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cathplum

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Hi,

I've recently found out that I'm menopausal. I'm only 44. I saw my diabetic consultant last week and did ask him about HRT and diabetes; but got very little information or recommendations.

If I go the supplements (alternative to HRT) route - how will these affect my diabetes?

Any suggestions or advice would be gratefully appreciated!

I will be seeking more advise from GP.

Thanks Cath
 
Well I know I'm T1 but a) I am a woman b) I was on the pill from several years before diagnosis until my late 30's, when I was sterilised (my choice). c) After several more years I had terrible PMT and so went onto hormone tablets to correct that, which it did and d) then got fibroids with accompanying horrific periods so went of hormone treatment for that, when they didn't work any more I went for the op. e) after my hysterectomy in 1994 I went onto and stayed on HRT until about 10 years ago when GP said I had to come off it giving no really good reasons, so I had to have my menopause. f) Since then I've suffered with vaginal atrophy and guess what? - for the last x years I've been using oestrogen pessaries which help no end.

I can't say any of this ever had or now has any effect one way or the other on my BG ..........
 
That study was done in 2003 Alan.
Treatment changes over the years and can be refined to your own personal needs.
A simple blood test can determin as to whether you need HRT or not.
Using alternatives have been proven not to work so mind you don't waste your money Cath.
Invest in a fan and some sf ice pops and think of all the heating costs you will save on.

Menapause does mess with diabetes quite a bit and the HRT seems to stop the wayward control.
 
Yes Alan, when I was diagnosed I was told by a nurse that I had to stop taking the birth control pill. 15 months married, mortgaged up to the eyeballs as per the norm, I earned more than my husband - WHA-A-A-T????

Why?

Because it was thought in some quarters that taking the pill could increase the chance of a person getting Diabetes.

So (but knowing the answer already) are you telling me that if I stop, I won't have Diabetes any more, then?

Oh no, it's just that some women prefer to stop taking it!

But that is not what you said, is it? - you said I'd have to stop taking it - as if I had no choice!

So - (incredulous tone) are you actually refusing to stop taking it, then?

Too right I am!

Well ! she said, standing up and pushing her chair back. I shall just have to tell the Professor this - and see what he says!

Fine - you can tell who the hell you like! (bearing in mind I hadn't a clue who she was talking about)

The Professor came to see me. He came down the ward at speed with his entourage and stopped just before my bed and looked round, as if he was searching for someone. Then he boomed, 'I'm looking for a young woman with a mind of her own - anyone know where she is?'

He agreed with me, shutting the stable door after the horse had bolted even if it was 100% true, which nobody was sure about anyway. Also said that nursie wasn't supposed to say that, was supposed to advise people that there had been this research and they might like to bear that in mind. Or not ....... and answer questions like 'Will it make my diabetes worse?' to which the answer was a resounding No.

If the people who did the research ever had to suffer the alternatives to not taking the drugs they are dissing (or suffer some of the side effects of the drugs they are telling us are wonderful !) then they would change all their ruddy tunes ......
 
The reason they took you off HRT after 10 years is that it doubles the risk of you getting breast cancer.

What has medical research found out about the risks and benefits of hormone use after menopause?

The most comprehensive evidence about the risks and benefits of taking hormones after menopause to prevent disease comes from the Women?s Health Initiative (WHI) Hormone Program, which was sponsored by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) and the National Cancer Institute (NCI), parts of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This research program examined the effects of menopausal hormones on women?s health. The WHI Hormone Program involved two studies?the use of estrogen plus progestin for women with a uterus (the Estrogen-plus-Progestin Study), and the use of estrogen alone for women without a uterus (the Estrogen-Alone Study). In both hormone therapy studies, women were randomly assigned to receive either the hormone medication being studied or the placebo.

The WHI Estrogen-plus-Progestin Study was stopped in July 2002, when investigators reported that the overall risks of estrogen plus progestin, specifically Prempro?, outweighed the benefits (1). The researchers found that use of this estrogen-plus-progestin pill increased the risk of breast cancer, heart disease, stroke, blood clots, and urinary incontinence. However, the risk of colorectal cancer and hip fractures was lower among women using estrogen plus progestin than among those taking the placebo (1). In addition, the WHI Memory Study showed that estrogen plus progestin doubled the risk for developing dementia (a decline in mental ability in which the patient can no longer function independently on a day-to-day basis) in postmenopausal women age 65 and older. The risk increased for all types of dementia, including Alzheimer?s disease (2).

The WHI Estrogen-Alone Study, which involved Premarin?, was stopped in February 2004, when the researchers concluded that estrogen alone increased the risk of stroke and blood clots. In contrast with the WHI Estrogen-plus-Progestin Study, the risk of breast cancer was decreased in women using estrogen alone compared with those taking the placebo (see Question 5). Use of estrogen alone did not increase or decrease the risk of colorectal cancer (3). Similar to the results seen in the Estrogen-plus-Progestin Study, women using estrogen alone had an increased risk of urinary incontinence and a decreased risk of hip fractures.

Another large epidemiologic study, the Million Women Study, enrolled 1.3 million women in the United Kingdom. This study evaluated health outcomes in women using and not using menopausal hormones. Several analyses have been published to date, and many more are expected in the future (4, 5, 6).

How does menopausal hormone use affect breast cancer risk and survival?

The WHI Estrogen-plus-Progestin Study concluded that estrogen plus progestin increases the risk of invasive breast cancer. After 5 years of follow-up, women taking these hormones had a 24 percent increase in breast cancer risk compared with women taking the placebo. The increase amounted to an additional 8 cases of breast cancer for every 10,000 women taking estrogen plus progestin for 1 year compared with 10,000 women taking the placebo (7).

A detailed analysis of data from the WHI Estrogen-plus-Progestin Study showed that, among women taking estrogen plus progestin, the breast cancers were slightly larger and diagnosed at more advanced stages compared with breast cancers in women taking the placebo. Among women taking estrogen plus progestin, 25.4 percent of the cancers had spread outside the breast to nearby organs or lymph nodes compared with 16.0 percent among nonusers. Women taking estrogen plus progestin also had more abnormal mammograms (breast x-rays that require additional evaluation) than the women taking the placebo (7).

The WHI Estrogen-Alone Study concluded that taking estrogen did not increase the risk of breast cancer in women with a prior hysterectomy, at least for the 7 years of follow-up in the study. Further analysis of data from the study indicated a 20 percent decrease in risk of breast cancer in women taking estrogen alone, although this decrease was seen mainly in the occurrence of early-stage breast cancer and ductal breast cancer (a specific type that begins in the lining of the milk ducts in the breast) (8). The observed reduction amounted to 6 fewer cases of breast cancer for every 10,000 women taking estrogen for 1 year compared with 10,000 nonusers, but this lower incidence was not statistically significant; i.e., the lower incidence could have arisen by chance rather than being related to estrogen-alone use (8). The Estrogen-Alone Study also showed a substantial increase in the frequency of abnormal mammograms (8).

A comprehensive review of data from 51 epidemiological (population) studies published in the 1980s and 1990s found a statistically significant increase in breast cancer risk among current or recent users of any hormone replacement therapy compared with the risk among nonusers. Most women in the analysis (88 percent) had used estrogen alone, and data for estrogen-plus-progestin users was not analyzed separately. Analysis of the pooled data also showed that the risk of breast cancer increased with increasing duration of hormone use, and this effect was more prominent in women with low body weight or a low body mass index. However, breast cancers in hormone users were less likely to have spread to other parts of the body compared with the breast cancers in nonusers. The increase in breast cancer risk largely, if not completely, disappeared about 5 years after cessation of hormone use (9).

As part of the Million Women Study, researchers examined six types of breast cancer among users and nonusers of menopausal hormones. The results showed that the effects of hormone use varied among breast cancer types. Overall, breast cancer risk was significantly increased among current users, although the risk was lower among women with higher body mass index (5).

From National Cancer Institute

My partner is waiting for the test results to come back to see if she is menopausal. After the Dr took the blood he said he would prescribe her HRT there and then, but only for 5 years due to the reasons above. She declined as she wanted to find out more about HRT, and also wait for the results. She has decided to not to have HRT as her mum and aunt both had breast cancer and died, so she is susceptible to it, so she doesn't want to take anything that might encourage any breast cancer to grow. Also a friend's mum had ovarian cancer, then she got breast cancer which spread to her bones and brain and also sent clots to her leg so that turned gangrenous, she died 2 days later, and she was also taking HRT.
 
Well yes there has always been a link between breast cancer and such things. I don't disagree with that (I mean I haven't ever heard that it had been (properly) refuted) and I can understand under the circs why a person would choose not to have HRT.

You just have to weigh up the pros and cons the same as you do with any drug, don't you?
 
Thanks for responses ... I continue to do research and going to see if I can get referred to Menopause Clinic to get more information
 
Thanks for responses ... I continue to do research and going to see if I can get referred to Menopause Clinic to get more information

Hope you can get a prompt referral 🙂 Please let us know if you are given some good information as it will be useful to members in the future.
 
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