine to 300 ml of liquid and I used 300 ml hot water and 300 ml lemon juice and lemon zest for flavour and erythritol to sweeten which made six pots of jelly ) - I was stuffed full and the total carbs of that meal was
4g - rolls
0.7g - hotdog
0.5g - egg
4g - jelly from the lemon juice
= 8.7g total

I had peppermint tea to drink.

I had no sugar spike and my bloods were 5.9 an hour after eating.

What I am trying to say is that with a sort of adventurous attitude and a determination to enjoy yourself and your food you can be conquering the diabetes and PCOS and having a happier time.
I just decided I was not going to be miserable about food any more and I was going to eat exactly what I wanted but I was going to find a way to make my favourite treats good for me by using different ingredients to get them.

Tomorrow I will be making keto ice cream - I haven't decided yet whether to have chocolate or strawberry.

Last night I wanted a fast cool treat so I blitzed four frozen strawberries with zero carb unsweetened almond milk and a teaspoon of finely milled flax seed and sweetened it to taste, I added a teaspoon of Greek yoghurt because I like some zing and I like to have some fermented food in each day to keep my friendly bacteria happy - I keep a jar of erythritol with a vanilla pod sitting in it and I use that for desserts. It took five minutes and it was lovely. And it was absolutely fine for my diabetes - the only carbs were whatever were in the four small strawberries and a tiny bit in the flax and yoghurt.

I am 60 now and I am feeling better and looking better than I did in my thirties.
Thank you for sharing . Yes I have pcos too. I wonder I am 58 so in s couple of years time can I look better. I struggle with the keto diet as so much meat is involved . I struggle as I don’t like advocados either. I don’t need to count carbs as long as I don’t eat too many . Milk seems to up my glucose . But then somethings are better for cholestral than others. I’m so soul destroyed I need a friend . Someone to get me motivated and on a good diet . Still usually I have to pay for someone like that . Then resist the control . Never mind . I’ll try and think of you at 60 and aim ti feel better. I am happy for you.
 
I suggest that you forget the weightloss, the cholesterol, the exercise - the problem is the level of glucose in your blood - reducing the amount of carbs you consume should do the trick and probably help with the other problems as well, but they are really not what you need to focus on.
 
I suggest that you forget the weightloss, the cholesterol, the exercise - the problem is the level of glucose in your blood - reducing the amount of carbs you consume should do the trick and probably help with the other problems as well, but they are really not what you need to focus on.
I’ve tried but could not starve on low carb . Unless you eat eggs daily which is not bad for cholestral there is little else . Yoghurt n well straws or rasps for breakfast or a pudding is lovely . But not daily . Salad salad salad . Cerleric and zucchini snd not much else . Curry / chilli with cauliflower rice . I’ve been there and failed. Hubby would Never pay £5.00 for a loaf of bread maybe £1.50 but no more . Burgen made no difference . I just think your amazing if you can buy all the expensive stuff and follow rigid meals . I don’t like afvicsdos nuts are a treat at Xmas snd I gained massive amounts of weight on them plus the loo effect. I’ve reduced milk in coffee now by having black so that’s one change that’s lowered it a bit . I just need to find satiety foods that are low carb and keep me going .
 
I’ve tried but could not starve on low carb . Unless you eat eggs daily which is not bad for cholestral there is little else . Yoghurt n well straws or rasps for breakfast or a pudding is lovely . But not daily . Salad salad salad . Cerleric and zucchini snd not much else . Curry / chilli with cauliflower rice . I’ve been there and failed. Hubby would Never pay £5.00 for a loaf of bread maybe £1.50 but no more . Burgen made no difference . I just think your amazing if you can buy all the expensive stuff and follow rigid meals . I don’t like afvicsdos nuts are a treat at Xmas snd I gained massive amounts of weight on them plus the loo effect. I’ve reduced milk in coffee now by having black so that’s one change that’s lowered it a bit . I just need to find satiety foods that are low carb and keep me going .
I don't know if you are imagining that with low carb of around 130g per day which is actually pretty generous, that you cannot have satisfying meals, have you looked for low carb veggie meals on the internet as there are lots on there with ingredients which are not too expensive.
Salads can be interesting, not just the usual lettuce, tomato and cucumber but shredded cabbage and carrot, grated beetroot, spring onion, mangetout, olives, feta cheese.
A sugar free jelly with some added berries makes a good desert with a bit of cream or Kvarg deserts.
 
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