Xyla TDR Programme

[Chris1962]

Hi
I am newly diagnosed as at risk of Type 2 Diabetes and have been enrolled onto the NHS/Xyla TDR programme and wondered if anyone else here is on the same programme as well. I am just over halfway through the TDR phase and the results so far are awesome
Chris

 

[Cherrelle DUK]

Hi Chris1962, welcome to the forum.

I haven't heard about anyone going through that particular programme but we have many on the site who have done diet replacement type programmes which have worked well for them too.

How were you able to join the programme? Are you able to share some of the results or insights you've had?

 

[Chris1962]

Of course.

At my annual review with the Practice Nurse...I'm over 50....I had a spiked blood sugar. Apparently I had been pre diabetic for a few years. She asked if I would consider going onto the NHS/Xyla Programme to try to prevent my going onto to Metformin. I said absolutely...being a nurse I didn't really want to go down the well trodden diabetes route if there was a possible alternative to prevent this. She said it was a big commitment but I thought what did I have to lose and said go for it ! As you know there are a few different types of TDR approach being trialled across the NHS and in Derbyshire we are lucky to be one of the regions doing this...in our case with Xyla.

I am amazed at how it's going. I don't feel hungry...I am in TDR phase at moment on 800 cals and 2L+ of fluid per day....I used to eat 800 cals for breakfast lol ! So far my Blood Sugar (via BM) is back to normal range, my weight is down 15kg, my blood pressure is what it was whilst on Losartan but w/o the meds (you have to come off these on Day 1 as you know), my BMI has dropped 5 points and my body fat index is down 3%. So all going good so far! (I am 7 weeks into the 12 week TDR phase.)

I think the main reason for this is being motivated to keep with it....my wife is supporting me incredibly well, to the point of joining me with my eating regime once I start on food reintroduction completely at week 17. This makes it easier. The support from diabetes practitioners, the regular group Teams meetings and online modules make it easier than trying to go it alone I think as it is life style change they are aiming for.....diet, exercise, mental wellbeing and how you see yourself, as well as developing going mechanisms for when you have a bad day during and after the programme

As someone in the group said...its a year out of your life to potentially make life long changes and improved health outcomes for yourself

The mobile phone app helps as there is a community chat for help/encouragement from others at various stages on the programme and this whole package approach is why I think works. I know for me I wouldn't be able to kept up going solo...we shall see what my final outcomes are in Sept 2023 !

Hope that is what you wanted !

Chris

 

[ianf0ster]

Ah. so it's a variation on the well known 'Newcastle diet'.
If that doesn't suit you or doesn't work for you for any reason, I suggest trying a Low Carb way of eating instead, which has similar (if not better) results.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

my BMI has dropped 5 points and my body fat index is down 3%. So all going good so far! (I am 7 weeks into the 12 week TDR phase.)

Sounds like you are going great guns @Chris1962

Let us know how the last month of the programme goes 🙂

 

[Lucyr]

So far my Blood Sugar (via BM) is back to normal range, my weight is down 15kg

Sounds like great progress but how are you checking blood sugar through your bowel movements? Do you mean urine sticks rather than poo samples?

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Of course.

At my annual review with the Practice Nurse...I'm over 50....I had a spiked blood sugar. Apparently I had been pre diabetic for a few years. She asked if I would consider going onto the NHS/Xyla Programme to try to prevent my going onto to Metformin. I said absolutely...being a nurse I didn't really want to go down the well trodden diabetes route if there was a possible alternative to prevent this. She said it was a big commitment but I thought what did I have to lose and said go for it ! As you know there are a few different types of TDR approach being trialled across the NHS and in Derbyshire we are lucky to be one of the regions doing this...in our case with Xyla.

I am amazed at how it's going. I don't feel hungry...I am in TDR phase at moment on 800 cals and 2L+ of fluid per day....I used to eat 800 cals for breakfast lol ! So far my Blood Sugar (via BM) is back to normal range, my weight is down 15kg, my blood pressure is what it was whilst on Losartan but w/o the meds (you have to come off these on Day 1 as you know), my BMI has dropped 5 points and my body fat index is down 3%. So all going good so far! (I am 7 weeks into the 12 week TDR phase.)

I think the main reason for this is being motivated to keep with it....my wife is supporting me incredibly well, to the point of joining me with my eating regime once I start on food reintroduction completely at week 17. This makes it easier. The support from diabetes practitioners, the regular group Teams meetings and online modules make it easier than trying to go it alone I think as it is life style change they are aiming for.....diet, exercise, mental wellbeing and how you see yourself, as well as developing going mechanisms for when you have a bad day during and after the programme

As someone in the group said...its a year out of your life to potentially make life long changes and improved health outcomes for yourself

The mobile phone app helps as there is a community chat for help/encouragement from others at various stages on the programme and this whole package approach is why I think works. I know for me I wouldn't be able to kept up going solo...we shall see what my final outcomes are in Sept 2023 !

Hope that is what you wanted !

Chris

Sounds an excellent start.
I reversed my diabetes on the Newcastle Diet.
Like you seem to have already, I started to get the "it won't work, go low carb instead"
How diet control is "better" than eating a normal diet, I couldn't fathom.
I now eat just a normal healthy Mediterranean style diet.
Keep at it, it's well worth it.

 

[42istheanswer]

Sounds like great progress but how are you checking blood sugar through your bowel movements? Do you mean urine sticks rather than poo samples?

BM is the old medical term for checking blood glucose through finger pricks and a machine that takes strips Lucy

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

BM is the old medical term for checking blood glucose through finger pricks and a machine that takes strips Lucy

”BM Sticks”, after Boeringher Mannheim, the manufacturers 🙂

Predated meters in my experience. Two pads at the end of a strip which changed colour and you read them off on the colour chart on the side of the pot.

 

[42istheanswer]

When I did my nursing training 20 odd years ago, we still referred to checking BG for diabetic patients using meters as BM. "Can I just do your BM please?"

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

When I did my nursing training 20 odd years ago, we still referred to checking BG for diabetic patients using meters as BM. "Can I just do your BM please?"

It’s amazing how it has persisted over all these years! Makes me smile a little whenever I hear it. 🙂

 

[Chris1962]

Yes I am old and still refer to the BG finger prick tests as BM tests - which to be honest I find most nurses I practice alongside do too still. Whatever u call them etc it’s the simple finger prick BG test

 

[Chris1962]

Sounds an excellent start.
I reversed my diabetes on the Newcastle Diet.
Like you seem to have already, I started to get the "it won't work, go low carb instead"
How diet control is "better" than eating a normal diet, I couldn't fathom.
I now eat just a normal healthy Mediterranean style diet.
Keep at it, it's well worth it.

Having lived around the Med Region I think that’s the way I will go at the end of the programme too