low carb and cream

[lucy123]

Hi - I have been looking at some low carb recipes for soups and they seem to include a small amount of cream - is cream low carb? The soups do sound nice - just read one for mushroom soup and normally love Heinz but guess it isn't low carb?

Also any ideas what to replace the usual chunky bread with when trying to low carb?

Also - any idea when reading a label what limit is determined as low carb for someone who needs to lose a lot of weight?

e.g 100 ml of orange juice = 10.4g of carbs - how do I determine if low carb?

Sorry just trying to get my head around a low carb diet - been doing low gi for a long time now and fancy coming at it from a different angle!🙂

 

[novorapidboi26]

I suppose picking a total daily carb intake would be a good start, and then just monitoring whats going in with respect to that total daily intake....

I eat too much, between 200-250g of carbs........😱

How much are you having currently........?

 

[lucy123]

I suppose picking a total daily carb intake would be a good start, and then just monitoring whats going in with respect to that total daily intake....

I eat too much, between 200-250g of carbs........😱

How much are you having currently........?

To be honest - I don't know!
I haven't really started looking at carb intake at the moment - just the recipes. I have been doing low gi for a long time now and fancy coming at a little differently to see if it helps.

So do you mean start off with say 150g and see if I lose weight after a week and if I don't then lower it a bit or a lot depending?

 

[Pumper_Sue]

Hi Lucy cream has very few carbs, but obviously full of fat which equals calories So do use in moderation.
To lower your carb intake the easiest option would be to set a limit for each meal.
This way you can then look at food packets and work out how much of that item you can include in your meal.

Ps, orange juice is best for hypo treatment only, as will spike your blood sugars something awful.

 

[Pumper_Sue]

So do you mean start off with say 150g and see if I lose weight after a week and if I don't then lower it a bit or a lot depending?

That sounds like a good starting point Lucy. 🙂 Can you or do you exercise at all as even walking will help?

 

[lucy123]

Hi Lucy cream has very few carbs, but obviously full of fat which equals calories So do use in moderation.
To lower your carb intake the easiest option would be to set a limit for each meal.
This way you can then look at food packets and work out how much of that item you can include in your meal.

Ps, orange juice is best for hypo treatment only, as will spike your blood sugars something awful.

Its what to set the limit at to start with Sue that I am struggling with - what am I like - I couldn't tell you if 50g or 500g is closer to the mark for weight loss.
Thanks for the answer on cream. Its strange I have been able to get away with cream etc and weight loss in the past but never understood why - but do know that carbs pile the weight on me. Only problem in the past has been that I have cut carbs practically out altogether and then crashed after about 3 weeks and given up.

I do know though that if i eat bread or pasta (even brown) I bloat - so maybe it will work for me!

 

[Pumper_Sue]

Its what to set the limit at to start with Sue that I am struggling with - what am I like - I couldn't tell you if 50g or 500g is closer to the mark for weight loss.
Thanks for the answer on cream. Its strange I have been able to get away with cream etc and weight loss in the past but never understood why - but do know that carbs pile the weight on me. Only problem in the past has been that I have cut carbs practically out altogether and then crashed after about 3 weeks and given up.

I do know though that if i eat bread or pasta (even brown) I bloat - so maybe it will work for me!

As I understand it the very low carbers use more fat than the non low carbers.
Like you pasta and bread makes me bloat so tend not to eat it.
I'm sure you will manage to sort something out to suit you and that you can sustain.

 

[cherrypie]

Hi Lucy,

Set a reasonable level of carbs for yourself, say 100 - 120 and see how that goes. Your meter will tell you if that is sufficient as will your feelings or not of hunger. Most people who low carb do not use any thing labelled "light" as they need the fat to keep them feeling full. Cream, butter, bacon, sausages etc. can be eaten. I have heard it is harder to do a low carb diet if you are limiting your fat intake as well. Very low carbers will not exceed 50 per day.

There are recipes online for things like low carb bread and crackers. A moderate carb diet is fine, it is when people say I am low carbing but really mean I am reducing my carbs that there is such confusion. Onlookers always think Atkins and alarm bells ring about the suitability for a diabetic. I have noticed that like all diets, there comes a time when people stall using this method.

If you have been doing the low G.I. method then you will know that you have to limit fats so with this new method you will be lowering the carbs but upping the fats.

As for orange juice, do you really include that in your diet or was that just an example? I miss fruit juice like mad but know that it will send my BG into orbit, sugar free or not.

 

[Robster65]

Hi Lucy.

Pretty much what's been said, but you need to look at getting a reasonable level of calories for weight loss, figuring in your current height, weight and the level of exercise you're doing.

www.myfitnesspal.com is a very good website to track your intake and can give you an idea of how many calories you need, but it's based on average needs, so don't take it as gospel.

For a diabetic, especially a T2, your body metabolises carbs less efficiently than non-Ds, so may well convert carbs to fat rather than burn the calories as anyone else's body does. Hence the low carbing and replacing carbs with fat and/or protein. You can metabolise these as anyone else, as far as I know.

So as long as your total calories are meeting your needs, you can choose which proportion of the food groups you eat (carb, fat, protein) but bear in mind that they all take different times to digest and so you may need to adjust meal times, etc.

This is all as I understand it. I'm a high carber (more than NRboi 😱) and get by just fine. But I don't think T1s need to low carb unless they find it helps their control.

Good luck.🙂

Rob

 

[lucy123]

Hi Lucy,

Set a reasonable level of carbs for yourself, say 100 - 120 and see how that goes. Your meter will tell you if that is sufficient as will your feelings or not of hunger. Most people who low carb do not use any thing labelled "light" as they need the fat to keep them feeling full. Cream, butter, bacon, sausages etc. can be eaten. I have heard it is harder to do a low carb diet if you are limiting your fat intake as well. Very low carbers will not exceed 50 per day.

There are recipes online for things like low carb bread and crackers. A moderate carb diet is fine, it is when people say I am low carbing but really mean I am reducing my carbs that there is such confusion. Onlookers always think Atkins and alarm bells ring about the suitability for a diabetic. I have noticed that like all diets, there comes a time when people stall using this method.

If you have been doing the low G.I. method then you will know that you have to limit fats so with this new method you will be lowering the carbs but upping the fats.

As for orange juice, do you really include that in your diet or was that just an example? I miss fruit juice like mad but know that it will send my BG into orbit, sugar free or not.

Thanks Cherrypie - I only generally have the OJ if hypo or heading that way after some intense exercise - it was just an example in this case. Thank you for the explanation. I am just online with tesco at the moment going through this weeks purchases to get a feel for whats ok and whats definitely not!

 

[lucy123]

Hi Lucy.

Pretty much what's been said, but you need to look at getting a reasonable level of calories for weight loss, figuring in your current height, weight and the level of exercise you're doing.

www.myfitnesspal.com is a very good website to track your intake and can give you an idea of how many calories you need, but it's based on average needs, so don't take it as gospel.

For a diabetic, especially a T2, your body metabolises carbs less efficiently than non-Ds, so may well convert carbs to fat rather than burn the calories as anyone else's body does. Hence the low carbing and replacing carbs with fat and/or protein. You can metabolise these as anyone else, as far as I know.

So as long as your total calories are meeting your needs, you can choose which proportion of the food groups you eat (carb, fat, protein) but bear in mind that they all take different times to digest and so you may need to adjust meal times, etc.

This is all as I understand it. I'm a high carber (more than NRboi 😱) and get by just fine. But I don't think T1s need to low carb unless they find it helps their control.

Good luck.🙂

Rob

Thanks Rob - I am getting the idea its what fits me. So I am going to have a go on 130g of carbs for the next week but being careful not to increase the cals and fat too much and will see how I go- everything is worth a try I guess.