MySugr app how to view active insulin and previous injections?

[mum2westiesGill]

Is there a way on the app of viewing what's left of active (correction) insulin and also insulin left from previous injections?

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

As far as I am aware Roche-style bolus calculators (of which mySugr is now one) don’t track any insulin in it’s active insulin that is set against carbs. They only count correction insulin in the active insulin measure - so if your active insulin reads 0.0u soon after a meal, that is because you don’t have any correction insulin active.

@trophywench @Pattidevans and @SB2015 are all experienced Roche pump users (though @SB2015 has since switched ).

Hopefully they might be able to give you pointers on how you can find / track carb insulin if it’s tucked away anywhere?

 

[Lucyr]

What are you looking to do with the information?

Active correction insulin will be taken into account when you test your blood sugar and calculate a correction. Knowing active insulin by itself without testing isn’t that useful.

 

[mum2westiesGill]

As far as I am aware Roche-style bolus calculators (of which mySugr is now one) don’t track any insulin in it’s active insulin that is set against carbs. They only count correction insulin in the active insulin measure - so if your active insulin reads 0.0u soon after a meal, that is because you don’t have any correction insulin active.

@trophywench @Pattidevans and @SB2015 are all experienced Roche pump users (though @SB2015 has since switched ).

Hopefully they might be able to give you pointers on how you can find / track carb insulin if it’s tucked away anywhere?

Thanks and yes I did know that they only count correction insulin in the active insulin measure.

@Sally71 is another experienced Roche pump user.

 

[mum2westiesGill]

What are you looking to do with the information?

Active correction insulin will be taken into account when you test your blood sugar and calculate a correction. Knowing active insulin by itself without testing isn’t that useful.

I'm not really looking at doing anything with the information apart from making sure it's counting the insulin units down as it should be doing lol.

I suppose really although I've got another thread somewhere about insulin stacking and meals closer together than 4 hours I still get frightened about possible stacking and causing a hypo.

I would love sometimes to have a small snack for example a biscuit or a bag of crisps in-between my meals.

I know that active correction insulin less than 4 hours apart is more to do with stacking but like my DSN said "any fast acting insulin meaning not only correction insulin but also insulin for mealtime carbs will accumulate" "so at least 3 hours between meals is best"

I'm not sure if this is bit of contradiction "The best thing about your insulin regime is that you are not ruled by the clock . You can eat when you like as long as you remember that the fast acting will accumulate"

 

[Sally71]

Active insulin is the bit I’m less clued up about unfortunately, and I don’t know where you can find it in your app, sorry
But I do know that it will only show the correction amount as active, any insulin entered for carbs it will assume is used up by the carbs and won’t show that as active.
I have no idea what rules it uses to count down how much active insulin is left, but I do know that it will use that information when it calculates how much correction insulin you need, and depending on how soon it is after your previous correction it will either not suggest a correction or will suggest a smaller one. Have your snack if you want one and don’t worry about it, that’s what we do! It’s no different from bolusing for your pudding separately from your main course which I think you do occasionally 🙂

 

[PattiEvans]

As far as I am aware Roche-style bolus calculators (of which mySugr is now one) don’t track any insulin in it’s active insulin that is set against carbs. They only count correction insulin in the active insulin measure - so if your active insulin reads 0.0u soon after a meal, that is because you don’t have any correction insulin active.

@trophywench @Pattidevans and @SB2015 are all experienced Roche pump users (though @SB2015 has since switched ).

Hopefully they might be able to give you pointers on how you can find / track carb insulin if it’s tucked away anywhere?

I've always thought it was fairly simple. On my Roche pump handset I can "view data", click on the last entry which will tell me how many carbs I bolussed for + how much insulin. Given my ratio is 1:10 it's easy to see how much insulin was for the carbs and how much was a correction. e.g. at dinner last night BG was 8.8, I bolussed for 35g carbs and the dose was calculated as 4,4 which tells me that 0.9 was a correction. Of course it's a bit more complicated if your ratio is other than 1:10. But surely the important thing here is how long the actual insulin lasts in your individual system?

I see from @mum2westiesGill is on Humalog and has her acting time set at 4 hours. When I was on Humalog it lasted something like 5.5 hours for me. That said, it's all individual.

In any case if you're dosing for a snack you're only dosing for the carbs you are about to eat. My pump will calculate whether or not it adds any further correction dose and I just go with it. My hypos are usually caused by over-estimating the carbs I am about to eat, because I often don't finish the meal. I usually anticipate that afterwards and have a bit of choccie or something. Alternatively they're caused by too much basal over a particular period of the day - a sign I need to adjust the basal rates on my pump.

 

[mum2westiesGill]

Active insulin is the bit I’m less clued up about unfortunately, and I don’t know where you can find it in your app, sorry
But I do know that it will only show the correction amount as active, any insulin entered for carbs it will assume is used up by the carbs and won’t show that as active.
I have no idea what rules it uses to count down how much active insulin is left, but I do know that it will use that information when it calculates how much correction insulin you need, and depending on how soon it is after your previous correction it will either not suggest a correction or will suggest a smaller one.

Have your snack if you want one and don’t worry about it, that’s what we do! It’s no different from bolusing for your pudding separately from your main course which I think you do occasionally 🙂

So when you have a snack - if it was in between meals or in between teatime and bedtime would you do an extra bolus for it if it was 10g or over of carbs?
The in between teatime and bedtime for me is when I'm sat watching tv and want to snack on crisps. My worry then is my BGL at bedtime and the 8mmol under or over saga.....