eggs good or bad

[shelley25]

hi, just come back from first appointment with nurse since diagnosis 2 weeks ago, i've been following a low carb diet, i thought eggs where ok to eat with type 2, but the nurse said it could raise cholesterol, i'm confused, any advice

 

[Drummer]

hi, just come back from first appointment with nurse since diagnosis 2 weeks ago, i've been following a low carb diet, i thought eggs where ok to eat with type 2, but the nurse said it could raise cholesterol, i'm confused, any advice

I eat all the eggs I like and my cholesterol is lower than when I was eating low fat everything.

Someone checked the cholesterol from food link and found that the 'marked' eggs - the hens were fed something which could be detected - did not result in marked cholesterol in the blood, which rather ruined the plan to find out how many eggs were 'safe' to eat.
I'm afraid I did not make a note of the source - I suspect I was laughing too much....

 

[shelley25]

I eat all the eggs I like and my cholesterol is lower than when I was eating low fat everything.

Someone checked the cholesterol from food link and found that the 'marked' eggs - the hens were fed something which could be detected - did not result in marked cholesterol in the blood, which rather ruined the plan to find out how many eggs were 'safe' to eat.
I'm afraid I did not make a note of the source - I suspect I was laughing too much....

thanks, i find so much conflicting info it's very confusing, hopefully the education program i've been referred to will help or make it even more confusing, lol

 

[Leadinglights]

Eggs are a good versatile low carb food and form part of the dietary regime of many following a low carb diet (unless vegan)
You will continue to find conflicting views as everybody is different in their tolerance of carbohydrates and that depends on their own body and gut biome and therefore one size does not fit all and you have to find what suits you.
Many determine how much and what type of carbohydrate they can tolerate by establishing a testing regime using a home blood glucose monitor, testing before they eat and after 2 hours when they will be looking for and aiming at no more than a 2-3mmol/l increase from their meal, if they do then the meal is too carb heavy.
It both establishes what you can safely eat and what foods are best avoided or only had in small portions.
This link gives good information and guidance, it is a program developed by a GP practice as they found the standard NHS advice did not work for their patients. https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/

 

[Dragonheart]

hi, just come back from first appointment with nurse since diagnosis 2 weeks ago, i've been following a low carb diet, i thought eggs where ok to eat with type 2, but the nurse said it could raise cholesterol, i'm confused, any advice

Omg that nurse is so outdated. The myths about eggs and cholesterol were disproved years ago. It would make me doubt anything else she said and I’d have no faith in her advice going forward. That’s not to say she’d be wrong about everything but honestly how would a patient know which was rubbish and which was right.

 

[s'nic]

Omg that nurse is so outdated. The myths about eggs and cholesterol were disproved years ago. It would make me doubt anything else she said and I’d have no faith in her advice going forward.

This is exactly what I thought.
If advice seems conflicting then just do a quick web search to see if you can quickly confirm one.
If your web browser offers the option I'd set it to search over 4 years or so for such queries because medical opinion changes over the years.

My friend always told me coffee was bad for you (that was the view at the time). At the time I told her it's ok, one day they will change their minds. And they did! These days coffee in moderation can give health benefits for some conditions 😎

 

[Leadinglights]

This sounds like a good reason for eating eggs.

Eggs have a number of minerals, such as iron, calcium, phosphorus, zinc and folate. However, the content of vitamins and minerals is not evenly distributed. Egg yolks have more nutrients than egg whites. Such as good cholesterol, vitamins B6, B12, A, D, E, and K. In addition, it also contains calcium, magnesium, iron, and selenium. The carotenoid content in egg yolks plays an important role in protecting the eyes from free radicals that cause retinal damage. Whereas egg whites contain all the protein in the egg. Eating whole eggs allows you to get all the vitamins, minerals and protein which are needed for the body.

Anybody remember the boiled egg diet of many years ago?

 

[shelley25]

This sounds like a good reason for eating eggs.

Eggs have a number of minerals, such as iron, calcium, phosphorus, zinc and folate. However, the content of vitamins and minerals is not evenly distributed. Egg yolks have more nutrients than egg whites. Such as good cholesterol, vitamins B6, B12, A, D, E, and K. In addition, it also contains calcium, magnesium, iron, and selenium. The carotenoid content in egg yolks plays an important role in protecting the eyes from free radicals that cause retinal damage. Whereas egg whites contain all the protein in the egg. Eating whole eggs allows you to get all the vitamins, minerals and protein which are needed for the body.

Anybody remember the boiled egg diet of many years ago?

thanks, i will continue with eggs

 

[Deb_l]

Omg that nurse is so outdated. The myths about eggs and cholesterol were disproved years ago. It would make me doubt anything else she said and I’d have no faith in her advice going forward. That’s not to say she’d be wrong about everything but honestly how would a patient know which was rubbish and which was right.

This ^^

Eggs raising cholesterol is very outdated advice unless you have very specific cholesterol intolerance to a certain protein and I can’t for the life of me remember what it’s called but it’s rare.

Eggs are good 🙂

 

[rebrascora]

Another vote for eggs being good and that your nurse's advice is dated. Sadly all too common within the NHS.

 

[nonethewiser]

Easily get through dozen eggs a week & have always had good cholesterol levels, love eggs whichever way they are cooked.

 

[notmez]

another with the same answer.
when I was first told (2010) I had very high cholesterol I was told not to eat eggs -or limit to 1 per week-
by 2015 they had told me eggs were fine but I never really had many anyway

now I'm at around 6 eggs in 7/8 days.
since getting type 2 and reducing some other food (crisps excess bread and carbs) my cholesterol has lowered

only real difference eggs made for me is that i snack less after lunch if i include an egg or 2 at lunch, recently its been something like a brown wrap with scrambled eggs + veg, salad leaves and some type of sauce.

 

[Docb]

Just made some mayonnaise for a batch of coleslaw - totally different league to the commercial stuff and no emulsifiers, fillers or carbs of any significance in sight.

Eat lots of eggs, and it might have something to do with my son having a few hens. I know the eggs are fresh, the living conditions of the hens and what they are fed with.

 

[nonethewiser]

Just made some mayonnaise for a batch of coleslaw - totally different league to the commercial stuff and no emulsifiers, fillers or carbs of any significance in sight.

Care to share method involved @Docb

 

[Docb]

Care to share method involved @Docb

Here goes...

First the mayonnaise.

Into a bowl put one egg yolk, a couple of teaspoons of prepared mustard (dijon or whole grain) and juice from half a lemon. Whisk this up for 15 seconds or so until it is well combined. You can use a wire whisk or a rotary whisk but I have a whisk attachment for my stick blender which I find works well and does not leave aching arms.

Next you need about 170 cc or so of a light vegetable oil in a jug. Now the bit that needs a bit of faith (and practice). Dribble a tiny amount of oil into the egg, get whisking and you will see a runny emulsion begin to form. Keep adding and whisking the oil. Start with small amounts oil but as things go on you can increase the rate at which the oil is added. Will take a couple of minutes of whisking before all the oil is added. Keep whisking and if all goes well (the trick is not to add the oil too quickly) the emulsion will thicken to something like the consistency of shop bought mayo but with a colour and taste unlike anything you will find in a bottle.

You can finish with a few cc of some highly flavoured oil like olive oil as a variant or a smidgin of salt and freshly ground pepper as another variant. Or chopped herbs, or crushed garlic, or whatever you think might be interesting. If you haven't got a lemon handy you can add a tablespoonful of your favourite vinegar at the start instead of the lemon juice.

The coleslaw.

Shred up some cabbage (red or white), grate some carrot and finely dice up some onion. Proportions your choice and fineness depends on your patience and knife skills! Put in whatever container you are going to store it in, stir in the mayo and enjoy.

Overall

Like most of these things it looks a bit daunting but is dead easy once you get the hang of it and you can really impress the neighbours. The big thing that can go wrong is that the emulsion will "split" where some of the oil separates out and you get two layers. Most likely to happen if you add the oil too quickly. Not happened to me yet but I believe you can recover it by taking another egg yolk, whisk it up then very slowly add the split mixture whilst whisking like billy-o.

You can use the whole egg (minus shell) but it might split and the mayo will end up a bit runnier than the egg yolk version.

PS.... you can knock out a quick mayo this way (takes less than 5 minutes when you have got in a bit of experience) and go Belgian next time you have fish and chips.

PPS Get whisking!!

 

[Pam123]

another egg person i have 2 most days scrambled with cheese and 2 slices of Nimble toasted
The mind boggles with the things they tell you.

 

[snowball12]

hi, just come back from first appointment with nurse since diagnosis 2 weeks ago, i've been following a low carb diet, i thought eggs where ok to eat with type 2, but the nurse said it could raise cholesterol, i'm confused, any advice

Nurse needs retraining. Eggs are fine, I eat a dozen a week. My cholesterol is just fine

 

[Martin.A]

hi, just come back from first appointment with nurse since diagnosis 2 weeks ago, i've been following a low carb diet, i thought eggs where ok to eat with type 2, but the nurse said it could raise cholesterol, i'm confused, any advice

According to the BHF, since about 2000 the Department of Health changed it's advice on eggs and there is now no recommended limit on how many eggs people should eat, as long as you eat a varied diet, so the nurse really does need to get up to date.

 

[snowball12]

According to the BHF, since about 2000 the Department of Health changed it's advice on eggs and there is now no recommended limit on how many eggs people should eat, as long as you eat a varied diet, so the nurse really does need to get up to date.

My GP also needs retraining. He looked at me like I was mad when I told him I was following a low carb diet

 

[manji]

According to the BHF, since about 2000 the Department of Health changed it's advice on eggs and there is now no recommended limit on how many eggs people should eat, as long as you eat a varied diet, so the nurse really does need to get up to date.

My GP also needs retraining. He looked at me like I was mad when I told him I was following a low carb diet

That’s my issue.Im a newb I mentioned the low carb advice on here . It has been met with opposition from the NHS “ diabetes “ nurse. I do keep mentioning it but I think it’s relevant when she phoned this morning and only because I phoned surgery up and said I had no clue and was “ distressed “ . In the end I said to her I have little faith in NHS advice. Here we go again…..was told I wasn’t having a stroke. Treated 13 hours later then when I returned home ALL the advice I received from the nurses was incorrect.
She said she understood my lack of trust