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Change 4 Life - Sugar Smart

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Sally71

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My daughter has brought home one of those yellow "Change 4 Life" packs which is called "Let's Get Sugar Smart" which makes for quite amusing reading! Basically trying to tell you to swap all obviously sugary food and drinks for less sugary alternatives. Which does make sense, and for most people is probably good advice; but knowing what we know there are some dodgy claims in there!

E.g. You should swap a cake (looks like chocolate chip muffin, but it's only a cartoon drawing with no indication of size, and apparently contains the equivalent of 5 lumps of sugar) for "fruit, cut up veg, plain rice cakes, fruited teacake, toast or bagel". Erm, fruited teacake?! Can't imagine there would be very much less carbs in that!

Also, you should swap a 30g bowl of sugary cereal (2lumps) for plain cereal e.g. Porridge, plain wholewheat biscuit cereal or plain shredded whole grain. Well that makes some sense, but what constitutes a "sugary" cereal? My daughter has been eating plain Rice Krispies for the last few days, which aren't obviously sugary (and no, we don t add any!) and now we've got the Libre we can see that they have been causing massive spikes up to 15 which then take most of the morning to come back down again! She has switched to mini Weetabix this morning so it will be interesting to see what they do. She does like plain porridge too, and I find that a right pain to bolus for, we have to extend it by at least an hour and a half in order to avoid hypos, so can't wait for her to have that again now we can really see what's going on between meals!

What also caught my eye was the statement " you don't need to worry about the sugar in plain milk, plain yogurts and whole fruit and veg as this isn't added sugar." Bah - but it's still sugar!! As far as your body is concerned there is no difference! OK so eating an apple is better than eating a cake, but if you are worried about your total daily intake then you still need to include fruit, surely. Things like raisins are little sugar bombs!

And of course it completely fails to point out that ALL carbs turn to sugar in your body and therefore anything bread/fruit/cereal based needs to be treated with caution if you are really worried about it.

It does make some useful points about why too much sugar is bad for you, and that fruit juices contain loads of sugar and should be limited to 150ml a day and that it's better to eat whole fruit than drink the juice, so I suppose as a starting point for the uninitiated it isn't bad. Perhaps I'm being just a tad too pedantic... Daughter got very cross though, and said when she's old enough she wants to speak to someone about it! 😱 😛
 
The no added sugar claim also gets to me and I have lost count of the number of times I have told people it means there is sugar in it, no more has been put in. Sugar occurs naturally in some foods like fruit, which is why fruit juice can be used to treat hypos.

I think part of it is we are being encouraged to look at what we eat and how we eat it. One of the reasons we pick up on these things here is because we have a good collective knowledge.
 
Yet again the UK is falling into the trap of the 'blame one ingredient' mindset. Absolutely nuts.

The '50% less sugar added into this pot of highly refined carbohydrate sludge' stickers are only going to get bigger I'm afraid.
 
Yes apparently you should also replace a "chilled dessert" (plastic pot of nondescript brown stuff) with a "low fat, lower sugar yogurt" - does such a thing exist?! Low-fat items usually have more carbs!
 
Yes they do exist, but not under the low fat label. You have to look for the Very low fat ones which arent higher in carbs-pretty much the same as the plain yoghurts. I eat Weightwatchers yoghurts - low fat and low sugar, about 7-8g cho per pot. 🙂
 
Skyr - I repeat SKYR!! low carb, low sugar, high taste! Oh and low calorie as well 😎
 
Skyr - I repeat SKYR!! low carb, low sugar, high taste! Oh and low calorie as well 😎

I was introduced to Skyr on a trip to Iceland last year - it is absolutely delicious 🙂
 
Beyond delicious if you ask me!! Have mine with berries and always pick out the fruit so I can just have the deliciousness that is Skyr 😳
 
The 'Change4life' stuff is produced by people who in general haven't a clue about diet. Sad that we fund this stuff thru our taxes. Also have a look at the British Dietetic Association website Food Factsheets 🙂
 
I have recently been given three tubs of Pot Noodles, by someone who knows I'm diabetic and thus shouldn't be touching such rubbish with a ten-foot pole. :confused: The nutrition panel says that each tub contains 48g carbs -- IIRC that's equivalent to 12 lumps/teaspoons of sugar. 😱 I would surely be better off chugging a can of full-sugar Coke; that's only 36 carbs. 🙄
 
You'd be better off with a doughnut. Even they are lower carb than a pot noodle.
 
I agree with the concept that white carb is just as bad for you as sugar. But, I think the point about being urged to cut down on sugar is more complicated. For a start, I find it's so much more difficult to eat a small portion. (I do, now, because of the insulin implications,) But I certainly have a 'pudding stomach' I can definitely not be feeling particularly hungry after my first course, but if someone wafts profiteroles in front of me, I'm up for it. Whereas if someone wafted a nice plate of pasta, even with a delicious sauce, I'd say, no thanks, I'm full. So from the point of view of getting the nation to cut their calorie intake, it may have an impact.
 
My tummy is like yours. Some of us have ALWAYS maintained that a LOT of ladies have an entirely separate stomach for such things - and happening to be diabetic has nowt to do with it !
 
The big gripe for me is that people commonly seem to believe that fruit sugar is magical and not like 'sugar sugar'.

The worst part is, they're actually right...but not for the reason they think.

If I recall correctly, fruit has two sugars in it, glucose and fructose, in ratios that vary between different types of fruit.

Fructose is indeed magical because your body doesn't metabolise it like other sugars. Instead of it going into your blood as blood sugar...it gets turned into fat first and then needs to be remetabolised.

In other words, whenever you eat fructose, you are literally adding a few milligrams of fat to your existing body fat (primarily around the liver too, if memory serves correctly). If you want to trace obesity in society, look at when in the US they started sweetening products with high fructose corn syrup rather than sugar.

And yet apparently, fruit sugar is wonderful and healthy...
 
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