Prediabetic

[Sulfate]

Can anyone tell me do you test blood 2 hours after you have eaten and finished your meal or from the first bite of food? Thanks

 

[Leadinglights]

Can anyone tell me do you test blood 2 hours after you have eaten and finished your meal or from the first bite of food? Thanks

Normally from the first bite of food. As soon as food hits your mouth it starts to be digested by the enzymes in your saliva.9

 

[Sulfate]

Normally from the first bite of food. As soon as food hits your mouth it starts to be digested by the enzymes in your saliva.9

Thankyou

 

[Sulfate]

I have taken my blood glucose before dinner and it was 6.6 and 2 hours later it was 6.4 is that normal or an unusual result I dont really understand too well my readings. As always help would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Leadinglights]

I have taken my blood glucose before dinner and it was 6.6 and 2 hours later it was 6.4 is that normal or an unusual result I dont really understand too well my readings. As always help would be appreciated. Thanks

6.6 and 6.4 are essentially the same so indicates that your meal was very OK for you as your system had coped well with whatever you had as you had returned to the premeal level.
As long as your after meal is no more than 2-3 more than the premeal then what you are was good for you. Trying to keep your after meal to less than 8.5mmol/l is a good idea as well.

 

[Sulfate]

6.6 and 6.4 are essentially the same so indicates that your meal was very OK for you as your system had coped well with whatever you had as you had returned to the premeal level.
As long as your after meal is no more than 2-3 more than the premeal then what you are was good for you. Trying to keep your after meal to less than 8.5mmol/l is a good idea as well.

Thanks very much that is really helpful. So if I get particularly good readings after certain meals they are the types of meals I should continue to eat. I'm learning every day. Thanks Leadinglights!

 

[Burylancs]

130g?
Do you have a link to that, I've never seen anything like that on here?

Usually most people tailor their diet to one that suits them, and is sustainable, while giving a good BG.

Diabetes uk doesn't recommend eating less than 130 g of carbs a day. The page being quoted just defines low Carbing as eating less than 130g. Far from recommending it it says it doesn't suit everyone and it also proposes the more traditional Mediterranean Diet. The 130g figure is a mystery - the brain needs the equivalent amount of glucose to that produced by 130g of carbs. The simplest way to ensure the brain gets its high octane brain food is to eat 130g of carbs a day. In general low carbing is not recommended because of its association with increased risks if heart disease, kidney problems, thyroid problems ( the thyroid needs glucose to process T4 into T3 ) and adrenal fatigue.

 

[Leadinglights]

Diabetes uk doesn't recommend eating less than 130 g of carbs a day. The page being quoted just defines low Carbing as eating less than 130g. Far from recommending it it says it doesn't suit everyone and it also proposes the more traditional Mediterranean Diet. The 130g figure is a mystery - the brain needs the equivalent amount of glucose to that produced by 130g of carbs. The simplest way to ensure the brain gets its high octane brain food is to eat 130g of carbs a day. In general low carbing is not recommended because of its association with increased risks if heart disease, kidney problems, thyroid problems ( the thyroid needs glucose to process T4 into T3 ) and adrenal fatigue.

This is from the diabetes uk web site, which is where people are getting the 130g from:
What’s a low-carb diet?
But how low is low-carb? There are different types of low-carb diets. Generally, low-carb eating is when you reduce the total amount of carbs you consume in a day to less than 130g.

Whether you interpret that as they are promoting it or just saying it is an option.

 

[silentsquirrel]

Diabetes uk doesn't recommend eating less than 130 g of carbs a day.

But many of us on the forum do recommend it, based on experience of what works for us. No need to follow all the advice of DUK, it was so far out for T2s in the past that I see no reason to suppose they have got it right now.

 

[Sulfate]

I have just read my pre dinner and after dinner blood glucose. I had a shock 4.6 pre dinner and 10.8 2hrs after! The carbs were 53g which to be honest is not alot higher than other meals I have had in the week and I cant work out what would have made such a big reading?

 

[Deleted member 21371]

But many of us on the forum do recommend it, based on experience of what works for us. No need to follow all the advice of DUK, it was so far out for T2s in the past that I see no reason to suppose they have got it right now.

Maybe you need to put in complaint if you believe DUK are actively harming people, and low carb is the only way?

 

[Leadinglights]

I have just read my pre dinner and after dinner blood glucose. I had a shock 4.6 pre dinner and 10.8 2hrs after! The carbs were 53g which to be honest is not alot higher than other meals I have had in the week and I cant work out what would have made such a big reading?

That does seem a large increase however 53g carbs in one meal is quite a lot, what precisely did you have? There are some people who find that particular foods increase their levels more than the carbs would indicate. You before dinner reading was pretty good.

 

[Sulfate]

M & S prawn bhuna 13.2 carbs, cauliflower rice 8 carbs , half a small Peshawari nan 13.6 a mini white chocolate magnum 11.3 carbs. Mango chutney 7 carbs and 2 gin and slimline tonics ( its Saturday night!!)

 

[Sulfate]

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That does seem a large increase however 53g carbs in one meal is quite a lot, what precisely did you have? There are some people who find that particular foods increase their levels more than the carbs would indicate. You before dinner reading was pretty good.

Is there a rough guide of how many carbs you should have each meal

 

[silentsquirrel]

Maybe you need to put in complaint if you believe DUK are actively harming people, and low carb is the only way?

Not what I said.

 

[Drummer]

I have just read my pre dinner and after dinner blood glucose. I had a shock 4.6 pre dinner and 10.8 2hrs after! The carbs were 53g which to be honest is not alot higher than other meals I have had in the week and I cant work out what would have made such a big reading?

That is the sort of reaction I would have got, back when I ate 50 gm of carbs as the absolute maximum if I had eaten them all at once. I am very sensitive to carbs.
I have found that, as time has gone on, my ability to cope with carbs has improved - but it did take some time of adjusting after meal numbers down to under 8 mmol/l and then sticking to low carb to put things right.

 

[Leadinglights]

M & S prawn bhuna 13.2 carbs, cauliflower rice 8 carbs , half a small Peshawari nan 13.6 a mini white chocolate magnum 11.3 carbs. Mango chutney 7 carbs and 2 gin and slimline tonics ( its Saturday night!!)

Individually they don't seem a lot but eaten all together they were obviously too much for you to tolerate and keep within a 2-3 mmol/l rise. It is difficult to say how much any one person can have at each meal as everybody will be different in what they can tolerate.
I know that for me that would be too much as my daily carbs are 70g max so I try to keep breakfast to max 15g, Lunch max 20g and dinner 20-25g, the rest being for milk in drinks but I have only found what suits me by testing.
One consolation the G & T wouldn't add any carbs.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Is there a rough guide of how many carbs you should have each meal

Good to see you are getting some very steady numbers @Sulfate

Each person’s tolerance to different amounts and types of carbohydrate can be very individual, and sometimes very surprising!

As an example, our old admin @Northerner used to be particularly sensitive to naan bread, if I remember right.

That’s not to say that that might be the same for you - but just that many people find that ‘are carbs are not created equal’, and even that having things at a different time of day can make a difference.

If you’ve had a meal where you saw a bigger rise than you were expecting, it might be worth experimenting with either repeating it to see if you get the same reaction, or repeating it but leaving one thing out to see if it alters the result.

Keep going! 🙂

 

[Sulfate]

Good to see you are getting some very steady numbers @Sulfate

Each person’s tolerance to different amounts and types of carbohydrate can be very individual, and sometimes very surprising!

As an example, our old admin @Northerner used to be particularly sensitive to naan bread, if I remember right.

That’s not to say that that might be the same for you - but just that many people find that ‘are carbs are not created equal’, and even that having things at a different time of day can make a difference.

If you’ve had a meal where you saw a bigger rise than you were expecting, it might be worth experimenting with either repeating it to see if you get the same reaction, or repeating it but leaving one thing out to see if it alters the result.

Keep going! 🙂

Thanks so much for the encouragement.

 

[Sulfate]

I have just eaten a small apple as a snack and I looked it up on Nutracheck and the carbs are 15! I'm so shocked. A banana is 20 and a pear high too. I thought it was a healthy snack. I'm finding looking for low carb food which I actually want to eat is really quite difficult. Last night I 66g of new potatoes (4 very small) chicken and low carb salad stuff with a kefir mango yoghurt ( low sugar but 13g carbs) and my glucose readings were 6.2 before and 9.5 after. For lunch today I had a cheese sandwich with low carb bread(3g per slice and I had 3 slices) and the same kefir yoghurt-pre lunch 5.8 2hrs after 6.7. From that I thought the yoghurt is ok but surely 4 small potatoes wouldn't give such a high reading?