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Diabetes, Scuba diving and Omnipods

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Kedi

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I haven't been on here for a while, but calling all Diabetic Scuba divers - is anyone diving with an Omnipod or have any experience of diving with one?
I currently dive happily with my Freestyle Libre if anyone has any queries about that.
Many thanks
 
Just had a look, it's waterproof up to 7.6m for 60mins, omnipod user but don't scuba dive.
 
Good luck with it if you give it a go @Kedi

Have you asked Omnipod (or your rep if you have their contact details) for any hints and tips?

I suggest makng sure you have a back-up delivery method, eg a pen / syringe and vial available!
 
Great question @Kedi looks like I am not going to get the pump now this year, so no worries about that if I have a go at it. Good to know about the libre thanks!
 
I haven't been on here for a while, but calling all Diabetic Scuba divers - is anyone diving with an Omnipod or have any experience of diving with one?
I currently dive happily with my Freestyle Libre if anyone has any queries about that.
Many thanks
Just seen this. I did wonder about the Libre when diving. Would love to know if it’s ok for diving
 
Just seen this. I did wonder about the Libre when diving. Would love to know if it’s ok for diving
Hi,
Yes, the Libre is great for diving. When I was using finger prick testing I was always thinking "I hope I'll be okay on this dive" and I was always conscious of delaying the dive. With the Libre, I can now say - I know I'll be okay on this dive.
I don't cover mine, but use a Skin Tac wipe on my skin before putting on my Libre and they've always stayed on. I make sure it's in a place where it can't get pulled off by my wet suit.
I put my phone with the Libre link app either in a dry bag or somewhere quick and accessible on the boat.
I've been down to 30 metres and checked my blood sugar with the Libre and finger prick immediately afterwards and they're almost identical. Libre's will even scan through a soaking wet wet suit!
I've chatted with some other diabetic divers on here who have had great results with the Libre.
Let me know how you get on and any other questions - let me know
 
Hi,
Yes, the Libre is great for diving. When I was using finger prick testing I was always thinking "I hope I'll be okay on this dive" and I was always conscious of delaying the dive. With the Libre, I can now say - I know I'll be okay on this dive.
I don't cover mine, but use a Skin Tac wipe on my skin before putting on my Libre and they've always stayed on. I make sure it's in a place where it can't get pulled off by my wet suit.
I put my phone with the Libre link app either in a dry bag or somewhere quick and accessible on the boat.
I've been down to 30 metres and checked my blood sugar with the Libre and finger prick immediately afterwards and they're almost identical. Libre's will even scan through a soaking wet wet suit!
I've chatted with some other diabetic divers on here who have had great results with the Libre.
Let me know how you get on and any other questions - let me know
Brill, thanks so much for replying. I had to look up what skin tac is I only dive in warmer climes so will probably be wearing a shortie rather than a full wetsuit. It’s nice to hear from a diabetic diver as I had been a bit anxious about whether I’d be able to carry on, and it’s always been part of our holiday. Just need to start a weights program to build up my legs as I had some wastage before being diagnosed. I’m only tiny and in my late 50s, and it’s a struggle carry those tanks.
 
Hi again,
Like you, I am strictly a warm water diver.
If it's any consolation, I'm 65 and learnt to dive at 55. I recently buddied a 70 year old lady who had just qualified.
I say so long as I can get up a dive ladder with a tank on my back - I'll keep going. I did struggle getting my bum up to the side of the boat for a backward roll into the water. So it's off to the gym for me too to get some strength in my legs!
 
Hi again,
Like you, I am strictly a warm water diver.
If it's any consolation, I'm 65 and learnt to dive at 55. I recently buddied a 70 year old lady who had just qualified.
I say so long as I can get up a dive ladder with a tank on my back - I'll keep going. I did struggle getting my bum up to the side of the boat for a backward roll into the water. So it's off to the gym for me too to get some strength in my legs!
Yeah I’m only 4ft 10. I take off my tank before climbing the ladder now. the Dive schools usually suggest it. I didn’t learn to dive until I was 50. I had always yearned to be Jacques Cousteau. We were going to Australia and I was determined to dive the Great Barrier Reef. So we did the course and the first 2 training dives in the UK - Yuk and then finished it in Cairns
 
Regarding Scuba diving with Omnipod's:
I recently met a Type 1 Diabetic who did a Try-dive with an Omnipod in place. Apparently the alarms squealed all the way down to the bottom!
Question answered ☺️
 
Hello @Kedi and @louisew,
I can't answer your query about scuba and insulin pumps. My scuba days predate my diabetes; but like yourselves I came to scuba from a try dive given to me for my 50th birthday and never looked back (but plenty of looking around as well as up and down!) I became so enthusiastic that I progressed to become a BSAC Advanced Diver and BSAC Dive Instructor after my first 100 dives. But I was lucky to be living in Gibraltar and then Naples with plenty of sea, wrecks and archaeology to choose for dive sites.

I'm interested to know how you get on with your annual dive medicals (particularly @Kedi, as a T1). Shortly after my total pancreatectomy I was told that I'd never pass a medical since the risk of an unforeseen hypo would put not just myself, but any dive buddy, at risk. The underlying logic was that the depth, temp change and extra exertion were significant possible contributors to hypos. I didn't challenge that at the time, but I can see there is a fair amount of logic to that explanation. It was also said many dive centres would be very hesitant about allowing me to dive with them.

@louisew, I was lucky enough to dive in the bay of Napoli from the same boat & club with a nimble but physically weak 80yr old man. His agility and dive experience were a delight to observe. He had in his surface kitbag a 2metre rope with a carabiniere on each end. He fixed one end onto the boat and left the other end trailing over the side and as he arrived back at the surface he would clip his gear onto this rope, unbuckle and climb back on board with his kit safely attached to the boat but still in the water. Once on board he would recover his kit (in practice others would invariably do that for him) and enjoy the after dive wind down etc. He also had a pony of high O2 content which he would leave attached to his rope that was then available to him, or any one else, if some extra deco was needed before leaving the water. It was all simple, yet obvious and the rest of us were in awe of his resilience, forethought and organisation. He also felt the cold at depth and would surface fairly quickly, but then do most of his deco just at a nominal depth - where it was a lot warmer. He demonstrated that scuba diving doesn't have to be so difficult even when age is producing challenges.
 
Hi @Proud to be erratic, I'm assuming you've read the info on diving with diabetes articles supplied by the ukdmc? https//:www.ukdmc.org/medical-conditions/diabetes-mellitus? They also have the forms on there which you and your GP complete every year then post them off to Dr Chris Edge.
I've been diving for 10 years with T1 and its certainly do-able if you know what you're doing. There's a few of us on this forum. The Libre's make it so much easier. Good luck!
 
Hi @Proud to be erratic, I'm assuming you've read the info on diving with diabetes articles supplied by the ukdmc? https//:www.ukdmc.org/medical-conditions/diabetes-mellitus? They also have the forms on there which you and your GP complete every year then post them off to Dr Chris Edge.
I've been diving for 10 years with T1 and its certainly do-able if you know what you're doing. There's a few of us on this forum. The Libre's make it so much easier. Good luck!
Hi, interesting information. Thankyou. I am PADI advanced and do not dive in the UK, only abroad apart from refresher courses in swimming pools. Is this accepted by PADI internationally. I haven’t dived since being diagnosed
 
Hi Louisew, when you send Dr Edge your diabetes and diving forms, he emails you back a medical form C -Fitness to Dive with Diabetes form. I've never been refused by any dive shop overseas whether Padi, SSi or Bsac. Like you, I don't dive in UK anymore. I used to email dive shops first to check they're okay with me diving with them, but so long as you have that form from Dr Edge, they are happy. I always take a couple of copies with me. I've noticed some dive shops want the DAN forms also, so I ask my GP to sign that at the same time as completing my forms.
Before each dive, I give the dive leader the diabetes 'talk' as concisely as I can. I explain about exercise, insulin and hypo's. The L-sign with your hand in front of your face is the universal sign for a hypo when diving. I keep a tube of Glucogel (available on prescription or pharmacies) in my Bcd pocket in case of hypos. I show them where that is, how to use it and to do a controlled buoyant lift up to the surface, deploy a dsmb should I do the L- sign (which I've never had to do).
Sadly, I often find dive leaders are too distracted about the dive to take my diabetes seriously enough. That's where the Libre's give you confidence. Some dive leaders however, have been well-briefed by diabetics previously and have been more aware and supportive.
Now I've got my Libre, I've notice how dehydrated you get after a dive particularly in hot climates, which puts my blood sugar up. So I try and drink plenty of water.
There's quite a bit of info on the internet about diving and diabetes. Good luck!
 
Hi Louisew, when you send Dr Edge your diabetes and diving forms, he emails you back a medical form C -Fitness to Dive with Diabetes form. I've never been refused by any dive shop overseas whether Padi, SSi or Bsac. Like you, I don't dive in UK anymore. I used to email dive shops first to check they're okay with me diving with them, but so long as you have that form from Dr Edge, they are happy. I always take a couple of copies with me. I've noticed some dive shops want the DAN forms also, so I ask my GP to sign that at the same time as completing my forms.
Before each dive, I give the dive leader the diabetes 'talk' as concisely as I can. I explain about exercise, insulin and hypo's. The L-sign with your hand in front of your face is the universal sign for a hypo when diving. I keep a tube of Glucogel (available on prescription or pharmacies) in my Bcd pocket in case of hypos. I show them where that is, how to use it and to do a controlled buoyant lift up to the surface, deploy a dsmb should I do the L- sign (which I've never had to do).
Sadly, I often find dive leaders are too distracted about the dive to take my diabetes seriously enough. That's where the Libre's give you confidence. Some dive leaders however, have been well-briefed by diabetics previously and have been more aware and supportive.
Now I've got my Libre, I've notice how dehydrated you get after a dive particularly in hot climates, which puts my blood sugar up. So I try and drink plenty of water.
There's quite a bit of info on the internet about diving and diabetes. Good luck!
Thank you so much for taking the time to give such a detailed response. I only do a few recreational dives on holiday, so I’ve never taken out separate DAN insurance. My insurance always covers diving up to 30m although we never dive that deep, usually up to 25. However I may consider that now. I’ll be doing a refresher before I go, so that may give a small indicator of how diving affects my blood sugar. Great advice about keeping treatment in BCD. I always buddy up with my husband or daughter(who is a a HSE professional diver)
so they will also know about where I will keep my treatment. Although not in the same league as you, we are on around 60 dives and have done some quite challenging dives, so are pretty good and confident divers now. I am type 2 on insulin but very well controlled. Being fairly newly diagnosed (9 months), it’s taken a while to get over my anxiety about it. But I’m pretty good about knowing when to up my carbs
Anyway, thanks once again
 
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